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Hey everyone,

Looking at picking up a new tv semi soon and was hoping to get some recommendations from you tv experts.. I currently have a sony kdl 555nx810 that i've had for about probably 9yrs. Looking at upgrading to either a 65 or 75. We generally sit about 10' away from our tv. I don't need a smart tv since i run everything from my ps4 or i would buy a fire/roku to run apps through. Also, not worried about the sound quality since i use a home theater system. Its in my living room and its usually not a dark room. We dim the lights sometimes but there is usually some light source on. I generally use the tv for streaming and some video gaming(not much these days). I do watch football occasionally or ufc fights. That's about it for sports. I was hoping to spend around $400-$1000 on an upgrade. Been looking at costco or bestbuy and following the slickdeals forums for tv deals. Just having trouble deciding on what to get. Kinda been following the Samsung q70 and the Sony 850/900. Even the hisense and tcl stuff for the cheaper priced tvs. just having trouble deciding and hoping to get some help

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Hey everyone,

Looking at picking up a new tv semi soon and was hoping to get some recommendations from you tv experts.. I currently have a sony kdl 555nx810 that i've had for about probably 9yrs. Looking at upgrading to either a 65 or 75. We generally sit about 10' away from our tv. I don't need a smart tv since i run everything from my ps4 or i would buy a fire/roku to run apps through. Also, not worried about the sound quality since i use a home theater system. Its in my living room and its usually not a dark room. We dim the lights sometimes but there is usually some light source on. I generally use the tv for streaming and some video gaming(not much these days). I do watch football occasionally or ufc fights. That's about it for sports. I was hoping to spend around $400-$1000 on an upgrade. Been looking at costco or bestbuy and following the slickdeals forums for tv deals. Just having trouble deciding on what to get. Kinda been following the Samsung q70 and the Sony 850/900. Even the hisense and tcl stuff for the cheaper priced tvs. just having trouble deciding and hoping to get some help

Thanks,
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The Sony X850G is an IPS panel so avoid that one. If you stay at 65", compare the Samsung Q70R and Sony X900F or X950G and pick the one that looks best to you. If you can wait, the 2020 Sony X900H comes with HDMI 2.1 for 4K @ 120 Hz but avoid the new 2020 Samsungs as they are a step back from 2019 models.

I'm not a fan of the shoddy QC on the cheap Chinese TVs, so Hisense and TCL are up to you. Vizio TVs have nice specs, but QC issues like DSE, banding and vignetting also. If you buy a cheap Hisense, TCL or Vizio TV be prepared to return it immediately if there are any issues.
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80"+ tv for Sports, Gaming, Netflix

Looking for an 80"+ for my man cave.

Primary Programming = sports, gaming, Netflix.
Room Light = Dim to Dark lighting
Viewing Distance = 16'
Viewing Width = 16'
Viewing Angle Extremes = 27 deg and 46 deg (this is based on the most extreme seating)
Budget = less than $3500

Was leaning towards a Sony for their motion handling. This is what I have narrowed down:

X900F = VA Full Array Local Dimming = Better contrast, Poor viewing angle
X950G = VA Full Array Local Dimming with X-Wide Angle = Poor Contrast, Better viewing angle

What are peoples suggestions? Seems I will need to prioritize between viewing angle and contrast?
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The Sony X850G is an IPS panel so avoid that one. If you stay at 65", compare the Samsung Q70R and Sony X900F or X950G and pick the one that looks best to you. If you can wait, the 2020 Sony X900H comes with HDMI 2.1 for 4K @ 120 Hz but avoid the new 2020 Samsungs as they are a step back from 2019 models.

I'm not a fan of the shoddy QC on the cheap Chinese TVs, so Hisense and TCL are up to you. Vizio TVs have nice specs, but QC issues like DSE, banding and vignetting also. If you buy a cheap Hisense, TCL or Vizio TV be prepared to return it immediately if there are any issues.
I believe the X850G in the 75" and 85" is a VA panel and not IPS.
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I believe the X850G in the 75" and 85" is a VA panel and not IPS.
Nope. 55 to 75 IPS panel, Edge-lit. 85" VA panel, Direct-lit.

