Do TCL TVs last long? I would hate to buy a TV that craps out on me quickly.

Is there a reason why? I find it very hard to believe that I am the only person in the world that wants a center stand. I see no advantage of moving away from it. Center stands are better as it helps TVs stand on smaller furniture.

Looking to upgrade my 65" Vizio in my basement to a 75".

I'd love to get an OLED, but I just can't justify $4000 on the 77". So my dilemma is, do I go the cheaper route as a temporary measure, waiting a year or two for OLED prices to come down and knowing I'd then move this TV upstairs into the living room where it's casual viewing. Or do I just spend the money and get something nice and worry about the future later.

On the low end, I've been considering the Samsung NU8000 or the Vizio P75-F1. The Vizio is the better TV on paper, but as a current Vizio owner, I despise their software and I have concerns over the long term reliability and QC. The only reason I have a Vizio now is because I got it for dirt cheap on clearance at Walmart. Otherwise I can get the NU8000 for about $1200 after EPP discount, cashback, etc, which is a couple hundred less than the Vizio.

On the high end, I would get the Sony X900F. But for nearly twice the cost of the NU8000, it's hard to consider knowing I probably won't be happy until I get an OLED anyway.

The other option would be to wait a little longer for the 2019 Vizio lineup...but they're still Vizio's, and by that time all the cheap 2018s will probably be gone.

Fine print per the OP:
1. Budget: Around $1000-2000
2. Seating distance: 10-11 feet
3. Size/placement limitations: None
4. Uses and sources: Netflix, Gaming (Xbox One X), OTA TV
5. Room lighting: Dark (basement)

Is there a reason why? I find it very hard to believe that I am the only person in the world that wants a center stand. I see no advantage of moving away from it. Center stands are better as it helps TVs stand on smaller furniture.

Not that anyone probably cares, but I ended up buying the 75" TCL R615 for $1300 today. Couldn't bring myself to buy the NU8000 which would have been a downgrade in some ways, and I didn't want another Vizio. And while the x900f is no doubt a better TV, it's hard to justify $1000 better - and that's $1000 I can put towards the OLED in a year or two.

A lot of people prefer the older center based stands and most would agree that aesthetically they look better. And the furniture aspect is definitely true. The wider based stands that are the current trend are to accommodate placement of a soundbar underneath the TV. My guess is that it is also due to the increasing screen size of current TVs, and the wider placement of the legs adds stability.

As to the center-stand issue, something like this clears that up pretty easily I would think. These all have VESA mounts.

https://smile.amazon.com/Universal-T...-1-spons&psc=1

The only reason I made the distinction of stand width in my choice is the TCL and Vizio are within like $50, if you're talking $250 vs $550 then an add-on stand like that (or dozens of others on Amazon) starts to sound really great...

Kind of silly to buy a soundbar when you can get a nice 5.1 speaker system instead. But whatever floats people's boat, I guess.

Definitely want to go bigger, we have a 65" Panasonic TC-P65ZT60 plasma which we really love but want to go to 80+, preferably 85. Have been trying to do my research and due diligence but I am overwhelmed with OLED, QLED, LCD etc. The picture on the panny is awesome in our opinion, so with that in mind would like some recommendations based on the following:


Budget: 4-5K
Seating Distance: 10ft
Uses: DVD, OTA, Hulu, Netflix, Sports
Room Lighting: Well Lit, but have blinds that can darken the room some.



Thank you for any recommendations.

Kind of silly to buy a soundbar when you can get a nice 5.1 speaker system instead. But whatever floats people's boat, I guess.

Some people have space restrictions that preclude a full AVR system with speakers. I would think you would be able to relate to that

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Well considering that people here are suggesting that I go bigger than 43" for a TV size, then I didn't think people here had space restrictions.


Speakers come in all shapes and sizes so you can buy a set of whatever size speakers fits your space.

Since you're a plasma owner, I'd normally say go OLED, but OLED's realistically top out at 77" (unless you want to drop $20k+). Otherwise I'd recommend taking a look at the 85" Sony x900f (2018) or x950g (2019).

