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Dimmer for theater LED cans - that works with Harmony

I am in the middle of my theater build and am looking for a dimmer switch that is compatible with LED can lights, is available in black, and works with a Harmony Ultimate (with Hub). It also needs to work standalone as I don't have any other smart home hubs. What suggestions do you have?

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Lutron works with the Harmony hub; I’ve never set it up, but the Harmony site confirms it’s compatible with Caseta and RA2 Select.

If you want superior dimming, I would recommend using a 0-10v system. Lutron makes an RF 0-10v dimming module that links up to their hub and you could use a Pico for wall control. You’ll need 0-10v recessed fixtures (like Juno 2LED) and Southwire offers a PCS-Duo nonmetallic cable for residential.

Otherwise just a standard Lutron LED dimmer, and they do come in black, and also the Lutron hub.


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The can light rough in kits are already installed and drywall is starting today. The electrician supplied the rough in kits, so I'm sure they are the cheapest thing at the supply house.

It sounds like I need a Caseta dimmer ($54) and a Caseta hub ($78) to make this work. That seems like a lot for four can lights in one room, but I guess it is what it is. I was hoping for a cheaper solution (like one that didn't need a hub).

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I don't think there is anything that is going to work without a hub in the middle. I am using smartthings and GE dimmers. Gives you flexibility to expand in other ways too. I think Philips just released a bulb that doesn't need a hub, but I am sure it will be more than adding the hub.
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The can light rough in kits are already installed and drywall is starting today. The electrician supplied the rough in kits, so I'm sure they are the cheapest thing at the supply house.



It sounds like I need a Caseta dimmer ($54) and a Caseta hub ($78) to make this work. That seems like a lot for four can lights in one room, but I guess it is what it is. I was hoping for a cheaper solution (like one that didn't need a hub).


Recommend the Pro version of the hub. It offers better integration with other HA systems.


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Does the Pro vs non Pro matter for me if the only other "smart" features in the house are two Honeywell HVAC thermostats and I already have an app for them on my phone?

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Not unless you change remote control solution or home automation hub that requires telnet (ip control) for Caseta. Or if using Lutron triathlon shading solutions.
Starter kit has a dimmer, bridge and pico remote <$100.

I’ve installed many lighting systems with Harmony remotes and Harmony Hub remotes. The least expensive single dimmer solution is Lutron Maestro MIR-600 IR if your Remote or Hub is within IR range. Lutron Caseta with a bridge and a Pico is much better. Buy a pedestal for your pico for quick table top access to lighting control.

Then Logitech has it’s own z-wave hub that interfaces with Harmony Hub and you have choice of many z-wave switches and bulbs.

Other non-hub solutions are Hue, LIFX and TP-link. Color lights make a statement for party time or your favorite teams colors. Although difficult to dial in on the harmony remote. App(s) work better. I have a customer lights change to Red when his team is in the football Red Zone. My favorite color non-hub bulbs are LIFX.


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Does the Pro vs non Pro matter for me if the only other "smart" features in the house are two Honeywell HVAC thermostats and I already have an app for them on my phone?


Probably not. As Mocs noted, the Pro gives you the ability to access the control functions via IP. If you're sure you're never gonna extend your home to a more elaborate setup, it's not relevant. I like to have maximum flexibility so I like the Pro.


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Thanks. I will probably pick up the Starter Kit.

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One more thing is that I would like to have is a wifi or bluetooth power strip that I can control with Harmony or the Caseta Hub. I have two Behringer iNukes that don't have remotes that I would like to be able to turn on and off via the Harmony. Is there something that you would recommend?

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Dimmer for theater LED cans - that works with Harmony

If using Caseta you can change this device from being a dimmer to a switch. Given that your iNukes probably draw a lot of power you should use it with a switching power control outlet device. That way your not asking the module to switch a lot of current on/off because it won’t be rated for that.

Lutron Caseta Wireless Smart Lighting Lamp Dimmer, PD-3PCL-WH, Works with Alexa, Apple HomeKit, and the Google Assistant https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHSXB60..._Vz7oDbHK97WVT


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