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Thanks again Dalto. I've never been on the cutting edge before, so I guess I can't start when it's cost prohibitive as well.

I was just reading a negative review of the W800C, and a Sony person replied saying that you had to make sure to "have the latest firmware version installed for better performance." What does this mean? Do you have to connect the computer to the internet to achieve this, or is it something that has to be done by a repair person? I don't have the internet at home, so I guess I'm out of the loop on how these internet-connected sets work.
Yes, you typically connect to the internet and TV downloads the new firmware. Alternatively, you can also download the software somewhere else and put it on a USB stick. Then insert the usb drive into your TV and do the update that way.

Honestly, if you don't have internet at the house I would seriously consider getting last years "B" model. The 2015 TVs are Android based and getting large updates frequently due to the newness of the software.
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The X830C is not a terrible set in the absolute sense but it has an IPS panel with a pretty poor contrast ratio. If you want a UHD set I believe there are better options from other manufacturers.

The need for a UHD/4K set in 2015 is highly debated. Content is already starting to be available via streaming services and we are expecting UHD BD to be available later this year. There is more than just resolution to UHD though. Wider color gamuts, high dynamic range processing and support for high frame rate content is also coming. TVs that support all of these features are currently priced quite high.

My advice is to wait to buy into the UHD ecosystem unless you like being on the cutting edge. Less expensive TVs that support all facets of the new technology should be widely available in a couple of years.
I agree at this size and smaller I think its less of a big deal to move to UHD. Its going to be a while until content providers figure out how to utilize these new features.

remember back to early DVDs and how much that stuff changed. Players had issues with certain movies firmware changes had to happen a lot.

At a 70 and above size its a tougher choice. I think the manufactures are really pushing anyone hard to 4k in that size.
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The 2015 TVs are Android based and getting large updates frequently due to the newness of the software.
What do these firmware updates address? Is it just "smart" features of the TV that they add or improve, or do they improve picture? I read something within the past couple days about a picture issue with one model being fixed by a firmware update, but that may be incorrect.
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What do these firmware updates address? Is it just "smart" features of the TV that they add or improve, or do they improve picture? I read something within the past couple days about a picture issue with one model being fixed by a firmware update, but that may be incorrect.
They can fix software, picture or reliability issues. They can even introduce new features.
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Sony KDL-65W850B vs 850C

EDIT: OK, I read through some of the thread and realize that I missed something.

1. Budget
$1500-$2000. Will go up to $2200 with reason.

2. Seating distance
8'-11' depending on seat in the room.

3. Size/placement limitations
This room is bright during the day and there is not much to do about it. Luckily, at night it is fine and that's when I usually watch the TV. I have curtains and that tends to make viewing tolerable during the day.

4. Uses and sources
Sources are basically gaming systems. The newest being the PS4. I use that to do everything. Netflix, Amazon Prime, games, etc. It is just way easier to navigate than my smart TV (that is busted). We will be getting cable again from Comcast in 3-4 months.I need 4 HDMI inputs and 1 component and 1 composite. I need some sort of digital audio out to go to my receiver.

I game alot so input lag is a big deal to me.

5. Room lighting

Mentioned this already but during the day it is horribly bright due to windows and the reflections on the TV can get annoyingly bad. At night I have no issues.


EDIT END ------------


I posted this in it's own thread before seeing this.

I'll repost the contents here. It's esentially a question of get the 850B again or downgrade to a the 850C.

So:
Sony KDL-65W850B vs Sony KDL-65W850C

Of course, I might be missing a different make/model so let me know if there is another TV that I should consider.I think the big driver here is black levels.

------------------- ORIG POST ---------------
I need to get a new TV basically. It sucks because my old TV (KDL-60W850B) was 1 year old. The new TV is going to go up from a 60" to a 65".

1) I need low latency for gaming. 850B was great for gaming
2) I was highly satisfied with my W850B in every aspect
3) I used 3D once as I expected when buying it. I could care less for 3D.
4) I want to go 65" in my next model.
5) I want 4 HDMI ports and atleast one composite (or is it component?? .... the one with a single yellow video jack).
6) I want optical digital out to my TV. HDMI would also work but I prefer optical digital.
7) black levels. I love TVs with good black level reproduction. It's something I will pay more for within reason.
8) 4K means nothing to me.

Budget: $1500-$2000

EDIT: OK, the B suffix is superior to the C suffix.

Any non Sony TVs that I should consider?

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Hi guys, I just bought a new surround sound system and was looking for a new Tv to go with it. I dont really know where to start so I'll fill in the template, let me know if theres anything I should add.

