There is a BB 12 miles West of me, and one 20 miles North of me. Both are always full of customers, so I doubt if they are going out of business anytime soon. Usually when big box stores go out of business, they have arrangements for honoring warranties.

Thank you, Eddie E., please do. Sony X950G owners thread awaits.

FWIW Sony X950G 65" would be my choice, if I was currently shopping. Your initial selection LG C9 65" would also be considered, if room lighting permitted. It doesn't.

Have fun, enjoy.

My previous Sony 60" TV has died. My room is 13' x 20', with a 12' sliding door and panel on one wall (so lots of daytime light). TV goes on a stand in the corner (caddy-cornered), facing the center of a large L-shaped sofa (center sweet spot about 13' from center of screen, both ends of sofa are roughly 9' from the screen, at roughly 35 degrees off-center). The available space is better suited to a 65" TV, but some alterations would accommodate a 75" (barely).


I know asking for a preference is completely subjective, but I'd like to hear your opinions. I'm leaning towards the 65" Q90 (I'm more of "quality over quantity" guy), but in addition to screen size consideration, I'm just not sure if the Q90 would perform significantly better than the Q80...not based on specs, but on "real world, everyday family room" usage...watching mostly 1080i/720p sports and HBO from a cable box, and entering the world of 4K through the onboard streaming apps.


I sure would appreciate hearing about your experiences with these particular LCD's.


Thanks.

For your usage, 1080i/720p sports and HBO viewing from a cable box, the Q80R will perform identical to the Q90R. So being you're sitting from 9 to 13 feet from the TV, go for the larger 75" Q80R. The Q90R's major advantages are 480 dimming zones vs. 96 for the Q80R and increased brightness. These parameters are relevant to HDR performance, not 1080i/720p sports and HBO viewing from a cable box. Both have the same wide angle viewing and excellent anti reflective performance which are most important in your large lighted room. So go for the 75"!

Finally time to upgrade my trusty (still chugging along) 12 year-old Sony 52" 1080P LCD.

I'm looking only at 65" displays, and a price point somewhat under $1K.

(I'll mention that a few years back, I bought a 43" Vizio 4K for the bedroom...I really love the TV, but the blooming from the 5! Wow! local-dimming zones makes me crazy, because my eye usually goes right to it.)

With that in mind, what 65" displays fall in the nexus of PRICE vs. FALD ZONES vs. PERFORMANCE?

Are 96 FALD zones enough? 120? 384? Something in-between?

Even with a huge number of zones, I know my eye will still likely get pulled to FALD action (scrolling titles against black, intercut dark/light camera angles), but I'm looking for sweet spot recommendations based on other's experiences.

Any product suggestions?

Thanks!

Sony X900F 65". 48 zones, IIRC. Don't get too hung up with zones at 1K. This model is a good all-round performer in variably-lit rooms. Accurate color, outstanding motion and upscaling. $1198 at B&H Photo, may be cheaper elsewhere.

Good luck, have fun.

Sounds as if blooming is an OCD for you. All FALD LCDs will exhibit some blooming at times, and it appears you can't "unsee" it, so save a bit more cash and go for a 65" OLED. Since you keep TVs for more than ten years, my advice is to spend a little more, and don't cheap out. You should be able to get a 65" LG OLED for around $1,500 for Black Friday which is only a week away.

My only concern with FALD zones is that I know I'll notice the effect. I'm guessing the more zones, the less I'll notice it...which means the less I'll be annoyed by it.

Thanks for the rec...I'll take a look at the Sony!

Looking for advice opinions.

1. Budget 600 max but ....

2. Seating distance
viewing MOSTLY IN BED about 10 ft sway
3. Size/placement limitations
will BE PLACED ON Dresser THAT OS 39" WIDE( no wall mounting is an option. )
4. Uses and sources
Streaming and lite XBOX GAMING
5. Room lighting
Bedroom with two windows not a factor AND TWO LAMPS


With any of these tv's should I buy a geek squad or Costco square trade warranty. It's not like I can buy a tv every 5 years as I still have my plasma from 9 years ago in family room. plus I'm limited physically.


What's important to me is quality image,colors that"pop"

Currently have 43" LG UK6500-personally I feel it looks terrible.

2 Choices that could or will fit on that size dresser see #3 ^^^^^

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hisense...?skuId=6346784

https://www.costco.com/tcl-55-class-...100515013.html


Looking forward to my esteemed members valued responses. Thank you.

Thanks, Dave...you've been a great help to me. I get so caught up reading reviews and specs..."real-world application advice" is big! I had no idea that the dimming zones/increased brightness specs only relate to HDR. I'm sure, moving forward, I will be looking for new 4k content and will be taking advantage of the set's HDR performance using the onboard streaming apps, but the majority of our viewing will remain from cable.


