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Hey guys, hope someone can help:

- $1,800 max budget
- 75"
- Primarily for streaming and gaming
- At least good image quality, but doesn't need to be stunning
- Want to avoid panel lottery as much as possible

Currently looking at the Samsung RU8000. I've had great experience with Samsung sets and feel pretty confident I won't get a bad panel. I looked at the TCL 6 series 75", but SO many people are playing the panel lottery with those I just don't think I want to risk it. Hauling multiple 75" TVs back to the store sounds way too much of a chore. The Vizio P75 seems sold out everywhere aside from some wholesaler sites with $100+ shipping costs and $50 memberships.

There's also the option of waiting for the new Vizio PQ models, but I don't know how much those will cost. Seems like they'd be in the $2500 range at 75".
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Hey guys, hope someone can help:

- $1,800 max budget
- 75"
- Primarily for streaming and gaming
- At least good image quality, but doesn't need to be stunning
- Want to avoid panel lottery as much as possible

Currently looking at the Samsung RU8000. I've had great experience with Samsung sets and feel pretty confident I won't get a bad panel. I looked at the TCL 6 series 75", but SO many people are playing the panel lottery with those I just don't think I want to risk it. Hauling multiple 75" TVs back to the store sounds way too much of a chore. The Vizio P75 seems sold out everywhere aside from some wholesaler sites with $100+ shipping costs and $50 memberships.

There's also the option of waiting for the new Vizio PQ models, but I don't know how much those will cost. Seems like they'd be in the $2500 range at 75".
The Samsung RU8000 is new and I don't see pro reviews from the major review sites yet. Likely to be similar to the 2018 NU8000 which is a decent but not great TV.

The Vizio P75-F1 is available on costco.com online, with free shipping, 90 day returns, extended warranty and free pickup in case you need to exchange and minimize your panel lottery worries (all TVs are a lottery). If you're not a member, it would be worth considering a $60 membership fee to get their clearout price plus all the other advantages mentioned.

Otherwise you might want to try to find a Samsung NU8000 which is at closeout pricing at many places. I've seen it for a little over 1K for the 75"
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The Samsung RU8000 is new and I don't see pro reviews from the major review sites yet. Likely to be similar to the 2018 NU8000 which is a decent but not great TV.

The Vizio P75-F1 is available on costco.com online, with free shipping, 90 day returns, extended warranty and free pickup in case you need to exchange and minimize your panel lottery worries (all TVs are a lottery). If you're not a member, it would be worth considering a $60 membership fee to get their clearout price plus all the other advantages mentioned.

Otherwise you might want to try to find a Samsung NU8000 which is at closeout pricing at many places. I've seen it for a little over 1K for the 75"
From what I can surmise from the terms used by Samsung, they aren't offering edge local dimming on any of the 2019 TVs. So, in addition to the 2019 low and middle tier TVs being dimmer, they all appear to have only global dimming this year. So my choice between the two would be to go for the 2018 NU8000 over the 2019 RU8000. For lower end models, again the 2018 NU7100 is brighter than the 2019 RU7100 so the older model would be my choice there also. And the Q60R, without local dimming and also being less bright than the 2018 Q6FN, should also be avoided IMO. I really don't know why Samsung is making their low and mid range TVs less capable this year.
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The Samsung RU8000 is new and I don't see pro reviews from the major review sites yet. Likely to be similar to the 2018 NU8000 which is a decent but not great TV.

The Vizio P75-F1 is available on costco.com online, with free shipping, 90 day returns, extended warranty and free pickup in case you need to exchange and minimize your panel lottery worries (all TVs are a lottery). If you're not a member, it would be worth considering a $60 membership fee to get their clearout price plus all the other advantages mentioned.

