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6. Take it back - Its another 60 Hz Samsung judder box.
I have the 6290 and while I admit that on "some" content (far from all content), there is some judder which is correctable with a bit of motion control (but just a little so that I don't get that dreaded SOE), calling it the queen of judder or a judder box is a bit of an over exaggeration. It's not perfect but at 500 dollars, it's got to be the steal of the century.

The one thing that I really miss, however, is full HDR capability. THAT I wish I had.
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OK, here's what I think. Take it or leave it.

1. No - The UH8500 is fairly dull with poor black levels but a wider viewing angle.
2. No - Same as above just bigger and more expensive.
3. No - The KU7000 is usual 60 Hz Samsung judder machine and not even as bright as the cheaper KU6300 judder queen.
4. Maybe - You like your Sony 850C but it's kind of boring to have two of the same.
5. Yes - The Sony 930D would be my choice since it is the best set in your list.
6. Take it back - Its another 60 Hz Samsung judder box.
I appreciate the advice. Something not on my list I should be considering

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I have the 6290 and while I admit that on "some" content (far from all content), there is some judder which is correctable with a bit of motion control (but just a little so that I don't get that dreaded SOE), calling it the queen of judder or a judder box is a bit of an over exaggeration. It's not perfect but at 500 dollars, it's got to be the steal of the century.

The one thing that I really miss, however, is full HDR capability. THAT I wish I had.
I thought it was a great deal to but these seem be selling often for around $500 now.
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I have the 6290 and while I admit that on "some" content (far from all content), there is some judder which is correctable with a bit of motion control (but just a little so that I don't get that dreaded SOE), calling it the queen of judder or a judder box is a bit of an over exaggeration. It's not perfect but at 500 dollars, it's got to be the steal of the century.

The one thing that I really miss, however, is full HDR capability. THAT I wish I had.
I was specifically calling out Samsung on the 24p performance of their 60 Hz budget sets, which they should be embarrassed about. There's no reason for it other than they just don't give a damn. And having dealt with Samsung on other elements of their product line, I can tell you from experience that they don't care one bit about their customers or customer service. But, if you don't watch Blu-rays or other 24p movie content, yeah then it's fine. But if you do, its a judder box.
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I appreciate the advice. Something not on my list I should be considering.
Well you listed at the top the of your post the 60" Samsung KS8000. A pretty narrow viewing angle (it has a different panel than the other KS8000 sizes), but a good performer all around. 120 Hz Samsungs don't suffer any judder woes and have decent brightness and black levels. So you could consider that one too.
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Well you listed at the top the of your post the 60" Samsung KS8000. A pretty narrow viewing angle (it has a different panel than the other KS8000 sizes), but a good performer all around. 120 Hz Samsungs don't suffer any judder woes and have decent brightness and black levels. So you could consider that one too.
What panel does the KS 8000 60" have? Panel in 55 and 65? You like it better than the 850c or a scratch and dent 930d?

Pretty small room the tv will be in plus I don't have any issues with the sony 850c viewing angle. Samsung is probably as good? I just would really like to create a real movie effect in the room since it is very dark.

I guess I keep bringing in Sony because I like android TV but I am sure Samsung Tizen is fine.
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I thought it was a great deal to but these seem be selling often for around $500 now.
They're back up to 799 at every place I looked including BestBuy. Sure glad I picked mine up at the 499 price point.

Buying a TV is like playing the commodities market. hehe...
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Vizio M80-D3 or Sony 940D
Ok guys I need your input. I've spent countless hours doing research on this two TVs and nee your opinion. I mainly watch TV of my hopper 3/sports/TV shows/HBO, some netflix/amazon and alike streaming services, some gaming mainly FPS(goes in waves sometimes I spend a lot of time on it others I just don't touch it for a month xbox one). That's about the extent of my TV usage. My previous (TVVIZIO M801d-A3R) suffered an accident that cracked the screen so I'm force to upgrade.

I watch from 11' away in a medium light room day time and can be pretty dark at night.

I believe the picture will definitely be better on the Sony but I'm wondering whether that difference is enough to justify going 5" smaller(remember I'm coming from an 80" TV. I have the Vizio at home already and although it is a nice upgrade over my old TV I don't really like the streamcast. I could get use to it I guess, but I much rather the old vizio interface.
I did look at a 940D at the store and obviously the picture was amazing. But I don't know how much of a benefit I'd get when it comes to watching at home regular programming. It is my understanding that the conversion is better on the Sony. The Vizio isn't bad but It isn't that much better than my old Vizio unless you are streaming or Casting.