So, the number of dimming zones won't have a significant effect on things like "blooming" (especially with subtitles) on 1080i or 1080p content (from cable, Netflix, etc.). Also, I understand what "black crush" is (from watching video reviews)...is that another issue that only relates to HDR performance?

Panson, I'm not that familiar with the current Sony line (been sort of focused on the Samsung Q80 and 90). I did read and watch some reviews on the X950G (65"), which would have been on the top of my list, except for the lack of a wide viewing angle (the 75" is just beyond my already extended budget). Can you explain how the X900F differs from the X950G?

Unfortunately, there's no way to turn off local dimming on Samsung TVs. Set it to low and any unwanted effects will be minimized, including blooming and black crush. When watching HDR content, set local dimming to high. With Samsung blooming of subtitles isn't really the problem, its brightness changes in the scene when subtitles are displayed. Again, setting local dimming to low will minimize this. Since you need extended viewing angles in a 65" LCD, the Samsung Q80R and Q90R are your only choices other than the very high priced 65" Sony Z9F. No brand or type of TV is perfect, including all the various LCD FALD implementations. If you want perfect subtitles because that's your personal TV OCD, I'd recommend you go for a 65" OLED which also provides even better extended viewing angles.

I've been telling you guys not to sleep on the H9F, it is a really good TV for the money. Being I am in the return window for the Hisense, I bought the X900F being it was only a few hundred more. I ran a few shows side by side and compared.
I would give a edge in black level to the Hisense, viewing angle to the Hisense (really good for an LED), reflection handling also goes to the Hisense, ,it also has a better remote and a smoother Android experience overall. More of a red push on the Hisense, similar to Samsungs.
There is a LOT to like about the Hisense.

But I am all about what has the best PQ, and for me, it is the Sony.
The Sony's picture was sharper, colors were more natural and motion was great.
You do see some blooming around white letters on black backgrounds on the Sony
but honestly, I don't really care that much. The picture is SO good. And I have a few C series OLED's so I have
a pretty high bar to compare it to.

I am keeping the Sony and returning the Hisense. The WOW factor on the Sony while watching 4K nature scenes is...WOW.
For overall PQ only I would say the Sony is like a 9, H9F maybe an 8.3.
These are both uncalibrated but I messed with the settings on both. Both TV's were pretty good right out of the box.

The X950G has eARC and Ultimate Processor, and X-Wide Angle in 75", 85". X900F has Extreme Processor, and no wide angle tech.

Stranger Things on Netflix has a lot of dark scenes. I notice on my cheap tv that there are large blocky areas of dark that move around where its sort of brownish yellow. So would a high end FALD tv fix that? How "high-end" would I have to go to fix that sort of phenomenon?

Netflix Premium Plan.

LCD: VIZIO P-Series Quantum X 65", $1399.99; Sony X950G 65", $1398.

OLED: LG C9 65", $2096.99. Prices from B&H Photo, may be cheaper elsewhere.

Related:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...x-2019/764/848

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled

Can't guarantee anything about Netflix or TVs. Good luck, have fun.

Do you have the 4K NetFlix subscription?


What kind of bandwidth do you have available to NetFlix?


Both of the above can have an effect on your picture, but yeah the large blocky area can be due to your TV not handling blacks well or the upscaling of a non-4k feed to 4K.

No, I wasn't aware of the Netflix Premium until reading this thread. I have not purchased a 4K tv yet, been looking at Costco and BB. My CenturyLink is about 38M down. Pretty sure my old 1080 tv does not handle blacks well its a LG 60LN5600. Time to upgrade to a 75 or bigger 4K. Samsung 75 Q7D at Costco or Sony X900F at BB or ...

I found this site, seems it is the mother lode of information! https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/

From this article, 25M seems to be a rough ISP bandwidth goal for 4K streaming.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...eed/933989001/

This is helpful, thanks!

Looking for a bedroom tv 55" - viewing angles gaming is a non-factor . This tv is replacing a smaller ips tv

My two choices seem to be Costco, would take the H9f but remember this is just a tv for bedroom only not my main tv. T


Rhe 2018 TCL 613 and the Vizio Quantum M 55-7 model yes budget is limited to 400 or so


Thoughts on this. Would the tcl 613 possibly be better quality than from when the tv first came out?


Looking forwardto responses Thank you.