Otherwise you might want to try to find a Samsung NU8000 which is at closeout pricing at many places. I've seen it for a little over 1K for the 75"
I couldn't find the NU8000 anywhere except at the $2,000 price point. I looked pretty hard, but I would definitely get it if I saw it for $1k~ at 75"

Thanks for that information. It might be best just to try for the P75 at Costco then. Especially it being $400 cheaper than the RU8000. Aren't these more susceptible to panel lottery than other brands though? The idea of having to return a 75 inch TV to begin with is pretty bad and quite frankly scares me enough to consider not purchasing it.
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I couldn't find the NU8000 anywhere except at the $2,000 price point. I looked pretty hard, but I would definitely get it if I saw it for $1k~ at 75"

Thanks for that information. It might be best just to try for the P75 at Costco then. Especially it being $400 cheaper than the RU8000. Aren't these more susceptible to panel lottery than other brands though? The idea of having to return a 75 inch TV to begin with is pretty bad and quite frankly scares me enough to consider not purchasing it.
The slightly above 1K price for the 75NU8000 that I saw I believe was at Fry's on their weekly promo code special, which you can follow on slickdeals. Not sure if you have Fry's in your area though. Otherwise you could get a good closeout price if you're willing to order online from one of the reputable online/EBay dealers like Buydig, FirstClass TVs or Cleveland Plasma.

The $1800 price for the RU8000 is the MSRP price. I don't think paying MSRP makes sense but YMMV.

Regarding the Vizio, some people believe they have poorer quality control and are therefore a bigger panel lottery risk. However as I mentioned above, Costco.com does free pickups on returrn/exchanges which makes the size of the TV being returned less of an issue. I would keep your packaging for 90 days and hold off on any wall mounting plans until you know it's a keeper though (recommended practice regardless of which TV you choose).

If the Vizio still makes you nervous, go for a Samsung.
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The slightly above 1K price for the 75NU8000 that I saw I believe was at Fry's on their weekly promo code special, which you can follow on slickdeals. Not sure if you have Fry's in your area though. Otherwise you could get a good closeout price if you're willing to order online from one of the reputable online/EBay dealers like Buydig, FirstClass TVs or Cleveland Plasma.

The $1800 price for the RU8000 is the MSRP price. I don't think paying MSRP makes sense but YMMV.

Regarding the Vizio, some people believe they have poorer quality control and are therefore a bigger panel lottery risk. However as I mentioned above, Costco.com does free pickups on returrn/exchanges which makes the size of the TV being returned less of an issue. I would keep your packaging for 90 days and hold off on any wall mounting plans until you know it's a keeper though (recommended practice regardless of which TV you choose).

If the Vizio still makes you nervous, go for a Samsung.
Thanks so much for the advice. I think I'll try my luck with the P75 at Costco, since I can't find the NU8000 anywhere at a decent price. The $1400 price is crazy attractive for the quality and size of TV for the P75. The free shipping and easy returns are comforting to know. If it were from anywhere else aside from maybe Best Buy, I'd probably not do it.
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Thanks so much for the advice. I think I'll try my luck with the P75 at Costco, since I can't find the NU8000 anywhere at a decent price. The $1400 price is crazy attractive for the quality and size of TV for the P75. The free shipping and easy returns are comforting to know. If it were from anywhere else aside from maybe Best Buy, I'd probably not do it.
Costco is awesome for customer service, returns are accepted no questions asked. They don't always have the lowest prices but in this case the Vizio P75 is as good as you'll probably find.

You can also buy a 3 year Square Trade warranty from them for $99, which extends your total warranty to 5 years (1 year mfg, 1 year Costco, 3 years Sq Trade)
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Rtings measured real scene HDR brightness at 1,368 cd/m² with an HDR Peak 10% Window measured at 2,433 cd/m². You might want to peruse their Vizio PQ review.
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The brightness specs Dave is referring to are for the 2018 P Quantum, which is what I recommended. You're asking about the Quantum X, which hasn't been released yet. Not sure where you are getting the 95% return rate information, I would highly doubt that figure.
Greetings Dave and PlanetAVS.
Thanks for the link to the Rtings.com review article of Vizio P Series Quantum.
I'm trying to make sense of the number and would appreciate if you could kindly help me out.