The Sony I can get for $500 more than the Vizio but financing offer is much better on the Sony so by the time is all done an dust it cost will be about the same.
If you guys can offer another option over 75" with bellow $5000 price point I would also consider it. Thanks for the input ahead of time.
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What panel does the KS 8000 60" have? Panel in 55 and 65? You like it better than the 850c or a scratch and dent 930d?

Pretty small room the tv will be in plus I don't have any issues with the sony 850c viewing angle. Samsung is probably as good? I just would really like to create a real movie effect in the room since it is very dark.

I guess I keep bringing in Sony because I like android TV but I am sure Samsung Tizen is fine.
The 55" (UN55KS8000) and 65" (UN65KS8000) models reportedly can have version FA01 or version AA02 panels. The 60" (UN60KS8000) has version a EA01 panel, with a narrower viewing angle and a thicker bezel. My guess is that for the 55" and 65" sets, the FA01 is a Samsung panel and the AA02 is AU Optronics; for the 60", the EA01 is probably a Sharp panel. Sony doesn't manufacture any of the own panels.

The Samsung UN60KS8000 is clearly a better set than the 2015 Sony 850C and comparable in performance to the larger 2016 Sony XBR65X930D.
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Vizio M80-D3 or Sony 940D
Ok guys I need your input. I've spent countless hours doing research on this two TVs and nee your opinion. I mainly watch TV of my hopper 3/sports/TV shows/HBO, some netflix/amazon and alike streaming services, some gaming mainly FPS(goes in waves sometimes I spend a lot of time on it others I just don't touch it for a month xbox one). That's about the extent of my TV usage. My previous (TVVIZIO M801d-A3R) suffered an accident that cracked the screen so I'm force to upgrade.

I watch from 11' away in a medium light room day time and can be pretty dark at night.

I believe the picture will definitely be better on the Sony but I'm wondering whether that difference is enough to justify going 5" smaller(remember I'm coming from an 80" TV. I have the Vizio at home already and although it is a nice upgrade over my old TV I don't really like the streamcast. I could get use to it I guess, but I much rather the old vizio interface.
I did look at a 940D at the store and obviously the picture was amazing. But I don't know how much of a benefit I'd get when it comes to watching at home regular programming. It is my understanding that the conversion is better on the Sony. The Vizio isn't bad but It isn't that much better than my old Vizio unless you are streaming or Casting.

The Sony I can get for $500 more than the Vizio but financing offer is much better on the Sony so by the time is all done an dust it cost will be about the same.
If you guys can offer another option over 75" with bellow $5000 price point I would also consider it. Thanks for the input ahead of time.
Seems as if you should stick with the 80" Vizio that you already have. It's the size you're used to (hard to go smaller), it's better for gaming than the Sony, you say like it, and you'll eventually get used to streamcast. The Sony does have better upscaling than Vizio, but do you want to go smaller, and have worse input lag during your gaming "waves"?
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Seems as if you should stick with the 80" Vizio that you already have. It's the size you're used to (hard to go smaller), it's better for gaming than the Sony, you say like it, and you'll eventually get used to streamcast. The Sony does have better upscaling than Vizio, but do you want to go smaller, and have worse input lag during your gaming "waves"?
Yes I agree with all your points. As far as upscaling Do you know if the difference is considerable or not enough to grant consideration of the smaller TV?

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Yes I agree with all your points. As far as upscaling Do you know if the difference is considerable or not enough to grant consideration of the smaller TV?

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The Vizio is fine for upscaling native 1080p content, but is not crystal clear when upscaling 720p cable signals. Since you have the Vizio M now, look for yourself and see if its OK for you.
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The 55" (UN55KS8000) and 65" (UN65KS8000) models reportedly can have version FA01 or version AA02 panels. The 60" (UN60KS8000) has version a EA01 panel, with a narrower viewing angle and a thicker bezel. My guess is that for the 55" and 65" sets, the FA01 is a Samsung panel and the AA02 is AU Optronics; for the 60", the EA01 is probably a Sharp panel. Sony doesn't manufacture any of the own panels.

The Samsung UN60KS8000 is clearly a better set than the 2015 Sony 850C and comparable in performance to the larger 2016 Sony XBR65X930D.
Thanks again. I will most likely eventually get the KS8000 for the main living area to replace the 850c since 60 is the maximum size. I do have a Frys nearby that has the 65" KS 8500 for $1199 (Frys is paying the tax right now.) I realize it is the same TV as the 8000 but with a curve. Did not really want a curved TV but at a 6' viewing distance and the room is only 10' wide, and extremely dark for movies. The curve may add a cool effect right and off angle viewing will not be an issue since room is so small right?

