Originally Posted by notek
You want too much
You have to sacrifice something, it can't be cheap, good and easy to install.
Wink is cheap, but terribly unreliable, and has a slow and buggy app.
Insteon is better, but the app does not show actual device and scene status. Scenes are better than wink's but not as good as Lutron's.
Lutron, especially RA2, is better at everything, but it is certainly isn't cheap.
I don't think I am. When I looked into this a couple of years ago I was certain I would have to go with Control4 or similar and get a professionally installed hub, costing a couple of thousand before I even got to the devices (which my other half would not approve of...
), however with the selection of new, much cheaper hubs around now I don't think that is necessary for my needs, if I'm willing to sacrifice a little (such as having a separate control for the Home theatre.)
I have heard some bad things about Wink and its reliability. I'm starting to move towards the Smartthings hub, especially if the V2 hub is out when I start the install because much of the work will be transferred to the hub rather than the cloud.
I do like Lutron but from what I gather it only works with their own kit, which doesn't cover much of what I want to do. Will the RA2 allow non Lutron kit to be paired?
Unfortunately I think the Hue is not a viable option as I'm looking at recessed lights in my basement, which would mean i'd probably have to get 20+ of them!
Originally Posted by stamina1914
Hey I just started looking into this myself and I think the 3 biggest questions you need to ask yourself before you go any further are
A) How much of a hands on experience do you want, do you want to do some work, no work, or all the work yourself?
B) The you want to control everything form one app or from several different app.
C) How wired is your house, are you in a position where you can wire your house for faster and better service or are you going to rely on wifi connections to automate your house.
Once you figure out these questions, then you can begin your search Young Grasshopper.
They are the difficult questions.
I'll answer them for myself at least, it's something I've been thinking about a fair amount since I started looking.
A) I'm a fairly hands on competent person that knows some basic code, however I don't want to be spending ages troubleshooting why something won't work and having to delve into the code to do so. Physically I will (with the occasional bit of family help) be doing all the renovation work, switch/electronics installation.
B) Ideally everything from one App, however there is some leeway on that.
Ideally I'd like to be able to control everything in the Rec Room with one control, which I believe I can do with the Harmony connected to another hub. I think I should be able to use the IR to turn on TV/Projector and any motorised screen and then the hub integration to control the lights. The question I have with that is whether I can control a motorised shade, which would depend on the system I use. Alternatively there may be a IR controlled shade I can control directly from the Harmony remote - do these exist?
On the other hand I'm not worried about controlling the rest of the house with the Harmony, but I would rather do that with a single App, which I believe is easily doable by selecting the right equipment to pair with whichever hub I decide (except Lutron, which doesn't appear to support devices that do many of the things I want to do).
That should mean if i'm in the den I can control the lights with the Harmony or App and the rest of the house can be controlled by the App.
C) The basement is stripped at the moment so I have a blank slate. I plan on cabling it full of Cat 6 and speaker cable so there are no issues with accessibility, adding another cable or two won't be an issue. Most of the systems rely on wireless now as far as I know anyway?
What system are you looking at at the moment?
As I mentioned earlier I'm erring towards Smartthings, especially with the V2 of the hub. The lack of Lutron compatibility is not a killer, there are plenty of other just as capable dimmers (just not as pretty..) and it appears there are easy workaround s to connect Somfy shades (for blackout) to the hub. It integrates well with Harmony Home and there are also connections for garage door openers and plenty of security options. It doesn't seem to play nice with nest but does with Honeywell so not the end of the world.