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IMO, from 12 feet you will not see a difference in 4k vs 1080p. I think a larger screen will be more impressive than any slight difference in image quality. I do not know what to make of the D-series. It seems like a tremendous value at that price. You get fewer active zones and a lower refresh rate, but in the vast majority of viewing, that probably will not matter. I have a 70" E-series that I view from about 12' and I am very happy with it.
Yeah...really wish I had more info on the new D Series. Essentially the same size and price as the E series but with 4K. I'd love to go larger, but in 4 years, would I regret not having 4K? I plan to keep this TV for a good while.
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IMO, from 12 feet you will not see a difference in 4k vs 1080p. I think a larger screen will be more impressive than any slight difference in image quality. I do not know what to make of the D-series. It seems like a tremendous value at that price. You get fewer active zones and a lower refresh rate, but in the vast majority of viewing, that probably will not matter. I have a 70" E-series that I view from about 12' and I am very happy with it.
What if I'm sitting 6 feet or less away? Should i get 4k? Because for me I can get a vizio 4k 49'' @ 500 or a vizio 1080p 55''@ 449
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What if I'm sitting 6 feet or less away? Should i get 4k? Because for me I can get a vizio 4k 49'' @ 500 or a vizio 1080p 55''@ 449
At 6 feet with a TV that big, 4k would be beneficial. The TV would also probably be too big.
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At 6 feet with a TV that big, 4k would be beneficial. The TV would also probably be too big.
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I sit 3ft from a 40" Vizio, and it's just about right for me while gaming. I had planned to get the 39", but the 40" 2015 model showed up in stores first, and I didn't want to wait. Nobody makes good screens for gaming between 32 and 40 inch. It's either a small monitor or go big. Pisses me off.
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1. Budget = $1500
2. Seating distance = 11 feet
3. Size/placement limitations = None - I am targeting 60 inches, main listening position is directly in front
4. Uses and sources = 60% TV, mainly sports (hockey), 40% movies
5. Room lighting = In basement, generally dark, and lights on dimmers.

I'm looking for a new TV, outline above. I believe I want a 120 hz native panel, so the hockey puck does not blur across the screen. I am also targeting 4k.

Prelim research has led me to the following options:

Samsung 60'' JS8000 for $1600. This looks like a brand new model for Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-...&skuId=4575002

Sharp 60'' LC-60UE30U for $1300.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sharp-aq...&skuId=7136161

Sharp 65'' LC-65UB30U for $1400.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sharp-aq...&skuId=7136143

Sony 65'' XBR65X800B for $1700.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-65-...&skuId=2004035

What do you think is the best TV and bang for the buck? Curious to hear your recommendations. Thank you.
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At some point, I want to buy a 55" - 60" LED TV to go above my LR fireplace above the mantel. My builder graciously installed one of those 'in-wall' tunnel tubes and a power outlet for future hanging of a tv set there. With all the brands and sets available and with 4K making it's way into the scene, I don't know whether to stay with a 1080P set or go with the newer 4K sets that are out now and will become the norm?
Looking for suggestions on either technology? Budget cheaper the better but no more than say $700.
Thanks,
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Question. Sitting at 12ft away from the tv, would a bigger tv make a difference more than picture quality? Im deciding between the 65in 8500 samsung and the 70in M series vizio(or even 75 if its in price range).
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678v comes with the Magic Remote and was supposed to get an update to 2.0 but it's not happening. 652V 55" is also an IPS.
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thanks for the heads up. Strange that LG doesn't mention that the display is an IPS on their website.
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Been looking at reviews for months and i have gotten no where

1. Budget = $1800.00
2. Seating distance = 7 feet to Lazy boy, offset 20 degrees, and 10.5 ft to couch, which is dead on.
3. Size/placement limitations = None Looking at minimum 60 inch, upgrading from a 5yo LG 47 inch
4. Uses and sources = 70% TV, mainly sports (hockey, football) over directv, 40% streamed movies( Vudu and Netflix). I sometimes play Xbox one, but nothing hardcore.
5. Room lighting = In family room, Usually lit by one lamp, but occasionally watch movies in the dark.

Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Looking to buy this weekend!
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Posted a few days ago and no responses. Think I have narrowed down the search a bit. Replacing a Vizio M650VSE that I bought from Costco 3-4 years ago.

1. Budget - $2500 (can go over if its worth it)

2. Seating distance - sofa is 14 feet. The middle of sofa is dead on, the furthest edge is 20-30 degrees offset. The viewing angle on the Vizio I have now is fine.

3. Can't go larger than 65inch. Have it mounted on a wall

4. Uses - TV, mainly sports and streaming netflix

5. Room lighting - no overhead lighting in room. Lots of windows, good light but not much direct sunlight b/c the windows are shaded by palm trees. No glare issues with my Vizio.