1. Is the new 65 KS8500 at $1200 a better buy than the refurb 65 Sony 930d, but with 2 year square trade at $1000?
2. Is the new 65 KS8500 $680 better than the the 55 KU6290?

and the big one...

3. Is a LG OLED 65 C6P $1600 better than the other 65" TV's i have mentioned.

Really considering the 2016 OLED's simply for the passive 3D in that really dark room. I have a 4 year old son and really expect to dive into all the Star Wars Movies with him in the next few years and trying to create a pretty awesome set up in that room.

On the other hand, Not sure we will be in that room watching movies as much as we think and didn't want to over spend on a limited use room. Also, not sure how many 3D BLU Rays they are going to keep releasing?
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Thanks again. I will most likely eventually get the KS8000 for the main living area to replace the 850c since 60 is the maximum size. I do have a Frys nearby that has the 65" KS 8500 for $1199 (Frys is paying the tax right now.) I realize it is the same TV as the 8000 but with a curve. Did not really want a curved TV but at a 6' viewing distance and the room is only 10' wide, and extremely dark for movies. The curve may add a cool effect right and off angle viewing will not be an issue since room is so small right?

1. Is the new 65 KS8500 at $1200 a better buy than the refurb 65 Sony 930d, but with 2 year square trade at $1000?
2. Is the new 65 KS8500 $680 better than the the 55 KU6290?

and the big one...

3. Is a LG OLED 65 C6P $1600 better than the other 65" TV's i have mentioned.

Really considering the 2016 OLED's simply for the passive 3D in that really dark room. I have a 4 year old son and really expect to dive into all the Star Wars Movies with him in the next few years and trying to create a pretty awesome set up in that room.

On the other hand, Not sure we will be in that room watching movies as much as we think and didn't want to over spend on a limited use room. Also, not sure how many 3D BLU Rays they are going to keep releasing?
1. Is the new 65 KS8500 at $1200 a better buy than the refurb 65 Sony 930d, but with 2 year square trade at $1000?
IMO the curve works best in a corner location or if your only seating is directly in front. I would pick new over a refurb if your credit card ups your warranty to 2 years.

2. Is the new 65 KS8500 $680 better than the the 55 KU6290?
Its your money. Personally I could not live with a Samsung 60 Hz panel with 24p judder.

3. Is a LG OLED 65 C6P $1600 better than the other 65" TV's i have mentioned.
Being an old plasma guy, I'd go for OLED over any LCD if I had the cash to spend. If I didn't have to pay Federal Income Tax this year, I'd be down at my local Microcenter store buying their open box LG 65B6P for 2,339.96 plus tax!
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1. Is the new 65 KS8500 at $1200 a better buy than the refurb 65 Sony 930d, but with 2 year square trade at $1000?
IMO the curve works best in a corner location or if your only seating is directly in front. I would pick new over a refurb if your credit card ups your warranty to 2 years.

2. Is the new 65 KS8500 $680 better than the the 55 KU6290?
Its your money. Personally I could not live with a Samsung 60 Hz panel with 24p judder.

