So I gave up researching this topic for a while and then when I started back up today I came across this thread and got deja vu... until I realized I had posted here months ago and then forgot about it haha
So sorry for the delay to answer your questions:
Originally Posted by ezlotogura
A) find a remote programmerr who can do this remotely. The google mesh you can likely do for them. No dealer is needed to touch your Wi-Fi system. The rest can mostly be done remotely
B) that website has a buy/trade forum so if you are insistent on pulling it you can sell gear
As a c4 fan i would pick option A. Glad to give you some referrals too.
I could try to provide more help if you tell me what c4 and non c4 gear they have and how they are currently using the system. Currently no AV in the system? Is it just lights and locks or something? Audio?
Personally no idea why people want an app to watch tv. Get an SR260 Remote. Who can channel surf on an iPad?
A) The only issue I have with a remote dealer is if my parents need help when I am not there they will need someone who can come to the house. I might have to try and convince the local dealer to act as a remote dealer but also be available for a house call if needed. I already upgraded the WIFI systems for them myself. Got a new DOCSIS 3.0 modem, I combined 2 Google mesh wifi systems to cover the entire house and pool, and upgraded their service speed. Saved them $4k over what the dealer quoted.
B) Thank you but this gear is sooooo old I bet it's not worth the cost of shipping haha
Thanks for offering to help! I'm going to map out their system below the next quote.
Originally Posted by Mntneer
What C4 gear do they have and what was quoted? If the controller is anything older than an HC-800 or HC-250, you'll want to replace it and upgrade it. What Network gear did they quote? With any HA system, networking is key, and most all C4 dealers are going to quote networking hardware that they know will 100% work with not only C4 equipment, but other manufacturers as well. Nothing more frustrating than adding a DIY product into a C4 system and have it crap out because of the network the system is sitting on.
Depending on their hardware, it may not be hard at all to increase the use of the system. For example, what security system do they have? Thermostats? Any IP cameras? What type/brand/model of TV's and A/V gear?
Thanks for your interest Mntneer, I'm going to skip over the network stuff b/c I have already completed the network upgrade myself and we have been very happy with it.
My parents have 0 automation in their home and don't want any. My dad is "old school" and believes the Google Home device I put in the kitchen is some type of voodoo machine haha. They have 2 viewing areas which have C4 equipment installed. In the living room they have an HC300 that is just acting as an input switcher, 99% of the time they turn on the TV and select DirecTV on the remote and that's it. In the basement there is a media room with an HC200 and all it does is switch inputs as well. Both of these C4 units could easily be replaced with Harmony Hubs. The only reason I haven't gone ahead and done that is they also have a C4 Audio Matrix Switch that is wired to speakers around the entire house and there are keypads in each zone for playback control and I know the Audio Matrix relies on the HC300 as it's brain. That's the entirety of their C4 system.
Of the $12k quote my dealer gave me upgrading the HC200, HC300, and Audio Matrix was about $6k. The rest was upgrading all of the keypads around the house, replacing the in wall control unit in the kitchen with a touchscreen unit, and adding in a Triad streaming amplifier. I don't find his pricing ridiculous I just can't wrap my head around my dad putting $12K into a system that he is barely going to scratch the surface at utilizing.
Maybe I can just upgrade the HC200 and HC300 to an EA1-V2 and EA3-V2 like my dealer has in his quote but then leave everything else the same? Once those are upgraded I can do my own programming with Composer Home Edition.
Thanks for both of your interest and again sorry for the delayed response.