1. Budget
$1000 Canadian.

2. Seating distance
8'-10'

3. Size/placement limitations
This room is in my basement so I have a decent amount of space to use. I was looking for the TV to be at least 50" tho as the one I am replacing is a 42" LG Plasma, which is about 10 years old now.

4. Uses and sources
I plan on using it for a bit of everything. I game a lot, mostly PS4,wiiU and xbox 360 but I also plan on using my plex server to watch my movies/Blu rays.

5. Room lighting
This room is in my basement so will be pretty dark for the most part. A very tiny window is on the other side of the room but will have the blinds closed most of the time.

Thanks for taking the time to read! Please keep in mind I am in Canada so I get shafted on a lot of prices.
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4. Uses and sources
Sources are basically gaming systems. The newest being the PS4. I use that to do everything. Netflix, Amazon Prime, games, etc. It is just way easier to navigate than my smart TV (that is busted). We will be getting cable again from Comcast in 3-4 months.I need 4 HDMI inputs and 1 component and 1 composite. I need some sort of digital audio out to go to my receiver.
Most of the 2015 TVs have a single input for composite and component. Finding a TV that can handle two different devices may be challenging or require some external switching.

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I game alot so input lag is a big deal to me.
Do you have a specific lag number in mind or is anything under 40ms acceptable?
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Any non Sony TVs that I should consider?
Vizio M-series and Samsung JU7100 are worth looking at. Both are 4K.

You might trying seeing what 2014 1080p TVs are still available in your area. There are not a lot of good 1080p TVs in 2015. The 65W850C is one of the best 2015 1080p sets IMO.

Honestly, you might have to call around but you should be able to find the Samsung 65JU7100 within your budget and that sounds like one of the better sets for you. Black levels are not going to be perfect on any set in this price range. Alternatively, if you are willing to try another 65W850B and can still find one in your area that might be a good choice too.

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Hi guys, I just bought a new surround sound system and was looking for a new Tv to go with it. I dont really know where to start so I'll fill in the template, let me know if theres anything I should add.

1. Budget
$1000 Canadian.

2. Seating distance
8'-10'

3. Size/placement limitations
This room is in my basement so I have a decent amount of space to use. I was looking for the TV to be at least 50" tho as the one I am replacing is a 42" LG Plasma, which is about 10 years old now.

4. Uses and sources
I plan on using it for a bit of everything. I game a lot, mostly PS4,wiiU and xbox 360 but I also plan on using my plex server to watch my movies/Blu rays.

5. Room lighting
This room is in my basement so will be pretty dark for the most part. A very tiny window is on the other side of the room but will have the blinds closed most of the time.

Thanks for taking the time to read! Please keep in mind I am in Canada so I get shafted on a lot of prices.
Wow, you really do get shafted on some of those prices in ca. How about the Sony 50W800C?
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Most of the 2015 TVs have a single input for composite and component. Finding a TV that can handle two different devices may be challenging or require some external switching.

Do you have a specific lag number in mind or is anything under 40ms acceptable?
Vizio M-series and Samsung JU7100 are worth looking at. Both are 4K.

You might trying seeing what 2014 1080p TVs are still available in your area. There are not a lot of good 1080p TVs in 2015. The 65W850C is one of the best 2015 1080p sets IMO.

Honestly, you might have to call around but you should be able to find the Samsung 65JU7100 within your budget and that sounds like one of the better sets for you. Black levels are not going to be perfect on any set in this price range. Alternatively, if you are willing to try another 65W850B and can still find one in your area that might be a good choice too.


Wow, you really do get shafted on some of those prices in ca. How about the Sony 50W800C?

Ya, the 50W800C is the one I was looking at as well. It's "On sale" at best buy for only $999.99 lol but that seems like my best option.
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Hi -

Hoping to buy a TV tomorrow.

Sit 8-10 ft away from TV. Primarily watch Plex, Netflix and Cable. Also game on Xbox One.

Currently have a Panny TC-46PGT24. Happy with the PQ. Ready to go up in size. Couldn't care less about 3D.

Leaning towards a 4k. My receiver won't support it but I figure it may be more "future proof". Have no qualms about sticking at 1080p for the right set.

Size. 55" - 60". Leaning towards 60.

Budget. $1300-1500. Can spend up to $2000.

Prefer to actually buy from Costco. Can buy from Best Buy. No online as I live in Alaska.

Any input? Thanks!
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Anyone know how the Sony x900c compared to the x850c in terms of picture quality?
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Hi -

Hoping to buy a TV tomorrow.

Sit 8-10 ft away from TV. Primarily watch Plex, Netflix and Cable. Also game on Xbox One.