3. Is a LG OLED 65 C6P $1600 better than the other 65" TV's i have mentioned.
Being an old plasma guy, I'd go for OLED over any LCD if I had the cash to spend. If I didn't have to pay Federal Income Tax this year, I'd be down at my local Microcenter store buying their open box LG 65B6P for 2,339.96 plus tax!
I am probably testing your patience but what about going 55" C6/B6 OLED in that room? Probably $200 - $400 more than the 65" mentioned earlier. Room is probably only 11 x 11. Also, the LG curve on the C6 seems to be so minor it would be fine in the middle of the room right? Allows me to get 3D where B6 doesn't. Quality outweigh Quantity in this scenario?
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I am probably testing your patience but what about going 55" C6/B6 OLED in that room? Probably $200 - $400 more than the 65" mentioned earlier. Room is probably only 11 x 11. Also, the LG curve on the C6 seems to be so minor it would be fine in the middle of the room right? Allows me to get 3D where B6 doesn't. Quality outweigh Quantity in this scenario?
If you really want 3D, then it's between the 55" LG C6 OLED and the 65" refurb Sony 930D as Samsung doesn't do 3D. The LG is the better choice for that since no glasses are required and the 65" Sony does need them and is reported to have noticeable crosstalk. In an 11" room, allowing for clearance to the TV and couch, you will be closer to 10 feet. Or you could move the couch closer. The curve on an OLED isn't as problematic as it is for an LCD since the viewing angle is unlimited like an old plasma. I'd at least go to look at the OLED and see what you think. Its not like you would be moving down is size since you're used to that 55" 850C at about the same distance.
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If you really want 3D, then it's between the 55" LG C6 OLED and the 65" refurb Sony 930D as Samsung doesn't do 3D. The LG is the better choice for that since no glasses are required and the 65" Sony does need them and is reported to have noticeable crosstalk. In an 11" room, allowing for clearance to the TV and couch, you will be closer to 10 feet. Or you could move the couch closer. The curve on an OLED isn't as problematic as it is for an LCD since the viewing angle is unlimited like an old plasma. I'd at least go to look at the OLED and see what you think. Its not like you would be moving down is size since you're used to that 55" 850C at about the same distance.
More great points. Thanks. I went and measured room. It is 10'6" x 12'. With The TV on the stand and couch against wall probably about 8' 6" from TV unless I move couch up.

I measured family room seating distance from the 55 850C as well. I actually sit 14' back from it and the bottom of it is 4' off the floor. The new TV will be about 2' off the floor in media room.

Oh, I have looked at OLED and it does look better but does it look 20% smaller better in 55 vs 65?
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There are no good 1080p sets anymore, they are all bargain mediocre ones. Good luck with your search.
I feel like this comment is too trenchant to be convincing, but thanks anyway for the previous one.
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Hello! I am looking for a TV that meets the following parameters. I began this search a few months ago and had a few models looked OK, but unfortunately lost the information.

Budget - Max $10,000 - less is always preferred

Light conditions - direct sunlight by day, dark room by night (so easily adjustable brightness or auto brightness a plus, matte finished preferred)

Screen size: minimum 75"; 85"+ strongly preferred

Must-have technology: 2160p60 "4k" (with HDCP 2.2 support), 3D (passive preferred), 1080p120 input (for 120hz 2d / 60hz 3d gaming on PC) - do not care about input format (HDMI / DVI / Display-Port)

Warranty: 2+ years

Do not care about "Smart TV" features (will be hooked into home theater PC), audio capability, number of inputs, or similar.

I am not completely opposed to a projector however the lighting situation makes me very concerned about daytime viewing, and the mounting would be very complicated (could be no farther than 8' from the wall due to ceiling fan, requiring an extremely wide lens and tons of keystone correction)

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The Vizio is fine for upscaling native 1080p content, but is not crystal clear when upscaling 720p cable signals. Since you have the Vizio M now, look for yourself and see if its OK for you.
Yeah I've been watching closely for the PQ on regular programing. While it is better than my old Vizio maybe I had too high/unfair expectations for the set. Some channels the quality is very decent some are pretty underwhelming. The problem is I don't have anything to compare it too. While I understand that upscaling is not a perfect solution to the poor quality signal of some providers I'd like to have a reference point. I know it's kind of hard. And subjectivity in this mater is another issue. Would love to see a 940D upscaling regular cable content. The store had a thumb drive that they plugged into the 940D and it was supposed to be 1080 but I have issues trusting stores and salespeople.
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For some odd reason, I found that statement quite amusing. Guess it's because of my very limited resources.
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Smaller 4k TV?

I'm looking for a 32 - 42 inch 4k TV. It will be used mostly as PC monitor and streaming Netflix to it.

I'd really like it to have FALD and Dolby Vision.

1. Budget

> 600

2. Seating distance

5 feet,

It seems choices are really limited in the smaller sizes.
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I'm looking for a 32 - 42 inch 4k TV. It will be used mostly as PC monitor and streaming Netflix to it.

I'd really like it to have FALD and Dolby Vision.

1. Budget

> 600

2. Seating distance

5 feet,

It seems choices are really limited in the smaller sizes.
There's nothing out there that meets those requirements. No 32" to 43" small sets support Dolby Vision, and the older model Vizio's that have FALD only have a few zones anyway. If you go up to 50", there's the Vizio P50-C1 with decent FALD and Dolby Vision support for around $900 at Costco.
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There's nothing out there that meets those requirements. No 32" to 43" small sets support Dolby Vision
Thanks.... I had not been able to find any and was thinking I wasn't looking hard enough. I do like the Vizio P series and will probably get the 65 or 75 soon as my main TV. This smaller TV I shopping for today though is for the coffee table and 43" is really my limit.