1. I can't seem to find brightness ratings in the official product specification. Are theses usually stated?
2. The 2018 PQ is rated at 2000 nits. Would this number correspond to the 2132 cd/m² HDR Peak 2% Window Brightness measured by Rtings? And the 2019 PQX would have the same measure at around 2900/
3. Would the HDR metadata MaxCLL & MaxFALL correspond to the 2% and 100% peak brightness measured? That is, the TV wold have no problem displaying content with MaxCLL=2132 & MaxFALL=826 without applying any tone mapping?
4. Does it use a 10-bit panel?
5. The Panasonic ub820 likes to output [email protected] HDR signal. Would that be an issue for the Vizio?

Many thanks and best regards,
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Greetings Dave and PlanetAVS.
Thanks for the link to the Rtings.com review article of Vizio P Series Quantum.
I'm trying to make sense of the number and would appreciate if you could kindly help me out.

1. I can't seem to find brightness ratings in the official product specification. Are theses usually stated?
2. The 2018 PQ is rated at 2000 nits. Would this number correspond to the 2132 cd/m² HDR Peak 2% Window Brightness measured by Rtings? And the 2019 PQX would have the same measure at around 2900/
3. Would the HDR metadata MaxCLL & MaxFALL correspond to the 2% and 100% peak brightness measured? That is, the TV wold have no problem displaying content with MaxCLL=2132 & MaxFALL=826 without applying any tone mapping?
4. Does it use a 10-bit panel?
5. The Panasonic ub820 likes to output [email protected] HDR signal. Would that be an issue for the Vizio?

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1. Manufacturers never give complete useful specifications. It's really a marketing document.
2. Nits = cd/m². Rtings measures brightness in the most accurate picture mode, manufacturers do it in whatever their "torch mode" for store display is.
3. Maximum Content Light Level (MaxCLL) = brightest pixel in the entire stream - so a pixel, not 2%; Maximum Frame Average Light Level (MaxFALL) = highest frame average brightness per frame in the entire stream - so that would seem close to Rtings' HDR real scene brightness.
4. Yes, it is a 10-bit panel. Lesser models can be 8-bit with dithering.
5. Yes it accepts 4k @ 60Hz @ 4.2.2 and 4.4.4.

From Rtings on the Vizio PQ Supported Resolutions:
1080p @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 : Yes
1080p @ 120 Hz : Yes (native support)
1440p @ 60 Hz : No
1440p @ 120 Hz : No
4k @ 60 Hz : Yes
4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 : Yes
4k @ 120 Hz : No
8k @ 30 Hz or 24 Hz : No
8k @ 60 Hz : No

Great support for a wide range of different resolutions and refresh rates. HDMI ports 1-4 differ from the game low latency port on HDMI 5. Ports 1-4 support all common formats including chroma 4:4:4 and 4:2:2, but only when 'Full UHD Color' is enabled for the port being used. 4:4:4 color is only shown properly when the TV is set to Computer mode. Sharpness at 0 means no added sharpness. It is automatically greyed out in Computer mode. HDMI Port 5 supports a 4k @ 60 Hz input, but only at 4:2:0. It does not support 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 because it does not have the necessary bandwidth. It also doesn't support HDR.
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1. Manufacturers never give complete useful specifications. It's really a marketing document.
2. Nits = cd/m². Rtings measures brightness in the most accurate picture mode, manufacturers do it in whatever their "torch mode" for store display is.
3. Maximum Content Light Level (MaxCLL) = brightest pixel in the entire stream - so a pixel, not 2%; Maximum Frame Average Light Level (MaxFALL) = highest frame average brightness per frame in the entire stream - so that would seem close to Rtings' HDR real scene brightness.
4. Yes, it is a 10-bit panel. Lesser models can be 8-bit with dithering.
5. Yes it accepts 4k @ 60Hz @ 4.2.2 and 4.4.4.