Looking at the Vizio 65" M Series 4k TV or the Samsung 8500 Series 65". The Vizio seems to get better reviews and is about $1,000 cheaper. Looking for some help on making the decision (or if there is a TV that is better than both of these in the same price range, let me know)
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Posted a few days ago and no responses. Think I have narrowed down the search a bit. Replacing a Vizio M650VSE that I bought from Costco 3-4 years ago.

1. Budget - $2500 (can go over if its worth it)

2. Seating distance - sofa is 14 feet. The middle of sofa is dead on, the furthest edge is 20-30 degrees offset. The viewing angle on the Vizio I have now is fine.

3. Can't go larger than 65inch. Have it mounted on a wall

4. Uses - TV, mainly sports and streaming netflix

5. Room lighting - no overhead lighting in room. Lots of windows, good light but not much direct sunlight b/c the windows are shaded by palm trees. No glare issues with my Vizio.

Looking at the Vizio 65" M Series 4k TV or the Samsung 8500 Series 65". The Vizio seems to get better reviews and is about $1,000 cheaper. Looking for some help on making the decision (or if there is a TV that is better than both of these in the same price range, let me know)
Of the two sets you're down to, the Samsung supports HDR is the better of the two for sports while both are excellent for movies. Both those sets have VA panels with viewing angles limited to 20 degrees. If you really will be viewing regularly at up to 30 degrees, you might consider an IPS panel set. They're not as bright and have less contrast but will look the same out to 35 degrees off angle. The Sony XBR65X810C is well under your budget and most LG LEDs have IPS panels.
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Been looking at reviews for months and i have gotten no where

1. Budget = $1800.00
2. Seating distance = 7 feet to Lazy boy, offset 20 degrees, and 10.5 ft to couch, which is dead on.
3. Size/placement limitations = None Looking at minimum 60 inch, upgrading from a 5yo LG 47 inch
4. Uses and sources = 70% TV, mainly sports (hockey, football) over directv, 40% streamed movies( Vudu and Netflix). I sometimes play Xbox one, but nothing hardcore.
5. Room lighting = In family room, Usually lit by one lamp, but occasionally watch movies in the dark.

Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Looking to buy this weekend!
Thanks
The Samsung UN60JU7100 seems to fit your needs at about $200 over budget. Maybe one of those black Friday sales will kick in to drop the price to your number.
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At some point, I want to buy a 55" - 60" LED TV to go above my LR fireplace above the mantel. My builder graciously installed one of those 'in-wall' tunnel tubes and a power outlet for future hanging of a tv set there. With all the brands and sets available and with 4K making it's way into the scene, I don't know whether to stay with a 1080P set or go with the newer 4K sets that are out now and will become the norm?
Looking for suggestions on either technology? Budget cheaper the better but no more than say $700.
Thanks,
At that price you're not in the 4K range so the 1080p Vizio E55-C1 is worth a look.
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The Samsung UN60JU7100 seems to fit your needs at about $200 over budget. Maybe one of those black Friday sales will kick in to drop the price to your number.
Dave,
Any insight on the JS8000?
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Im debating between buying a Samsung un55js8500, a Panasonic 55cx850 or a sony 55xbr850c. Considering that the samsung up here(canada) costs almost $300 more than the sony and 200 less than the panasonic(all 3 with the xbox one), is it worth quality wise? Im coming from a plasma from 2009, so any of those models is an improvment but i also prefer brighter images with more color and detail than dark ones. i know that the samsung does come with the xbox one, which i was looking forward to purchase.

Back in 2009 was a lot easier to pick a Tv.
Apreciate any input on this


The only reason i didnt include LG was that i cant stand that webos menu they use

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Im debating between buying a Samsung un55js8500, a Panasonic 55cx850 or a sony 55xbr850c. Considering that the samsung up here(canada) costs almost $300 more than the sony and 200 less than the panasonic(all 3 with the xbox one), is it worth quality wise? Im coming from a plasma from 2009, so any of those models is an improvment but i also prefer brighter images with more color and detail than dark ones. i know that the samsung does come with the xbox one, which i was looking forward to purchase.

Back in 2009 was a lot easier to pick a Tv.
Apreciate any input on this


The only reason i didnt include LG was that i cant stand that webos menu they use
We wish we had the option to checkout the Panasonic 55CX850 at a store in the US, but it's internet order only here. Even though I put the idea of upgrading my TV now to rest, I was a little tempted by an email offer from Panasonic for the 55CX850 at $1,799 recently.