If I omit DolbyVision are there any FALD in a 43 or smaller size?
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Thanks.... I had not been able to find any and was thinking I wasn't looking hard enough. I do like the Vizio P series and will probably get the 65 or 75 soon as my main TV. This smaller TV I shopping for today though is for the coffee table and 43" is really my limit.

If I omit DolbyVision are there any FALD in a 43 or smaller size?
For FALD there are only Vizio 1080P models, so no 4K and no HDR as far as I'm aware.

Vizio 32" to 43" FALD TVs
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For some odd reason, I found that statement quite amusing. Guess it's because of my very limited resources.
I am fortunate in some regards and not in others. Even so, while I wouldn't call it an irresponsible purchase, my funds are not so ample where I can disregard attempting to purchase a set that provides good value for the money. I'm willing to pay what I need to get the "right set" and avoid compromise, but I don't want to spend more than I need.


I will be convalescing from surgery in around 2 weeks. This process will last 4-6 weeks. I'd like to upgrade form my current set to something more substantial, as I will be spending a fair amount of time in front of it. My search started with the LG 86UH9500 however several reviews say the 3D is very poor quality (several people called the 3D a downgrade from their older sets) and the spec sheet does not list 1080p120 as a supported input. Then I came across the XBR85X850D and the Visio M. I know enough to be dangerous, and a lot of insiders know things worth considering / looking out for that I might not be aware of. So any thoughts, or pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
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I am fortunate in some regards and not in others. Even so, while I wouldn't call it an irresponsible purchase, my funds are not so ample where I can disregard attempting to purchase a set that provides good value for the money. I'm willing to pay what I need to get the "right set" and avoid compromise, but I don't want to spend more than I need.


I will be convalescing from surgery in around 2 weeks. This process will last 4-6 weeks. I'd like to upgrade form my current set to something more substantial, as I will be spending a fair amount of time in front of it. My search started with the LG 86UH9500 however several reviews say the 3D is very poor quality (several people called the 3D a downgrade from their older sets) and the spec sheet does not list 1080p120 as a supported input. Then I came across the XBR85X850D and the Visio M. I know enough to be dangerous, and a lot of insiders know things worth considering / looking out for that I might not be aware of. So any thoughts, or pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
The problem with the LG is that it's an IPS display with only edge-dimming, meaning night-time viewing is going to suffer from very poor blacks. The 850D only has global panel dimming, again, bad for getting the most of your set for dark room viewing. The Vizio M has a relatively modest full-array backlight, but no wide color gamut support and a relatively low max brightness, meaning it's not going to help you get the most out of any HDR content.

There aren't a lot of great options for quality TVs in the 85" size. Samsung's 88" KS9800 is probably the best in that range, but it's well over your budget. The LeEco UMAX 85" is a full FALD TV with a lot of great features, but there was a pretty significant backlog waiting for shipments a few weeks ago, maybe that's changed now, worth reading up in the owner's thread. It's the strongest value in an 85" set.

If you go 75" the best LCD on the market right now is the Sony ZD9, it does just about everything right, though the 3D is active. Since everyone has dropped 3D as a feature this year in their new lines for 2017 who knows if they're even going to keep releasing 3D blu-rays though, so whether or not that's a major thing for you is something to consider.

I'd also reconsider on the importance of the smart TV platform. To enjoy streamed 4K HDR content at its best you need to either use the internal apps or a connected smart device with HDR compatibility like a Roku Ultra, Nvidia Shield, Playstation 4 Pro, or Xbox One S. Having it built-in is convenient and saves on device clutter. Obviously for 4K disc-based content you'd need to get a UHD Blu-Ray player, and there are a number of good options out now or coming to market soon.

I know you mentioned you're planning on using an HTPC, and it's been a while since I've followed developments there, but if things are the same the last I looked, you're not going to be able to get HDR for most content through an HTPC, and HDR is a huge benefit with these new TVs.
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Question LG 49" 1080p vs Hisense 50" 4k vs Hisense 50" 1080p Roku TV

I'm looking to buy a smart TV. Right now I just have a 40" Sceptre 1080p LCD. I've read that LG are one of the most reliable LED and good smart OS. I've also read that Hisense smart functions are not good and slow. Would a Hisense with Roku be any better?

Which one of these would you buy? I just want a smart TV that has a bigger screen than what I have.