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The Sony X850G, or XG85 for UK and Europe, comes in four different sizes with 55″, 65″, 75″ and 85″ available. What you should keep in mind is that the three first sizes come with IPS panels and use Edge-lit systems while the 85″ variant comes with a VA panel and a Direct-lit system instead.
https://h-m-entertainment.com/sony-x850g-review

For your TV-buying, I suggest 2020 Sony X900H 85", MSRP $3,499.99. Early May release.

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Looking for an 80"+ for my man cave.

Primary Programming = sports, gaming, Netflix.
Room Light = Dim to Dark lighting
Viewing Distance = 16'
Viewing Width = 16'
Viewing Angle Extremes = 27 deg and 46 deg (this is based on the most extreme seating)
Budget = less than $3500

Was leaning towards a Sony for their motion handling. This is what I have narrowed down:

X900F = VA Full Array Local Dimming = Better contrast, Poor viewing angle
X950G = VA Full Array Local Dimming with X-Wide Angle = Poor Contrast, Better viewing angle

What are peoples suggestions? Seems I will need to prioritize between viewing angle and contrast?
Your viewing angle requirement excludes the 2018 X900F and new 2020 X900H as both are traditional VA panels with narrow viewing angles. The 2019 X950G and new 2020 X950H have the X Wide Angle layer first shown in the 2018 Z9F. But the 2019 Samsung Q80R and Q90R have wider viewing angles with higher contrast and deeper blacks so you might want to at least add the 82" Q80R to your list. Rtings measured it's viewing angle performance for black levels at up to 70° vs. 35° for Sony while providing a contrast ratio of 5721:1 with local dimming. Don't consider the new 2020 Samsungs as they are scaled back from the 2019 models.
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Your viewing angle requirement excludes the 2018 X900F and new 2020 X900H as both are traditional VA panels with narrow viewing angles. The 2019 X950G and new 2020 X950H have the X Wide Angle layer first shown in the 2018 Z9F. But the 2019 Samsung Q80R and Q90R have wider viewing angles with higher contrast and deeper blacks so you might want to at least add the 82" Q80R to your list. Rtings measured it's viewing angle performance for black levels at up to 70° vs. 35° for Sony while providing a contrast ratio of 5721:1 with local dimming. Don't consider the new 2020 Samsungs as they are scaled back from the 2019 models.
I have seen a lot of comments about poor motion control handling on Samsung such that I don't think I want to go that direction.

With that said, the viewing angles I listed would be at the extreme seating positions. So how does one prioritize viewing angle vs. contrast/deeper blacks?

Do you choose the ideal contrast/black for the main seating position (900f, 900h), or compromise on contrast/black for better viewing for all seating positions (950g, 950h)? Should one attribute be more heavily weighted when compared to the other in real world viewing? Which one makes the biggest difference?
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I have seen a lot of comments about poor motion control handling on Samsung such that I don't think I want to go that direction.

With that said, the viewing angles I listed would be at the extreme seating positions. So how does one prioritize viewing angle vs. contrast/deeper blacks?

Do you choose the ideal contrast/black for the main seating position (900f, 900h), or compromise on contrast/black for better viewing for all seating positions (950g, 950h)? Should one attribute be more heavily weighted when compared to the other in real world viewing? Which one makes the biggest difference?
That would be your call. You wouldn't have that problem with a Q80R, but you've eliminated that due to comments from others. You should look for yourself as certain motion "issues" which affect some viewers aren't a problem for many other viewers.
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Don't consider the new 2020 Samsungs as they are scaled back from the 2019 models.
Pretty dead here so I'll comment on myself. More evidence that Samsung appears to be giving up entirely on 4K LCDs with
Rting's latest review of the 2020 TU8000. Looking at the 2018 NU8000 vs. the 2019 RU8000 vs. the 2020 TU800 we see a continuous downgrade. The NU8000 was a 120 Hz VA panel with edge local dimming, the RU8000 lost the local dimming but stayed 120 Hz, and now the TU8000 has been downgraded to a 60 Hz VA panel without local dimming. Rtings rates it dead even with the 2018 low-end NU6900 I bought for a mere $550 for a basement TV. But the new TU8000 is dimmer than the NU6900, has much less accurate color, and is afflicted with visible banding.

