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I had a post here and it seems like it got deleted (??) so I'll try again. Maybe I should follow the instructions on the first page.

1. Budget
$2000CAD (which is about $1500US)
2. Seating distance
8-9ft
3. Size/placement limitations
I am pretty settled on a 65" set. I was considering 55" so I could afford an OLED
4. Uses and sources
A lot of streaming: Netflix, Hulu, iTunes movies (I already have many in 4K), satellite dish for sports, and some UHD discs will be used as well.
5. Room lighting
Room is on the main floor with a couple north-facing windows with curtains. There is plenty of natural light but we do most of our viewing in the evening/night time hours.

I think I'm down to the following options:
Vizio P Quantum for $1979 + 13% sales tax
Sony X900F for $1799 + 13% sales tax
55" LG C8 for $1799 + 13% tax


I don't what to do!
Skip the OLED. We still don't know how long they'll last, and the extra 10" of LCD screen size will more than offset any OLED image quality advantage at that distance. (FWIW, my 65" DLP set recently died, and I moved the 50" plasma from my bedroom to the TV room while I decide what to get. The image is gorgeous, but I don't always notice that from my normal viewing distance. I can't wait to replace it with a 75" LCD that probably looks *almost* as good.)

Vizio vs. Sony. . .both those sets are pretty popular. The Vizio is brighter; the Sony is less likely to have issues and will probably last longer. Ideally, you can find them both in a store and see which one you personally like better. If you can't, I'd probably lean toward the Sony for the extra $180 to spend on your audio system (or on movies if you're set for audio).
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1. Budget
$2000CAD (which is about $1500US)
Panasonic 65" 4K PRO HDR (TC65FX800)

$1798/Visions.ca

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Panasonic 65" 4K PRO HDR (TC65FX800)

$1798/Visions.ca
I love Panasonic, but I'd like to get a set that supports Dolby Vision as I've built a substantial iTunes collection of DV titles and even bought a UHD disc player that supports DV.
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I love Panasonic, but I'd like to get a set that supports Dolby Vision as I've built a substantial iTunes collection of DV titles and even bought a UHD disc player that supports DV.
Excepting Vizio, you can side-by-side at Visions, and use your material.

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looking for good upscaler for parents. they mainly watch direct tv and stream youtube
went to best buy today and looked at sony 900f and new 950


the rep said the 950 has superior upscaler and hdr would look similar on both models.
so im thinking about the 950 if it goes on sale
thoughts?
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surprised costco has the sony 850G, or any sony for that matter,


Budget, $1300-$1800
65 inch
seating 8-10 feet
sports, regular tv, streaming
lighting medium dark


I do like the 950g cheaper of course. the 850G a bit lower quality edgelit.
or I'll wait for the Vizio Pqx
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Good afternoon, everyone. This is yet another "What should I get" posting in this thread.

Originally I was looking at either a Sony XBR65X850F or Samsung 65NU8000F, since they are about as close in price and features that I wanted.

Now, I thought that if I increase my budget, that the Samsung QN65Q8FN may be something I should look at.

Is the Q8 $1kCDN better than the NU8000? My room is a basement, it will be used primarily for sports, movies, and streaming. We do have a large window, but it has pretty good blinds on it for light control.

Anything else I should look at in that price range?
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Good afternoon, everyone. This is yet another "What should I get" posting in this thread.

Originally I was looking at either a Sony XBR65X850F or Samsung 65NU8000F, since they are about as close in price and features that I wanted.

Now, I thought that if I increase my budget, that the Samsung QN65Q8FN may be something I should look at.

Is the Q8 $1kCDN better than the NU8000? My room is a basement, it will be used primarily for sports, movies, and streaming. We do have a large window, but it has pretty good blinds on it for light control.

Anything else I should look at in that price range?
The Q8 is a good bit better than the NU8000 or X850
this may help you,
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...&threshold=0.1
I own the NU8000 and am very happy with it but if i had the cash at the time of purchase i would have chose the Q8 without hesitation.

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Good afternoon, everyone. This is yet another "What should I get" posting in this thread.
Originally I was looking at either a Sony XBR65X850F or Samsung 65NU8000F, since they are about as close in price and features that I wanted.
Now, I thought that if I increase my budget, that the Samsung QN65Q8FN may be something I should look at.
Is the Q8 $1kCDN better than the NU8000? My room is a basement, it will be used primarily for sports, movies, and streaming. We do have a large window, but it has pretty good blinds on it for light control.
Anything else I should look at in that price range?
Sony X950G.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...-x950g/598/764

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Help selecting 65” TV for bedroom
Currently have a Vizio M50-E1 50” TV in the bedroom. We are building a new house and since we do watch a decent amount of tv in the bedroom looking for a 65” tv. Currently looking at the following but looking for some advise. Looking to spend 600-700. Thanks.