From Rtings on the Vizio PQ Supported Resolutions:
1080p @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 : Yes
1080p @ 120 Hz : Yes (native support)
1440p @ 60 Hz : No
1440p @ 120 Hz : No
4k @ 60 Hz : Yes
4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 : Yes
4k @ 120 Hz : No
8k @ 30 Hz or 24 Hz : No
8k @ 60 Hz : No

Great support for a wide range of different resolutions and refresh rates. HDMI ports 1-4 differ from the game low latency port on HDMI 5. Ports 1-4 support all common formats including chroma 4:4:4 and 4:2:2, but only when 'Full UHD Color' is enabled for the port being used. 4:4:4 color is only shown properly when the TV is set to Computer mode. Sharpness at 0 means no added sharpness. It is automatically greyed out in Computer mode. HDMI Port 5 supports a 4k @ 60 Hz input, but only at 4:2:0. It does not support 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 because it does not have the necessary bandwidth. It also doesn't support HDR.
Another excellent summary by Big Dave
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Trying to decide between 77 OLED (LG or SONY), 75 or larger Q9FN or Q90, 75 Sony Z9D or X950G.
-Sit about 12 feet away
-Normal living room, but most viewing done at night when room is dimmer
-Mostly movies and console video games
-I sit head on and most seating is not terribly off angle.
-Budget allows for any of them, just can't decide.
-OLED concerns me because of burn in from static video game HUD.
-Q90 and X950G bother me because of the increased blooming due to the wide angle viewing feature.
-Have 7.1.4 Atmos and was all prepared for Dolby Vision until the great HDR format war began.
I guess maybe what I should ask is if you could pick one of these which one would you choose?
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I guess maybe what I should ask is if you could pick one of these which one would you choose?
Thoughts anyone?
From your list I'd go with the 75 Z9D. Sitting straight on, you don't need the Xwide angle benefits. The Z9D will give you the best combo of deep blacks, smooth motion and great brightness for HDR.

However at 12' viewing distance and the budget flexibility that you have, I'd lean towards the Sony 85X900F instead. Same benefits as the Z9D with a larger screen that you would be able to benefit from. The size difference will provide more value than any comparatively subtle picture quality differences between models on your list.
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Now that all of the rtings reviews are out for most of the Sony, LG, and Samsung's 2019 models I have it narrowed down to:

1.) 65" X950G for $2000

2.) 65" Q80R for $1850 ([email protected] pricing)

Q80R seems to get better reviews, but X950G annecdotally seem to have fewer quality control complaints. I've heard that Sony has had some issues with streaming apps, but I imagine they'll be resolved soon, if not already.

Samsung's lack of eARC bothers me as a matter of principle, but I have no immediate plans to get a sound bar or receiver (this is in a family room and we don't do loud).

We have some off-axis seating (max 45°), so the Q80R might be good for that.

I'm an Android and Google Home user, so Sony integrates well with that.

I'm sure either will be fine, but I'm torn!

P.S. I've thought about OLED, but just can't get past the burn-in risk, so no...

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Now that all of the rtings reviews are out for most of the Sony, LG, and Samsung's 2019 models I have it narrowed down to:

1.) 65" X950G for $2000

2.) 65" Q80R for $1850 ([email protected] pricing)

Q80R seems to get better reviews, but X950G annecdotally seem to have fewer quality control complaints. I've heard that Sony has had some issues with streaming apps, but I imagine they'll be resolved soon, if not already.

Samsung's lack of eARC bothers me as a matter of principle, but I have no immediate plans to get a sound bar or receiver (this is in a family room and we don't do loud).

We have some off-axis seating (max 45°), so the Q80R might be good for that.

I'm an Android and Google Home user, so Sony integrates well with that.

I'm sure either will be fine, but I'm torn!

P.S. I've thought about OLED, but just can't get past the burn-in risk, so no...

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They're both good TVs, but you have off angle viewing and the 65" X950G does not have the X wide angle layer. So the Q80R is a better fit from the TV perspective. As far as Android and Google integration goes, I'm not a fan of either so whether that changes things is up to you.
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how do you determine the off angle measurement?


I see everyone talking about it, but how does one determine the degree of the off viewing angle?