I believe I asked you if 43 was your max?

In any case, good luck with your TV choice. The 43 inch TCL's legs are 27.3" apart....fyi in case that fits on your furniture

https://www.tclusa.com/products/home...mart-tv-43s517

Definitely the models I was leaning towards. Now a big question, will I really see a distinct difference between the 900 vs 950 or save $500 and get the 900. I went to local BB and they had an 85" 900 but not the 950, but they had 75" 900 and 950 next to each other and I could not really see a difference in PQ unless the sales guy stopped the picture numerous times to point out the differences. So I don't mind spending the extra $500 if I am actually getting more for my money and/or I'm future proofing but not sure enough about either without some input from forum members. And one other thing, the salesman was showing me how in order to see the best picture possible I would need $450+ hdmi cables from and to everything I hook up to the TV. $450+ I almost sh*t right there in the store. Is this really true or was this just a salesman trying to screw me a little?

Again thank you for any replies.

I own neither of the Sony's, but my understanding is that the 950 is a slight upgrade in brightness, viewing angles, and processing, but at the cost of contrast. I compared these when shopping for a 75" and would have went with the 900, but the price difference at 75" was also over $1000.

Regarding the cabling, that's pure Best Buy upselling. Any $10-20 high quality HDMI cable from Amazon will handle 4k signal just fine (until HDMI 2.1 comes out at least, which neither of these TVs support). But yea, don't buy cables or accessories from Best Buy.

Can you help me choose which 4k TV?


Samsung NU8000 55"- I have the NU8000 49" I like it and all but I want a larger screen with the 55" plus it has 120hz panel.

Vizio P 55"- It got good reviews when it came out but the price tag wasnt worth it but not the price dropped to $600. Is it worth getting at this price?

So right now I am thinking between the Samsung and the Vizio. NO I cant afford the Sony 49" x900F out of my price range else I would have gotten that tv. The Sony Tvs from 2016 and 2017 the 800e and 750F which suck compared to the Vizip and Samsung are going for a higher price then the 2018 model. That's rediculous. Sony is a bully with thier prices. Any one help?

TCL 6 series R617 55"- I know about the panel lottery and I dont know of I want to go through it.

The Vizio P will have the advantage of local dimming, Dolby Vision support. The Samsung will be better for upscaling HD content and will have some gaming advantages. You haven't mentioned your use cases so its difficult to judge what is better for you. Rtngs has the Vizio rated better overall.

Oh sorry. I would say 50% watching HD Blu ray movies as I dont have a xbox or 4k player yet. I use my Ps4 slim for my HD bluRay's. .I guess the rest of the time is watching built in Apps Netflix, Amazon etc and 30% gaming on PS4. I know the Samsung has good input lag. I think Rtings said Vizio isnt bad for gaming. I dont think any Tv really today are bad for gaming. They pretty much all have a pretty good or responsible input lag. So I am stuck choosing. Should I go with the Vizio? FALD or upgrade my Samsung 49 inch to 55. I am kinda torn cause I like the Samsung but the Vizio is nice to lol

Samsung has some additional gaming features such as variable refresh rate, freesync, auto game mode but if all you care about is input lag, either TV is fine. You'll likely start watching 4K content through the internal Netflix app (if you have the UHD plan), and Amazon Prime. I'd suggest the Vizio, especially if you are going to be keeping your 49" NU8000.

Thanks no Iwill be returning the NU8000. Yeah I already have Netflix 4k plan and planning to buy The Xbox one X. So thanks yeah I think I may go with the Vizio P. Thanks for your input. May I ask what you have?

After a lot of research, ordered 65Q8FN. Arrived Friday. Do users recommend using the settings Rtings.com uses?

I can get a good deal on a Samsung 55' KS8500. Is it still worth it to buy? My main concern is it doesn't seem that HDR10+ will be added and then does the current firmware support HDR10?