If I were in your shoes, I'd cull out the Sony and go with the either Panasonic 55CX850 or Samsung UN55JS8500. You'd be safer with the Samsung since more information is available about it but I'd go check them out at a store and see which one best fits your eye.
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Same thing here with the Panasonic, i havent found a local store that has it in display. Just gotta talk with the wife, and most likely will purchase this weekend.
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75" 1080p TV or 65" 4K TV

Looking to buy one this thanksgiving. Viewing distance is 12-15ft. Very bright room during that day. Viewing seats are max 35-40 degrees off center.

Contents will be mostly cable and BluRay. Streaming is via Apple TV, which is 1080p max. Not sure about 4K content in the near future.

Should I get a 75" 1080p TV or 65" 4K TV. I'm hoping these would be priced close this thanksgiving.

I don't need any smart features. Just the best picture quality and reliability. Model suggestions welcome.

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Dave,
Any insight on the JS8000?
From a review, it appears to be a special Best Buy SUHD model with a lower quality Chinese panel from AU Optronics. If you're going to buy a premium brand I think it should come with their own panel.
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Just to add a little more to my last post re the two points above...

According to Rtings, the Vizio E has a bit less lag than the Sammy J6300. So that might make it preferable for gaming.

Also, the somewhat glossier screen on the 43" Vizio E43-C2 might be a little less desirable for daytime viewing. The semi-glossy screen finish on the 40" Vizio E40-C2 looks about the same as the Sammy 40J6300 though.
Eh....choices.

Thanks so much for the help though! After reading your responses, you had double confirmed my previous notion to go with the J6300 - and especially seeing BB lowered it by like 40 bucks this week - I was planning on getting it.

Although, I just reread all the posts again, and I'm concerned about the input lag.

I wonder If I am overestimating the issue. The Samsung J6300 has 44-50ms lag, the Vizio is only 29-30.

It's only 10-15 more, and I wonder how bad that actually is.

It just seems like the Samsung J6300 is a much better tv than E40, however if I can't game on it, it won't be worth it.
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Eh....choices.

Thanks so much for the help though! After reading your responses, you had double confirmed my previous notion to go with the J6300 - and especially seeing BB lowered it by like 40 bucks this week - I was planning on getting it.

Although, I just reread all the posts again, and I'm concerned about the input lag.

I wonder If I am overestimating the issue. The Samsung J6300 has 44-50ms lag, the Vizio is only 29-30.

It's only 10-15 more, and I wonder how bad that actually is.

It just seems like the Samsung J6300 is a much better tv than E40, however if I can't game on it, it won't be worth it.
With the Bestbuy return policy, you could try both and return it if you can not game on it.

From the BB website:

Extended Holiday Return & Exchange Promise

For your convenience, we offer an extended return and exchange policy during the holiday season. Purchases made between November 1, 2015, and December 31, 2015, have an extended return period through January 15, 2016. Excluded items include cell phones and devices with a carrier contract, and AppleCare and Geek Squad® Protection plans returned without a product. All other terms and conditions of our Return & Exchange Promise apply.
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Although, I just reread all the posts again, and I'm concerned about the input lag.

I wonder If I am overestimating the issue. The Samsung J6300 has 44-50ms lag, the Vizio is only 29-30.

It's only 10-15 more, and I wonder how bad that actually is.
Well for first person shooter games, 44ms of lag is problematic. For other more sedate games, it might not really matter. The Samsung has better motion control for gaming which is why Rtings rated it better for gaming. But a serious gamer playing on-line first person shooter titles like Call of Duty, Halo, etc., would prefer the Vizio IMO. Hard core gamers would even find it hard to live with the Vizio's 30ms lag to be truthful since dedicated computer monitors can go as low as 10ms. It all depends what game you're playing and how hard core you are.
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Well for first person shooter games, 44ms of lag is problematic. For other more sedate games, it might not really matter. The Samsung has better motion control for gaming which is why Rtings rated it better for gaming. But a serious gamer playing on-line first person shooter titles like Call of Duty, Halo, etc., would prefer the Vizio IMO. Hard core gamers would even find it hard to live with the Vizio's 30ms lag to be truthful since dedicated computer monitors can go as low as 10ms. It all depends what game you're playing and how hard core you are.
That's a good point to consider.

My main games are CoD, Halo 5, and Halo MCC. That's why part of me wants to get the Visio, but it's hard to value the tradeoff of if I really care that much about input lag over better TV overall for non gaming.

I get that 29-30ms is better than 40, but I wonder if it's even worth it.

Like if it's not 5-10 ms, at that point they are both going to be somewhat problematic.
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I'm looking to upgrade and would like the help of you experts . I have about a 10 year old 55 inch 1080i Mitsu RPT currently and would like to upgrade to newer technology. I'd like to stay below $1,000 but would consider a bit more if necessary. I will be watching sports mostly (along with broadcast TV) and hooking an XBox One up to the TV. I'm not a hardcore gamer so I don't have to have the "best" gaming TV. It will be going in a basement with no windows so lighting is completely controlled. We will be sitting around 12 feet from the TV.