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how do you determine the off angle measurement?


I see everyone talking about it, but how does one determine the degree of the off viewing angle?
Use on online calculator such as this Right triangle calculator.

Enter the distance to the center of the screen as "leg a".
Enter the maximum distance from the center of the screen as "leg b".
Under "Select value to find", select "angle β".
Click on calculate and the off angle value will be displayed at the box on top.

So if you're sitting 12 feet away, enter "12" as "leg a".
If you're farthest seat off to the side is 8 feet from the center of the screen, enter "8" as "leg b".
Click "angle β" and then click on Calculate and the angle will be displayed as "β = 33.6901°"
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need something with a good upscaler for direct tv, dvds, blurays, streaming

but also would like fald and va panel for the occasional 4k movie, couple times a week.
been looking at the sony 65x900f
is this the best option for me?


id love 65 lg oled c8 but too pricey
budget is approx 1800
prefer to buy from authorized dealer. i also have costco membership
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how do you determine the off angle measurement?


I see everyone talking about it, but how does one determine the degree of the off viewing angle?
Measure from your viewing position along a line parallel to the TV until you are dead center in front of the TV (call this number X).

Also measure from your viewing position directly to the center of the TV itself (call this number Y).

Get a calculator app with inverse sine function (sin^-1). Calculate X ÷ Y, then calculate inverse sine of that. That's your angle.

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Went to BEST Buy today to buy a new Washing Machine.
Decided to stop by the TV Department to find out if they had heard the Vizio 2019 TVs release date. There was no information, but I did learn two interesting “facts” about Vizio.
Vizio has a return rate of 95%.
Vizio was purchased by HiSense last September.
Very interesting, Vizio is not spelled or pronounced anything like Sharp.
95% return rate and still in business?
Time for a phone call to BEST BUY HDQTRS.
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wondering if i should choose this sony XBR65A8F from costco over an lg oled c8? theyre both about the same price

https://www.costco.com/.product.9098165.html
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I believe the point of the post you quoted was that the Best Buy sales rep was less than honest
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need something with a good upscaler for direct tv, dvds, blurays, streaming

but also would like fald and va panel for the occasional 4k movie, couple times a week.
been looking at the sony 65x900f
is this the best option for me?


id love 65 lg oled c8 but too pricey
budget is approx 1800
prefer to buy from authorized dealer. i also have costco membership
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wondering if i should choose this sony XBR65A8F from costco over an lg oled c8? theyre both about the same price

https://www.costco.com/.product.9098165.html
Costco is a great place to buy a TV based on customer service, return policy, shipping, extended warranties but in this case the prices are almost 50% higher than available elsewhere (not for the Sony OLED, but for the LG OLED).

Sony 900F is probably your best bet based on your 1st post (good upscaling, $1800 budget)
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Costco is a great place to buy a TV based on customer service, return policy, shipping, extended warranties but in this case the prices are almost 50% higher than available elsewhere (not for the Sony OLED, but for the LG OLED).

Sony 900F is probably your best bet based on your 1st post (good upscaling, $1800 budget)

ill wait until memorial day weekend. hopefully the 900f will be on sale and ill buy.
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Hey Guys. Looking forward to suggestions:

-Budget $300-$500
-Living Room. Comcast (watching hockey) and streaming Netflix/Amazon
-65'' Samsung JS8500 is downstairs in theater; this is a more basic/everyday/casual setup (wife does most of the watching, anything important/movie night we go downstairs to main theater area)
-Maximum size due to cabinet/location constraints is 50''
-If "smart" functions are junk like most I'll get a Roku Ultra
-Taking current 12 year old 46'' Sharp Aquos 1080p to lake home
-I do have 4k capable Denon 2400H AVR
-Planning to purchase in store from Best Buy, but can also order on Amazon