I currently have a Panasonic 50" S60 plasma that I enjoy the picture of but I want to go to a 4k tv. I am trying to decide between an OLED or a LCD. If I went OLED I would probably go with the LG B9 55" as it is at the top of the budget I would like at $1199 right now. I have also been thinking about the Sony X950G 55" as well. I sit about 8ft away from the TV. The room lighting is medium lighting. We mostly watch Hulu streaming from a fire TV 4k stick. Also Blu Ray on a PS4 pro. Some gaming on the PS4 pro or an Xbox one original (no 4k Blu ray). I have also thought about a Sony X900F 65" as I would like to go 65". My only problem with a 65" is it would have to have a platform stand or a stand similar to the Sony that doesn't go all the way out to the edge as our TV stand right now is only 52" wide also where the tv is a 65" is borderline too wide about an inch or so of the tv would go over part of the border of a window but not into the window. I am just not sure if I will be happy with the picture on an LCD coming from a plasma? I have looked at all the TV's in best buy and I do like the OLED picture more but I also know those TVs probably aren't calibrated properly so wanted to ask here if anyone has gone from a similar plasma to an LCD or OLED and what their thoughts were? Also is it better to get a bigger LCD rather than a smaller OLED?

Last year I moved from my 10-year old Panasonic TH46-PZ800U and 14-year old Samsung 50" DLP to a pair of Samsung LCDs. One is a 55" "QLED" 120 Hz VA panel LCD and the other a cheaper 65" 60 Hz VA panel LCD without any issues. I considered an OLED for the family room, but it is multi-windowed and would require setting backlight high which enhances OLED pixel aging. With my usage, burn in was not an issue as it wasn't for my old plasma. For the basement, I wasn't willing to spend OLED money just to occasionally watch sports with my friends. Anyway, the two Samsung LCDs cost less than the 55" OLED did last year so I'm happy. OLEDs are sample an hold displays just like LCDs so motion isn't any better. In fact OLED response time is so fast that you get stutter in 24p content. I liked the Sony 900F and considered getting it but at the time the 55" 900F was $500 more than the Samsung 55" Q7C "QLED" I picked up so I went with the Samsung. The 65" Samsung UN6900 was a no brainer at just $550, has a very high contrast ratio and accurate colors, and looks fine for football and baseball. So I got two TVs for less than the 55" OLED and for close to the price of the 55" Sony 900F. Since I'm retired, money isn't as readily available as my pension and Social Security add up to around 70% of my former salary so I have to spend carefully.

BTW, the 46" Panasonic plasma is still working great at my beach house with over 30,000 hours on it, along with a 2010 42" Insignia/Samsung plasma. Those old plasmas were made a lot better than the cheapo LCDs they sell these days.

https://www.consumerreports.org/tvs/...iday-tv-deals/

I have owned a 60" Panasonic 3D plasma for 7 years. About 10 days ago I purchased the 65" LG C9. I delayed the delivery for a few days waiting to sell my plasma first. In the meantime I got a change of heart and decided to cancel the C9 and purchased a 65" Sony X950g. My main reason is that for 7 years owning my plasma, I was always concerned about burn-in. I did on occasion get IR, but no permanent burn-in. I know burn-in is not as prevalent in newer TVs. I just wanted the piece of mind of not worrying about it this time around. I just got my Sony yesterday. To me there is not a vast improvement in 1080p compared to my plasma, but 4k really pops. It's unbelievably sharp and realistic looking. I haven't done much with the settings yet. I may even get it professionally calibrated since I plan to have it for a long time.

A few worth considering.

SMALL - 40" Samsung UN40N5200AFXZA (1080p); MID - 55" Sony 55A8G, 55" LG OLED55C9AUA; BIG - 65" Sony XBR-65X900F; 65" Samsung QN65Q70RAFXZA; 65" Samsung QN65Q80RAFXZA; 65" LG OLED65C9AUA; 65" Sony 65A8G; JUMBO - 75" Vizio PX75-G1; 75" QN75Q70RAFXZA; 75" Sony XBR-75X950G; 77" LG OLED77C9AUB; 85" Sony XBR-85X900F;

That's good to hear. I have been worried about the black levels of an LCD compared to my plasma. I mean if the B9 is still only $200 more than the X950g in a 55" when I go to purchase I might do that, because a 65" really is too big for the space I have. But would be curious to hear your thoughts after messing with the settings.

Just bought a house and haven’t yet moved in, and will need two TVs, but for now I’m focused on the living room. I’m not sure if a 65” will fit, so may have to stick to 55”. Unfortunately the TV will have to be mounted high above a fireplace. I’ve attached a couple pictures to show where it will be going.
I’d be willing to go to about $1k, but the wife would probably like less than that. The tv will be primarily used to watch sports and content from an Apple TV (iTunes movies, Netflix, etc). I plan on finally buying a 4K UHD player as well.

Looks like you'll have considerable off angle viewing. So, here are the choices for off angle viewing, in order of preference at 55" and 65": 1. LG OLED; 2. Samsung Q80R; 3. LG or Sony IPS panel.