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Question An Alternative to Control4

Hello,

So far I’ve been looking for options to make my new home smart. Nothing electrical is installed yet, but they have to do it soon, so I have to decide on a company asap.

So far in my last apartment, I only had individual smart appliances, such as alexa, philips HUE, etc. But I loved the idea of a unified system and that's when I found Control4. However, I keep reading complaints of C4 that would bother me as well, as having to need a dealer for everything and so on, I like learning in the process, and implementing things when I like,I would even rather pay more for someone to help me through the process than having someone install it himself, of course when is possible and doesn't involve anything too technical or critical. So, is there any better alternative? I want multi room sound, security, lightning, shades.

Anyone that can give their suggestion or point me to the right company for consultation it would be highly appreciated.

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Hello,

So far I’ve been looking for options to make my new home smart. Nothing electrical is installed yet, but they have to do it soon, so I have to decide on a company asap.

So far in my last apartment, I only had individual smart appliances, such as alexa, philips HUE, etc. But I loved the idea of a unified system and that's when I found Control4. However, I keep reading complaints of C4 that would bother me as well, as having to need a dealer for everything and so on, I like learning in the process, and implementing things when I like,I would even rather pay more for someone to help me through the process than having someone install it himself, of course when is possible and doesn't involve anything too technical or critical. So, is there any better alternative? I want multi room sound, security, lightning, shades.

Anyone that can give their suggestion or point me to the right company for consultation it would be highly appreciated.

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big box store offerings like Vera start to come apart when you look at multi room audio.

Wiring is not really different - so just wire wire wire. Ethernet Cat5e or 6 never really go bad - they can be repurposed for some types of blinds, cameras, IR Buds if needed, etc. Its a very generic statement but just saying Ethernet is a worthwhile pre wire adjustment. Also add conduit so you can run new wire easily in the future.

As far as C4, www.c4forums.com will give you 80% who love C4 vs here which is 80% who hate C4 - this is a DIY forum so they will knock any dealer program. Just an FYI - C4 has Composer Home Edition which gives you 100% programming control of your system, it is a 1 time $149 fee. You need a dealer to add hardware to your project but a dealer can do that fairly quick especially a good remote dealer you can find at c4forums.com - end of day once you get settled into the house - how often do you add stuff? In a typical year I may add a new streaming box or a light switch or whatever - 5-10 mins of work for a remote dealer to do while you are at work and you come home and its in your system and you can do all the programming. Again its not a set up for everyone, but just realize how locked down (or in some instances not locked down) the system is.

Others on here talk about Charmed Quark as a DIY system.

How do you want to control the system? A hand held remote - I cannot see watching TV using a phone/tablet device. Do you want in wall touch screens? Voice commands? How much AUTOMATION do you want over control? lots of hubs can control devices, but not all are great at automating devices from various manufacturers to work together.
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It depends on what your goals are. Are you looking for a relationship with a dealer who is going to do everything for you or do you want to do things yourself. If you want to do things yourself I don't think you can beat Home Assistant right now. Its basically a front end that ties everything together quite nicely. Community driven. Free. I use it and have things like my Jandy pool controls, security cameras, harmony remotes, vera hub, etc. all in there. It's very flexible and quite addicting once you get the hang of it.
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