Currently have a Panny TC-46PGT24. Happy with the PQ. Ready to go up in size. Couldn't care less about 3D.

Leaning towards a 4k. My receiver won't support it but I figure it may be more "future proof". Have no qualms about sticking at 1080p for the right set.

Size. 55" - 60". Leaning towards 60.

Budget. $1300-1500. Can spend up to $2000.

Prefer to actually buy from Costco. Can buy from Best Buy. No online as I live in Alaska.

Any input? Thanks!
At Costco the Vizio M60-C3. At best buy the Samsung 60JU7100.

I would get the Samsung all else being equal. The in-home warranty is nice if you live in Alaska. Also, check out the Netflix promotion they are running now and see if it applies to you.

As far as your receiver goes if your issue is that it does not have HDCP 2.2 ports I would not worry about it yet. There are still no UHD HDMI devices on the market so it should not present many short-term issues.


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Anyone know how the Sony x900c compared to the x850c in terms of picture quality?
There are not that many x900c's out yet so limited reviews and owners impressions. Initial feedback as been some uniformity issues caused by it being edge lit. At 65" and 75" the X850C is backlit. Unless you need a TV right now my advice would be to wait a couple of weeks until we have more impressions/reviews of the 900c/910c.

My personal speculation is going to be that PQ is better overall on the X850C. The claim to fame of the X900C is that it is thin.
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Hey guys,

I'm debating a 4K 43" TV. 43" is about as big as I can go in the bedroom so I'm looking at the Sony X830C or Vizio M43-C1. It's primarily for movies and sports, no gaming (I bought a 60W850B last year for gaming and love it).

Any reason to pick the Sony over the Vizio that justifies the Sony premium? From what I understand, the contrast and blacks are better on the Vizio. (Sony has an IPS panel right?) Viewing angles and bright room conditions aren't an issue in the bedroom.

Coming from an 8 year old 720p 32" LCD should be an upgrade no matter what.
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Any reason to pick the Sony over the Vizio that justifies the Sony premium? From what I understand, the contrast and blacks are better on the Vizio. (Sony has an IPS panel right?) Viewing angles and bright room conditions aren't an issue in the bedroom.
The Sony has Android TV is that sort of thing is interesting to you. The Sony has 120Hz panel vs the 60Hz in the Vizio.

I would get the Vizio M-series over the Sony X830C in most cases due to the poor contrast ratio on the Sony.

I would take a hard look at the Samsung 40JU7100 too. If you are willing to lose 3" this is probably the best bet.
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My tv seems to have died. So I might as well start learning about what new is available incase its not fixable.

1. Budget: $1400
2. Seating distance: 9-10ft
3. Size/placement limitations: Will go on tv stand. Stand is 5.3ft wide. No real width or height limitations at all.
4. Uses and sources: Cox tv box, PS3/360 for games and Netflix movie streaming. No sports.
5. Room lighting: Window on opposite side. It does have a curtain, but light does and will bleed into the room illuminating it.

I was thinking of going bigger as I currently have a 46' tv. Was thinking at minimum a 55 or perhaps a 60 or 65. Was thinking of going 4k as they seem to fall in this range on occasion.
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Any reason to pick the Sony over the Vizio that justifies the Sony premium? From what I understand, the contrast and blacks are better on the Vizio. (Sony has an IPS panel right?) Viewing angles and bright room conditions aren't an issue in the bedroom.
the panel used on 830C is abysmal. it's rumored to be the cheapest LG IPS panel around with horrible black levels, contrast and brightness. i saw this TV at a store and it was painful to look at.
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At Costco the Vizio M60-C3. At best buy the Samsung 60JU7100.

I would get the Samsung all else being equal. The in-home warranty is nice if you live in Alaska. Also, check out the Netflix promotion they are running now and see if it applies to you.

As far as your receiver goes if your issue is that it does not have HDCP 2.2 ports I would not worry about it yet. There are still no UHD HDMI devices on the market so it should not present many short-term issues.



There are not that many x900c's out yet so limited reviews and owners impressions. Initial feedback as been some uniformity issues caused by it being edge lit. At 65" and 75" the X850C is backlit. Unless you need a TV right now my advice would be to wait a couple of weeks until we have more impressions/reviews of the 900c/910c.

My personal speculation is going to be that PQ is better overall on the X850C. The claim to fame of the X900C is that it is thin.
Hey, thanks!

The local BBs do not have the 7100 in-stock but can order both the 55 and 60.