On the "QLED" front, the Q60T is now a 60 Hz panel like the TU8000; the Q70T has been downgraded to the equivalent of the 2019 Q60R and is now an edge lit 120 Hz VA panel without local dimming; the Q80T is now the equivalent to the 2019 Q70R with 48 FALD zones; while the Q90T has dropped to 2019 Q80R specs with 96 FALD zones. So much for "QLED" being marketed as an alternative to OLED as nobody should be thinking that now.

Sony already gave up on high-end 4K LCDs, the last being the 2018 Z9F Master series. At least the two mid range offerings for 2020 haven't seemed to downgrade, with the X900H gaining HDMI 2.1 and VRR. But both have stayed with the same overall display specs, so no real PQ improvements. As long as you don't need extended viewing angles, the X900H is worth a look but the X950H looks like a meh vs. the 2019 X950G. The only significant change is the movement of extended viewing angles to the smaller sizes.

So if Hisense, TCL and Vizio can fix their respective design and QC issues they can push aside Samsung and Sony and take over the LCD market in 2020. It's time for consumers to show their displeasure with big Samsung and Sony by leaving their less than compelling LCD offerings gathering dust at the big box stores and online retailers.
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Replacement for Panasonic 42” Plasma

I know it’s subjective but best picture is what I am looking for. Don’t need all the apps etc. as I use fire stick.

My Panasonic plasma (circa 2013)has kicked the bucket. While shopping for it I tried an LCD and hated it.

Max size 43” will fit in the bedroom. In this size I didn’t see OLED.

Budget $600.00.

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Pretty dead here so I'll comment on myself. More evidence that Samsung appears to be giving up entirely on 4K LCDs with
Rting's latest review of the 2020 TU8000. Looking at the 2018 NU8000 vs. the 2019 RU8000 vs. the 2020 TU800 we see a continuous downgrade. The NU8000 was a 120 Hz VA panel with edge local dimming, the RU8000 lost the local dimming but stayed 120 Hz, and now the TU8000 has been downgraded to a 60 Hz VA panel without local dimming. Rtings rates it dead even with the 2018 low-end NU6900 I bought for a mere $550 for a basement TV. But the new TU8000 is dimmer than the NU6900, has much less accurate color, and is afflicted with visible banding.

On the "QLED" front, the Q60T is now a 60 Hz panel like the TU8000; the Q70T has been downgraded to the equivalent of the 2019 Q60R and is now an edge lit 120 Hz VA panel without local dimming; the Q80T is now the equivalent to the 2019 Q70R with 48 FALD zones; while the Q90T has dropped to 2019 Q80R specs with 96 FALD zones. So much for "QLED" being marketed as an alternative to OLED as nobody should be thinking that now.

Sony already gave up on high-end 4K LCDs, the last being the 2018 Z9F Master series. At least the two mid range offerings for 2020 haven't seemed to downgrade, with the X900H gaining HDMI 2.1 and VRR. But both have stayed with the same overall display specs, so no real PQ improvements. As long as you don't need extended viewing angles, the X900H is worth a look but the X950H looks like a meh vs. the 2019 X950G. The only significant change is the movement of extended viewing angles to the smaller sizes.

So if Hisense, TCL and Vizio can fix their respective design and QC issues they can push aside Samsung and Sony and take over the LCD market in 2020. It's time for consumers to show their displeasure with big Samsung and Sony by leaving their less than compelling LCD offerings gathering dust at the big box stores and online retailers.
I agree with everything you said.
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I know it’s subjective but best picture is what I am looking for. Don’t need all the apps etc. as I use fire stick.