Samsung NU7100
LG 6090PUA
Vizio E65-F1
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Help selecting 65” TV for bedroom
Currently have a Vizio M50-E1 50” TV in the bedroom. We are building a new house and since we do watch a decent amount of tv in the bedroom looking for a 65” tv. Currently looking at the following but looking for some advise. Looking to spend 600-700. Thanks.

Samsung NU7100
LG 6090PUA
Vizio E65-F1
For that budget range, probably stay with Vizio, Vizio E65-F1. Movies, TV shows.

Coupla hun more would give you a better Vizio M Series experience. Better local dimming, blacks.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/65-inch

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Hey looking for a top of the line 65" LED and want to stay around $2,000 for the purchase if possible. Right now I'm between the Sony and Samsung models listed below...


Samsung QN65Q70RAFXZA

Sony XBR65X900F

Sony XBR-65X950G


The 2019 models are both over $2,000 vs the 900F which is selling for around $500 less on amazon. I mainly use the TV for sports, video games (casual not competitive) and the occasional 4k movie/tv show.
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I have a Samsung UN60F7100AF. It was a solid HD TV in its time. For normal HD (non-4k) streaming sources, will I see any better quality with a more modern tv like Vizio M or the TCL 6?

1. Budget

$1,100

2. Seating distance

8-10ft

3. Size/placement limitations

70-inch max.

4. Uses and sources

Direct TV Now, Netflix, HBO Go (Game of Thrones)

5. Room lighting

Lights on for normal TV, off for movies and GOT.

Aperion Verus Grand Bookshelf L/R
Aperion Verus Grand Center Channel
Aperion Verus Forte Satellite
SVS PB-1000
Denon X3400 / LG C8 65inch OLED / ATV4K

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Hey looking for a top of the line 65" LED and want to stay around $2,000 for the purchase if possible. Right now I'm between the Sony and Samsung models listed below...


Samsung QN65Q70RAFXZA

Sony XBR65X900F

Sony XBR-65X950G


The 2019 models are both over $2,000 vs the 900F which is selling for around $500 less on amazon. I mainly use the TV for sports, video games (casual not competitive) and the occasional 4k movie/tv show.
Either Sony. Close in comparison. FWIW X950G has Ultimate Processor, eARC.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...-x950g/585/764

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I have a Samsung UN60F7100AF. It was a solid HD TV in its time. For normal HD (non-4k) streaming sources, will I see any better quality with a more modern tv like Vizio M or the TCL 6?
For you and your eyes to decide.

This side by side comparison favors TCL 6.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...s-2018/613/624

Individual rating:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...ries-r617-2018

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/m-series-2018

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I know the Vizio and the TCL are very close. What I am trying to understand is for regular HD, non-4k content, are the features of both of these TVs noticeably superior to my current TV.

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1. Budget

$1000...Not sure if this is too low. Let me know if it is so I can re-evaluate.

2. Seating distance

14-feet

3. Size/placement limitations

No limitations. I have a wide TV stand so I will let it stand instead of mounting it on the wall.

4. Uses and sources

Laptop connected via HDMI connection to stream stuffs, watch local TVs, etc.

5. Room lighting

Surrounded by windows so tons of lights.


Note:

I am looking at this TV (https://www.costco.com/LG-70%22-Clas...100412287.html) and general consumer feedback are good. Considering the viewing distance, I'd like to go big.

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Hey everyone. Its been about 5 years or so since Ive been looking for a new set and have decided to start looking again.

My current set is a Vizio Mseries ( m701d-a3 ) that I paid over $2000 for back in the day, and now See Sets that are superior in every way.
4K, HDR , DV, Superior panel going for under $1000. And thats the budget I want to be in..

This will be my first dive into 4K and I have zero 4k content , no ps4 pro, xbox one X, no 4K stand alone, and no 4K movies, so I am starting from scratch.

I currently have a Sony DN 840 receiver which I believe has 4K passthrough and upscaling, but it is also a 5-6 year old receiver as well..

I dont plan on adding a Atmos setup, as long as my current 5.1 setup will do,

Will I need all new HDMIs for 4K as well?

As far as the TVs themselves Ive been looking at 4-5 in the 65"

Will be used for 4k disc/streaming, gaming, netflix/youtube

Vizio P series

TCL 6 series

LG 6090 PUA

Samsung NU6900

I believe all of those are priced from $650-$800 at BB

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1. Budget

$1000...Not sure if this is too low. Let me know if it is so I can re-evaluate.

2. Seating distance

14-feet

3. Size/placement limitations

No limitations. I have a wide TV stand so I will let it stand instead of mounting it on the wall.