Thanks!
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Looking for suggestions on a 65" TV for our basement. Budget is under $1K, and prefer closer to $600. I'm just a casual viewer, so I don't need perfection. Just looking for a good TV that I can count on lasting for a decade or more. At this point it will be used 75% for xbox one, and 25% netflix/movies. From my research, Vizio and TCL seem to be the front runners for value. What are the suggestions out there? The Vizio M and P series; and the TCL 6 series look like contenders. Any thoughts on those, or others?
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Hey Guys. Looking forward to suggestions:

-Budget $300-$500
-Living Room. Comcast (watching hockey) and streaming Netflix/Amazon
-65'' Samsung JS8500 is downstairs in theater; this is a more basic/everyday/casual setup (wife does most of the watching, anything important/movie night we go downstairs to main theater area)
-Maximum size due to cabinet/location constraints is 50''
-If "smart" functions are junk like most I'll get a Roku Ultra
-Taking current 12 year old 46'' Sharp Aquos 1080p to lake home
-I do have 4k capable Denon 2400H AVR
-Planning to purchase in store from Best Buy, but can also order on Amazon

Thanks!
I'd suggest the 2018 TCL 49S517. Probably the best overall within your budget from this list. Has Roku TV, good black levels, decent motion (on par for this size/budget), good color. And Dolby Vision for Netflix.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/be.../48-49-50-inch
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tired of waiting for sales on the sony 65 900f
has anyone had a bad experience with greentoe regarding a return?
i read they are authorized dealer.
i want to give them a shot and offer $1200
almost bought tcl for $800 plus tax but for a few hundred more sony is the better tv
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Hey Guys. Looking forward to suggestions:

-Budget $300-$500
-Living Room. Comcast (watching hockey) and streaming Netflix/Amazon
-65'' Samsung JS8500 is downstairs in theater; this is a more basic/everyday/casual setup (wife does most of the watching, anything important/movie night we go downstairs to main theater area)
-Maximum size due to cabinet/location constraints is 50''
-If "smart" functions are junk like most I'll get a Roku Ultra
-Taking current 12 year old 46'' Sharp Aquos 1080p to lake home
-I do have 4k capable Denon 2400H AVR
-Planning to purchase in store from Best Buy, but can also order on Amazon

Thanks!
Under $500 review:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/be...rice/under-500

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Just moved into a new house with some built in TV cabinets and looking to upgrade my 2007 panasonic plasma but having a tough time choosing

Budget: no more than $1500, but the lower the better
Room: Effectively in basement with only one small window, and overhead dimmable lighting. Built in TV cabinet has a width of 51" so 55" is the max TV size that will fit I believe
Viewing position: likely no more than 8" distance with a a max viewing angle probably of no more than 30 degrees
No sound system at the moment

Considerations: Samsung Q70 ($1,080 with EPP), Samsung QFN ($1,400), Samsung Q7DR ($1,400 - same TV as Q70 I believe but has a 5-year warranty), Vizio P55 ($700), Sony 950G ($1,300), Sony 900f ($1,200), LG B8 ($1,500), Samung Q80 ($1,430 with EPP)
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Just moved into a new house with some built in TV cabinets and looking to upgrade my 2007 panasonic plasma but having a tough time choosing

Budget: no more than $1500, but the lower the better
Room: Effectively in basement with only one small window, and overhead dimmable lighting. Built in TV cabinet has a width of 51" so 55" is the max TV size that will fit I believe
Viewing position: likely no more than 8" distance with a a max viewing angle probably of no more than 30 degrees
No sound system at the moment

Considerations: Samsung Q70 ($1,080 with EPP), Samsung QFN ($1,400), Samsung Q7DR ($1,400 - same TV as Q70 I believe but has a 5-year warranty), Vizio P55 ($700), Sony 950G ($1,300), Sony 900f ($1,200), LG B8 ($1,500), Samung Q80 ($1,430 with EPP)
2019 models: My bias would be Sony X950G, but I'd want to compare PQ and motion with Samsung Q80.

2018 models: LGB8, Samsung Q8FN.

Coming from plasma (With no burn-in?), with a near-dark basement, I'd think you'd be leaning toward LGB8?

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https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/55-inch

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