Do you feel the 7100 is worth the ~ 44% price premium over the Vizio? Or, if say i was capped at a set $$$ and could choose either the 60" Visio or the Samsung but in 55", is the Samsung still the top choice?

On the receiver, I actually don't have a 4k capable receiver at the moment. That'd be my next purchase down the road. Preferring a 4k TV is more for future proofing.

Boy, I went to Costco today and they have the 55" 4k 8500 series there... wow! I actually almost bought it, but decided to try to get something a little less expensive if it checks all the boxes.

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Do you feel the 7100 is worth the ~ 44% price premium over the Vizio?
No, unless you value the specific areas of improved performance on the Samsung very highly the Vizio is a better value at that size/price point.

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Or, if say i was capped at a set $$$ and could choose either the 60" Visio or the Samsung but in 55", is the Samsung still the top choice?
Motion handling will be a little bit better on the Samsung. The software is a bit better on the Samsung and likely to get updated more often. How much do you value those two things over the 5"? Hard question to answer. They are both good sets.

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Boy, I went to Costco today and they have the 55" 4k 8500 series there... wow! I actually almost bought it, but decided to try to get something a little less expensive if it checks all the boxes.
The 8500 is nice set. I actually prefer the Costco version with the black bezel over the normal one with the silver bezel.
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The Sony has Android TV is that sort of thing is interesting to you. The Sony has 120Hz panel vs the 60Hz in the Vizio.

I would get the Vizio M-series over the Sony X830C in most cases due to the poor contrast ratio on the Sony.

I would take a hard look at the Samsung 40JU7100 too. If you are willing to lose 3" this is probably the best bet.
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the panel used on 830C is abysmal. it's rumored to be the cheapest LG IPS panel around with horrible black levels, contrast and brightness. i saw this TV at a store and it was painful to look at.

I went with the Vizio. I wasn't willing to lose the inches, nor really increase the price. Thanks.
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looking for an upgrade from my current model

currently hosting a 2008 JVC 32" with 720p LCD

what i am looking for in my upgrade;
1) budget: i do not want to go over $400
2) seating distance: N/A. however, average bedroom usage ( i change where i am seated depending on what i am doing )
3) screen size: between 40 and 50 (also has to be atleast full 1080p, and be able to sit on a desk)
4) uses/sources: modern gaming (ps3, ps4), retro gaming through the xrgb mini (n64, wii, ps2, snes), video via a media player/streamer, and watching tv programming
5) room lighting; window blinds/curtains are generally closed less it is abnormally hot out, ceiling light or desk light is generally on
6) inputs; preferably at least 3 hdmi ports (for minimal cord switching) but definitely no less than 2

the tv i am currently looking at is the vizio e43-c2
but i figured i would drop by here and ask before going out and grabbing one
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1) budget: $1000-1500
2) seating distance: About 8'
3) screen size: I'd like something in the 60" - 65" range
4) uses/sources: TV (via DirecTV), Netflix, Blu-ray. No gaming on this TV.
5) room lighting; Bright during the day with tons of windows including a giant glass door. Relatively dark at night; overhead track lighting.
6) inputs: I'll be using a receiver to handle inputs so I guess it needs a total of 1 HDMI input.

I'm not super concerned with 4K; I'd probably prefer to save cash rather than splurge on 4K right now. I'm mainly concerned with image quality @1080p especially for watching Blu-ray movies. I live in Phoenix, Arizona and can buy at Costco, Best Buy, Amazon, etc.
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the tv i am currently looking at is the vizio e43-c2
but i figured i would drop by here and ask before going out and grabbing one
Go for the e-series. Nothing better in the sub $400 price range without going used unless you can find a 2013 or 2014 model on sale somewhere.

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1) budget: $1000-1500
2) seating distance: About 8'
3) screen size: I'd like something in the 60" - 65" range
4) uses/sources: TV (via DirecTV), Netflix, Blu-ray. No gaming on this TV.
5) room lighting; Bright during the day with tons of windows including a giant glass door. Relatively dark at night; overhead track lighting.
6) inputs: I'll be using a receiver to handle inputs so I guess it needs a total of 1 HDMI input.

I'm not super concerned with 4K; I'd probably prefer to save cash rather than splurge on 4K right now. I'm mainly concerned with image quality @1080p especially for watching Blu-ray movies. I live in Phoenix, Arizona and can buy at Costco, Best Buy, Amazon, etc.
Sony 65W850C is probably the best 1080p option. The best 4K option is probably the 60" Vizio M-series.