4. Uses and sources

Laptop connected via HDMI connection to stream stuffs, watch local TVs, etc.

5. Room lighting

Surrounded by windows so tons of lights.


Note:

I am looking at this TV (https://www.costco.com/LG-70%22-Clas...100412287.html) and general consumer feedback are good. Considering the viewing distance, I'd like to go big.
At 14' viewing distance, you could use as large a screen as possible. Assuming that you're not going to triple your budget, I'd look at the 82 inch Samsung NU8000 which is probably your best bang for buck TV over 75 inches. I've seen it under 2K but you'd need to shop around.
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I know the Vizio and the TCL are very close. What I am trying to understand is for regular HD, non-4k content, are the features of both of these TVs noticeably superior to my current TV.
Theoretically both the Vizio and the TCL should be better for HD content than your 1080P Samsung, since they will upscale to 4k. As any 4k TV would do.

The TCL upscales better than the Vizio, although the Vizio will have other advantages over the TCL
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Looking to upgrade my 65" Vizio in my basement to a 75".

I'd love to get an OLED, but I just can't justify $4000 on the 77". So my dilemma is, do I go the cheaper route as a temporary measure, waiting a year or two for OLED prices to come down and knowing I'd then move this TV upstairs into the living room where it's casual viewing. Or do I just spend the money and get something nice and worry about the future later.

On the low end, I've been considering the Samsung NU8000 or the Vizio P75-F1. The Vizio is the better TV on paper, but as a current Vizio owner, I despise their software and I have concerns over the long term reliability and QC. The only reason I have a Vizio now is because I got it for dirt cheap on clearance at Walmart. Otherwise I can get the NU8000 for about $1200 after EPP discount, cashback, etc, which is a couple hundred less than the Vizio.

On the high end, I would get the Sony X900F. But for nearly twice the cost of the NU8000, it's hard to consider knowing I probably won't be happy until I get an OLED anyway.

The other option would be to wait a little longer for the 2019 Vizio lineup...but they're still Vizio's, and by that time all the cheap 2018s will probably be gone.

Fine print per the OP:
1. Budget: Around $1000-2000
2. Seating distance: 10-11 feet
3. Size/placement limitations: None
4. Uses and sources: Netflix, Gaming (Xbox One X), OTA TV
5. Room lighting: Dark (basement)
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At 14' viewing distance, you could use as large a screen as possible. Assuming that you're not going to triple your budget, I'd look at the 82 inch Samsung NU8000 which is probably your best bang for buck TV over 75 inches. I've seen it under 2K but you'd need to shop around.
Definitely not at the moment. I am trying to upgrade existing TV's in the house so the 14' distance is the longest viewing distance in the house. I can move this TV to another room in future. If I keep the current budget, I think I am limited to maximum of 70" but not sure. What's the best I can do within $1000? Thanks!

This is a bit smaller but I noticed that Vizio M-series has good reviews. What about M65-F (https://www.vizio.com/m65f0.html)

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Looking to upgrade my 65" Vizio in my basement to a 75".

I'd love to get an OLED, but I just can't justify $4000 on the 77". So my dilemma is, do I go the cheaper route as a temporary measure, waiting a year or two for OLED prices to come down and knowing I'd then move this TV upstairs into the living room where it's casual viewing. Or do I just spend the money and get something nice and worry about the future later.

On the low end, I've been considering the Samsung NU8000 or the Vizio P75-F1. The Vizio is the better TV on paper, but as a current Vizio owner, I despise their software and I have concerns over the long term reliability and QC. The only reason I have a Vizio now is because I got it for dirt cheap on clearance at Walmart. Otherwise I can get the NU8000 for about $1200 after EPP discount, cashback, etc, which is a couple hundred less than the Vizio.

On the high end, I would get the Sony X900F. But for nearly twice the cost of the NU8000, it's hard to consider knowing I probably won't be happy until I get an OLED anyway.

The other option would be to wait a little longer for the 2019 Vizio lineup...but they're still Vizio's, and by that time all the cheap 2018s will probably be gone.

Fine print per the OP:
1. Budget: Around $1000-2000
2. Seating distance: 10-11 feet
3. Size/placement limitations: None
4. Uses and sources: Netflix, Gaming (Xbox One X), OTA TV
5. Room lighting: Dark (basement)

How does waiting for better OLED technology and pricing, selling the Vizio, and buying the Samsung NU8000 now sound?

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Definitely not at the moment. I am trying to upgrade existing TV's in the house so the 14' distance is the longest viewing distance in the house. I can move this TV to another room in future. If I keep the current budget, I think I am limited to maximum of 70" but not sure. What's the best I can do within $1000? Thanks!

