Originally Posted by ezlotogura
Their audio option is just 1 option, Bose, and its limited to 8 streaming options vs 30+ on Sonos - and I also do not see how you would easily use the Bose products in a matrix set up like you can with a few sonos connects and then a matrix switch and amps. How does Smart Things handle multi video distribution? Just curious how you handle a driveway gate in Smart Things or how you handle pool/Jacuzzi/steam room operation in Smart Things? How does these things all tie in to using 1 app to control everything so if you want to turn on the pool or turn on music or do something to lights you just pull up the Smart Things app and its all there on one screen? Maybe these things are possible on Smart Things for the average home owner to set up.
If you are a certified Crestron tech I would like to think you know the difference between C4/Crestron/Savant, etc vs Smart Things. And if you think Smart Things is just as good as Crestron then I am also hoping you are finding another career because Crestron will be dead shortly by Samsung selling $150 Smart Things hubs.
This isnt an attack, its just trying to refute the original point the original poster made that "c4 sucks" and the reasons why people agree are false. It does not suck because you need a dealer. That just means it is not the right system for you. I am adding these responses to the forum so if someone in 2 weeks or 2 months or 2 years stumbles on this thread they are properly informed, that's all.
I have Control4 and I've recommended C4 and non C4 (smartthings type set ups) to family and friends - different strokes for different folks.
I'm not replying to bash Control4. I like what Control4 does and it is a fine system. Whether you use Control4 or SmartThings, they're all connected home implementations, as the CEO of Control4 said in an interview several months ago. I just want to address a few of the things you mentioned in your post so that users who come here looking for info have a fuller picture.
GE/Jasco has a Z-wave product they introduced earlier this year that can control pools and gates. I don't know if that product has been tested with SmartThings, but it does work with the Z-wave hub that I use.
Alarm.com integrates with Nuvo for multiroom audio and Alarm.com is a Z-wave based system in which you can add your own devices after the alarm company installs the system. An Alarm.com connected home could do the same thing that you do in your system in one app. Alarm.com has door locks, thermostats, lighting control, motion sensors, garage door control, cameras, music control, blinds/shading, geofencing and so forth.
For video control, someone on an Alarm.com system or SmartThings can do what I've done in my system. Add a Harmony Companion or above with the Harmony hub. Integrate the Harmony hub with Alarm.com or SmartThings using IFTTT. If you want to control multiple tvs via Alexa, download the Yonomi app, setup the remaining Harmony hubs in Yonomi in and you're done. Then you can control the home audio/video systems with Alexa or Google Home, the Harmony app or the app of the control system (Alarm.com, Smartthing etc.).
In my system, I can enter the geofence that I've setup near my home and the av systems turns on, the lights activate, the garage door opens, the thermostat goes into the current mode, the hub changes to the home mode. I can punch a code into my Schlage Z-wave locks and have the av system turn on as well as all of the other stuff. When I leave the house I can tell Alexa to turn on Away and everything will turn off, lock or close (like blinds or the garage door) and the home will enter Away way 4 minutes later. I can do the same routine by pressing one button on the Schlage lock. When I leave my home for vacation as I did a couple of days ago, I tell Alexa to turn on Vacation and my hub based system will do exactly what Control4's Mockupancy does (sans music). Lights, blinds, av system all turn on/off/open and close at certain times throughout a day. Cams are set to record if the Alarm.com alarm is triggered or motion in detected in various zones around the home.
Again, I'm not knocking any system. What used to be the province of the upper end of home automation has found it's way down to the middle. Some folks are DIY people and they can do a number of connect home things themselves and feel comfortable installing, setting up, troubleshooting and fixing problems. I think that is what the OP was trying to say, I guess. And then you have people that may not want to do it themselves and for those folks Control4, RTI, Savant, Elan, Creston, Alarm.com & ADT offer connected home solutions for them. We all end up at the same place; how we got there will be different.