You might see if you local stores have any 2014 1080p TVs still in stock at a discount. In 2015 most manufacturers have dropped most of the quality 1080p stuff in favor of pushing UHD downmarket.
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1) budget: $400-$600
2) seating distance: About 5'
3) screen size: I'd like something in the 40" - 49" range
4) uses/sources: As an extra computer monitor--will be gaming on it.
5) room lighting:Bright in the day and dark at night
6) inputs: 2-3

I would like the sharpest image in my price range and I don't mind if it's closer to $600 than $400. I don't play FPS games so I don't really care that much about the input lag. Thanks!
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Budget) ~2500
Distance ) 10'
Size) 65"
Uses) TV/Gaming/Surfing Internet/Movies/Wrestling...
Room) Fairly average lighting, maybe a little under average
inputs) Only need one. Will connect it to receiver for my 5.1
HDR) YES, YES
4K) YES, YES


So, I'm looking for a new tv. And all I read about is HDR. But there doesn't seem to be much out there yet. Can anyone help? HDR isn't really a well defined "thing" yet so it's not like there's stickers on the TVs at BestBuy that are HDR....

Which ones are for the prices I'm considering? Can I even find one?

Should I just hold out for that Vizio Reference series... cuz we know it'll be much cheaper than everything else.
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Budget) ~2500
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HDR) YES, YES
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So, I'm looking for a new tv. And all I read about is HDR. But there doesn't seem to be much out there yet. Can anyone help? HDR isn't really a well defined "thing" yet so it's not like there's stickers on the TVs at BestBuy that are HDR....

Which ones are for the prices I'm considering? Can I even find one?

Should I just hold out for that Vizio Reference series... cuz we know it'll be much cheaper than everything else.
The cheapest 65" TV that definitively supports HDR is the Samsung 65JS8500 at $2,999.

It is worth noting that people have reported that unofficially the Samsung JU7100 also displays HDR content to the best of it's abilities.

The mythical vizio r-series may be out this year, or next.......or never. It is possible that the 2015 P-series will support HDR but they have not been announced yet so it is all just speculation at this point.
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The cheapest 65" TV that definitively supports HDR is the Samsung 65JS8500 at $2,999.

It is worth noting that people have reported that unofficially the Samsung JU7100 also displays HDR content to the best of it's abilities.

The mythical vizio r-series may be out this year, or next.......or never. It is possible that the 2015 P-series will support HDR but they have not been announced yet so it is all just speculation at this point.
The LG 65UF9500 is HDR too, isn't it? But it's $2,999 as well... I guess I should up my limit to 3K.
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The LG 65UF9500 is HDR too, isn't it? But it's $2,999 as well... I guess I should up my limit to 3K.
I haven't seen a review of that TV yet but it certainly looks nice on the brightly lit store floor. If you are a gamer be sure to check out its ratings for input lag. Other 2015 LG tvs have not performed well in that regard.
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I was planning on getting the Sony 55" kdl700b but BB is out of stock so now I don't know what to get.

Budget - $1k, don't want to go much higher since the sony was $900.
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I was planning on getting the Sony 55" kdl700b but BB is out of stock so now I don't know what to get.

Budget - $1k, don't want to go much higher since the sony was $900.
Viewing distance - 9'
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55" Vizio M-series is under your budget
55" Samsung JU6500 is $100 over your budget
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55" Vizio M-series is under your budget
55" Samsung JU6500 is $100 over your budget
I was looking at the Samsung, and I will spend more for the better picture. Does the Samsung have good motion viewing? Ever since I saw my father in laws TV(not sure brand) have that weird motion look while watching Back To The Future, I have been scared to buy a non plasma because it was wildly distracting.

Thanks for your time.
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I was looking at the Samsung, and I will spend more for the better picture. Does the Samsung have good motion viewing? Ever since I saw my father in laws TV(not sure brand) have that weird motion look while watching Back To The Future, I have been scared to buy a non plasma because it was wildly distracting.

Thanks for your time.
LCD TVs have numerous motion issues so it is hard to say.

If what you were seeing was Motion Interpolation or the Soap Opera Effect(SOE) than neither of these TVs will be very good at that anyway since they are both 60Hz panels so you should be OK.

If what you were seeing was ghosting then I haven't spent enough time with either of these sets to answer your question unfortunately.

If what you were seeing was juddering/stuttering it is likely you will see some of that with both of these sets.

Generally speaking, some people will be hugely bothered by SOE while others won't even see it. Nearly everyone will be troubled by ghosting if it is severe enough. Juddering is another thing that some people will be bothered by and others will not.

As for how to look for these things. SOE will be evident simply by it being turned on if you are bothered by it. I typically notice ghosting when watching sports, especially football. I usually see juddering in fast motion scenarios or rapid panning.
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