This is a bit smaller but I noticed that Vizio M-series has good reviews. What about M65-F (https://www.vizio.com/m65f0.html)
Originally you mentioned budget flexibility but if you're maxed out at 1K, the LG is not bad since the 70 inch panel is a VA panel unlike the larger sizes which are IPS with greyer blacks. Costco also has the Vizio E75 at 1K, which is a FALD TV (although the local dimming isn't very good). I'd say the extra 5" on the Vizio would be worth the extra $200. Both TVs are considered to be about the same by Rtngs.
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1) Budget - Was trying to stay in the ~$3k USD range
2) Seating Distance - Back row will be 10-12ft and front row will be 5-7ft
3) Size / Placement - Looking for as big as possible. Have been looking at the 82" and and 85" models
4) Uses and sources - Movies (Yamaha 2080 Atmos setup), gaming (PS4, XB1S, Switch), some TV. Plan on using a 4K FireStick and PLEX for streaming and the XB for DVDs at this point
5) Room Lighting - Dark, basement room. I have two windows on the left hand side, but will be getting blackout blinds and probably some curtains for them.



I'm finishing a basement and need to pull the trigger on something relatively quickly to take advantage of the 2018 closeouts. Was originally looking at the Sony 85" X850F, but a BB Samsung fanboy has me rethinking. I am currently looking at the Samsung Q6FN, the Q8FN, and the Sony X900F. The new Q70 now has local dimming and an 82" option for the same price as the current Q8FN.


There's currently about a $2k difference between the Q6 and the other two, so really need some help if I'm going to be able to justify that price bump. Looking to buy this week if possible. Appreciate any help!
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Hi there- I need to upgrade from my 8 yr old Sony XBR 55 inch. TV is in a corner of our great room next to a wall of windows. The room is used for watching tv and sports in the afternoons and evenings usually with a lot of ambient lighting (large living room contiguous with the kitchen). Viewing distance is 10 feet and greater due to layout of the room. There isn't room for anything larger than a 55 inch. I just put an LGB8 in a small den that we use for nighttime movie watching in the dark and that's worked well. I'd like to stick with an LG just to keep the remotes/interfaces consistent but can branch out if necessary. Main question is what 55 inch 4k smart TV options should i consider for bright viewing conditions. Would like to keep price under 1500 and close to 1000. Thanks.
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Hi there- I need to upgrade from my 8 yr old Sony XBR 55 inch. TV is in a corner of our great room next to a wall of windows. The room is used for watching tv and sports in the afternoons and evenings usually with a lot of ambient lighting (large living room contiguous with the kitchen). Viewing distance is 10 feet and greater due to layout of the room. There isn't room for anything larger than a 55 inch. I just put an LGB8 in a small den that we use for nighttime movie watching in the dark and that's worked well. I'd like to stick with an LG just to keep the remotes/interfaces consistent but can branch out if necessary. Main question is what 55 inch 4k smart TV options should i consider for bright viewing conditions. Would like to keep price under 1500 and close to 1000. Thanks.
Sony X900F and X950G, both under $1500. FWIW the latter has Ultimate Processor, eARC.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/55-inch

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1) Budget - Was trying to stay in the ~$3k USD range
2) Seating Distance - Back row will be 10-12ft and front row will be 5-7ft
3) Size / Placement - Looking for as big as possible. Have been looking at the 82" and and 85" models
4) Uses and sources - Movies (Yamaha 2080 Atmos setup), gaming (PS4, XB1S, Switch), some TV. Plan on using a 4K FireStick and PLEX for streaming and the XB for DVDs at this point
5) Room Lighting - Dark, basement room. I have two windows on the left hand side, but will be getting blackout blinds and probably some curtains for them.



I'm finishing a basement and need to pull the trigger on something relatively quickly to take advantage of the 2018 closeouts. Was originally looking at the Sony 85" X850F, but a BB Samsung fanboy has me rethinking. I am currently looking at the Samsung Q6FN, the Q8FN, and the Sony X900F. The new Q70 now has local dimming and an 82" option for the same price as the current Q8FN.


There's currently about a $2k difference between the Q6 and the other two, so really need some help if I'm going to be able to justify that price bump. Looking to buy this week if possible. Appreciate any help!
I think your original thinking re X850F 85" is still valid. This is a VA panel and received much better notices than the X850F 65" and 75" IPS panels. Though it's hard to find a professional review for the 85", it's received some favorable comments lately at this site. Good luck.

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Sony X900F and X950G, both under $1500. FWIW the latter has Ultimate Processor, eARC.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/55-inch
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I think your original thinking re X850F 85" is still valid. This is a VA panel and received much better notices than the X850F 65" and 75" IPS panels. Though it's hard to find a professional review for the 85", it's received some favorable comments lately at this site. Good luck.
Thanks Panson! Definitely some information I'd missed. Back on board with the 850!
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