I have it narrowed down (I think) to 3 sets and they're all Vizios.

1. The 60 inch Vizio M Series - 4K, one of the best rated TVs I can find. Dell is running a Black Friday deal on this set for $799.
2. The 65 inch Vizio D Series (2016) - can't find any reviews on this as it seems it is a 2016 model. Also 4K. Sam's is running a special on 11/14 on this set for $999.
3. The 65 inch Vizio E Series - not 4K. Can't find any specials coming up for it but currently running $950.

So, do I go with the better TV (M series) with less screen for $150-$200 less money or invest in more screen (sacrificing quality) for the extra $? And if the latter, would you recommend the D series considering the lack of information currently available?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Same here. I am between Sam's 65" Vizio for $999 or Costco Samsung 65" for $1200. The Costco special will be $700 off which seems like a decent deal, but the Vizio is a newer TV and a bit cheaper.

I will be mostly watching blurays or stream via HTPC.

Any input is appreciated.
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Same here. I am between Sam's 65" Vizio for $999 or Costco Samsung 65" for $1200. The Costco special will be $700 off which seems like a decent deal, but the Vizio is a newer TV and a bit cheaper.

I will be mostly watching blurays or stream via HTPC.

Any input is appreciated.
And now I see that Wal-Mart is going to run the E70 for $898 on BF. Can't believe I'm stressing out this much over which TV to buy. Right now I'm down to the M60 for the better picture and 4K for $799 or the E70 for the larger screen for $898. Be sitting about 13-14 feet away.

Really wish I could find a deal on the M65. Seems like a great compromise. $1500 everywhere at the moment though and I've not seen any BF deals announced for it yet.
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Oh wow... I was about to buy the Sony XBR55X810C this morning, and I noticed that the price is $100 higher than the last time I looked at it a few days ago....

... do people think the price will go down again? Should I wait until next week and see if the price goes back down?
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Oh also... does anyone have any experience with the extended warranty plan sold on TV's by Newegg?

It appears to be serviced by "AIG Extended Warranties"...

I'm thinking about this because my three year old TV just broke, the board fried out for some reason...

... if I bought the 4 year extended warranty from newegg for $175 and my TV broke would they really fix it quickly and at no cost to me? Or is it yet another one of those take your money and run warranty scams?
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I'm looking to upgrade and would like the help of you experts . I have about a 10 year old 55 inch 1080i Mitsu RPT currently and would like to upgrade to newer technology. I'd like to stay below $1,000 but would consider a bit more if necessary. I will be watching sports mostly (along with broadcast TV) and hooking an XBox One up to the TV. I'm not a hardcore gamer so I don't have to have the "best" gaming TV. It will be going in a basement with no windows so lighting is completely controlled. We will be sitting around 12 feet from the TV.

I have it narrowed down (I think) to 3 sets and they're all Vizios.

1. The 60 inch Vizio M Series - 4K, one of the best rated TVs I can find. Dell is running a Black Friday deal on this set for $799.
2. The 65 inch Vizio D Series (2016) - can't find any reviews on this as it seems it is a 2016 model. Also 4K. Sam's is running a special on 11/14 on this set for $999.
3. The 65 inch Vizio E Series - not 4K. Can't find any specials coming up for it but currently running $950.

So, do I go with the better TV (M series) with less screen for $150-$200 less money or invest in more screen (sacrificing quality) for the extra $? And if the latter, would you recommend the D series considering the lack of information currently available?

Thanks in advance for your help.
I think the M series would be the best bet. Smaller but sharper screen.
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And now I see that Wal-Mart is going to run the E70 for $898 on BF. Can't believe I'm stressing out this much over which TV to buy. Right now I'm down to the M60 for the better picture and 4K for $799 or the E70 for the larger screen for $898. Be sitting about 13-14 feet away.

Really wish I could find a deal on the M65. Seems like a great compromise. $1500 everywhere at the moment though and I've not seen any BF deals announced for it yet.
Damn, that Dell M60 is really tempting now.
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And now I see that Wal-Mart is going to run the E70 for $898 on BF. Can't believe I'm stressing out this much over which TV to buy. Right now I'm down to the M60 for the better picture and 4K for $799 or the E70 for the larger screen for $898. Be sitting about 13-14 feet away.

Really wish I could find a deal on the M65. Seems like a great compromise. $1500 everywhere at the moment though and I've not seen any BF deals announced for it yet.
The picture will not be better from 13-14 feet, only smaller. A 10" larger screen is a whole lot more impressive than a much smaller 4k resolution. especially with little to no 4k material.
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