LG 49LH570A - $299 Best Buy

Hisense 50H6C - $329 Best Buy

Hisense 50H4C - $299 Walmart

Thank you!

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There aren't a lot of great options for quality TVs in the 85" size. Samsung's 88" KS9800 is probably the best in that range, but it's well over your budget.
Eeek $20k is definitely out of my range. They have a 78" that's right at $10k, though. It's a lot of money for something that's on the smaller end of the size range, but if the picture quality is there I'm not opposed to it. Thoughts on that?

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The LeEco UMAX 85" is a full FALD TV with a lot of great features, but there was a pretty significant backlog waiting for shipments a few weeks ago, maybe that's changed now, worth reading up in the owner's thread. It's the strongest value in an 85" set.
I'll definitely check that out.

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If you go 75" the best LCD on the market right now is the Sony ZD9, it does just about everything right, though the 3D is active.
At $9k it's pricy for the size but a contender. Active 3D isn't a dealbreaker if the quality is there (good on crosstalk, etc). How does it compare to the Samsung KS9800?

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Since everyone has dropped 3D as a feature this year in their new lines for 2017 who knows if they're even going to keep releasing 3D blu-rays though, so whether or not that's a major thing for you is something to consider.
It's a good point. However 50%+ of my 3D use will be gaming. I've got 3D capable monitor and enjoy 3D gaming. I know the world is rapidly moving towards VR gaming instead of "just" 3D, but I enjoy traditional controls. The idea would be a living room set that lets me do 60fps 3D gaming with my gaming PC (which requires 120hz input). Being able to watch 3D movies is just a nice bonus.


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I'd also reconsider on the importance of the smart TV platform. To enjoy streamed 4K HDR content at its best you need to either use the internal apps or a connected smart device with HDR compatibility like a Roku Ultra, Nvidia Shield, Playstation 4 Pro, or Xbox One S. Having it built-in is convenient and saves on device clutter. Obviously for 4K disc-based content you'd need to get a UHD Blu-Ray player, and there are a number of good options out now or coming to market soon.
After the news a few years ago of TV's "spying" on users (stories like [Can't post URL's because my account is too new - but Google Samsung Smart TV's phoning home in 2005]) I made the decision to only use displays passively. Right now I've got a PS4 (non pro) and an Amazon Fire TV (which I use for netflix + hulu + prime TV), along with a slew of older devices - backwards compatible PS3, xbox 360, Wii, Gamecube, etc. I have them all on a power strip and make sure they're 100% de-powered when not in use. I realize I'll probably need a newer device for 4k / HDR content, but right now the goal is to simply be compatible. If it costs me an extra $200 to know my TV isn't spying on me, so be it. I'm probably being unnecessarily paranoid, but the tradeoff cost doesn't seem that great.

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I know you mentioned you're planning on using an HTPC, and it's been a while since I've followed developments there, but if things are the same the last I looked, you're not going to be able to get HDR for most content through an HTPC, and HDR is a huge benefit with these new TVs.
My HTPC is quite legacy. I've got over 10TB of recorded TV shows in Windows Media Center on Win7. I got the HdHomeRun Prime as soon as it came out, and had a PCI Express CableCard tuner that came with a Sony pre-built HTPC before that. I've got NO IDEA what I'm going to do when Media Center / CableCard finally stops being supported, but, that's a conversation for another thread. HDR content will be nice, but I'd say roughly half my recorded content is SD - so I'm not used to the highest of quality.

And finally - thanks for the reply! Lots of quality feedback for me to ponder!
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Hi, all. Struggling to decide between the Vizio P65, Samsung KS8000 and Sony 930d

1. My budget is from 1500-2200
2. I will be sitting 6 feet away from the TV
3. I can fit up to a 65" TV
4. I will be watching Blu-Rays, AppleTV and playing Playstation 4 Pro on it. Also soon to get a Nintendo Switch as well.
5. Dark room

Please any help would be appreciated I am pulling my hair out.
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Ok , So i had a Sony 55" 810C , Gave it to my mom since the baby broke the living room one .
Now i want a upgrade, 65" .
I'm thinking on buying Sharp Aquos 65N9000U, 65H8C, 65CU6200 or wait for UN65KS8000 to go on sale.
Apparently March 'll have new tvs .
I just want a upgrade from 810c, if 65H8c is considered a upgrade i'll probably buy it.
This is for TV series & movies.


Budget 700-1200
Seating distance: not sure but i'm set on 65"
Room lighting: a lot of light during the day time.
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