My Panasonic plasma (circa 2013)has kicked the bucket. While shopping for it I tried an LCD and hated it.
Max size 43” will fit in the bedroom. In this size I didn’t see OLED.
Budget $600.00.
Thanks in advance for the recommendations.
At 43" much product is IPS (wide-angle, less contrast) panel and Edge-lit, which can lead to light leakage.

For VA panel (in-front viewing with better contrast), Chinese TVs--Vizio, TCL. Be prepared for panel lottery (DSE, banding, screen uniformity) and returning for exchange or refund. Should look before you leap. Good luck, have fun.

Possible TVs (2019):

Vizio M437-G0 (or 2020 equivalent)

TCL 5 Series/S525 (or 2020 equivalent)

Related:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...ries-s525-2019
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What to buy 75in <$3k

This happens every ~5 years when I inevitably am forced to upgrade for some reason: analysis paralysis. I need a 75in display and can't wait until new models come out - Covid is crushing everything and I just need to get my display asap - right now i have nothing.

I watch mainly sports (when they were on) - football, basketball, golf, hockey. I watch netflix and hbo shows. I watch films occasionally from home server and blu rays sparingly. Basically i watch everything. I sit 12 feet from the screen and watch in mixed lighting. Basically i need an all around TV, although I don't think i really care about watching from a wide angle (unless it's totally useless from the sides, which I don't think any are).

I am coming from a 2016 Vizio D65u. It seemed fine. Didn't handle dark scenes in game of thrones as well as i would have liked, fwiw.

At first I was thinking Sony 950G, but blooming seems annoying and scares me. I don't think I can wait until the H models come out and from what I've read here, no one is expecting much improvement.

LG Oleds seem perfect, but the 65in B9 is sub 2k while the 75in is over 4k! Seems like a crazy spread and it's the end of the model year so that 75in oled.

I don't really want to deal with the panel lottery during Covid. Best Buy just announced they won't do in-house setup - they will only bring it to your door. I don't know if that means I should rule out a TCL 8 Series, but I did read on this forum that someone with significant banding got TCL warranty to come in and install a new display. That kind of support seems appealing.

Samsung I keep reading about how 2019 models are worse than 2018, that's not cool.

Vizio PX. Appears to be the cheapest option by far and maybe that makes sense when nothing else stands out.

All thoughts are welcome!

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Samsung I keep reading about how 2019 models are worse than 2018, that's not cool.
No, the 2019 Samsung models are fine, it's the new 2020 models you don't want the as they are a step back. So, since you're averse to Sony's tendency for blooming, you could look at the 75" "QLED"/VA panel Samsung Q70R with 48 FALD zones and Q80R with 96 FALD zones. The Vizio P Series Quantum X is worth a look but be aware of QC issues in screen uniformity and visible banding so the panel lottery is in play. Also there are the age old Vizio upscaling issues for 480p and 720p content which may or may not be important to you. It does have 480 FALD zones, and the dimming algorithm handles blooming better than in previous models. Both the Q70R and P Quantum X have narrow viewing angles with their deep blacks compromised at under 20° off angle (Rtings measured just 13° for the Vizio and 17° for the Q70R). The Q80R has excellent wide angle performance with blacks good to 70° off angle.
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At first I was thinking Sony 950G, but blooming seems annoying and scares me. I don't think I can wait until the H models come out and from what I've read here, no one is expecting much improvement.
All thoughts are welcome! CaliJ
I suggest waiting for the Sony X900H 75", MSRP $2199.99, early May launch (in 40+ days). Specs sheet (pdf) available at Value Electronics website. Good luck, have fun with whatever you decide.

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I've a Samsung QN65Q9F (the 2018 QLED 65 inch TV) and it's dying. I've a warranty on it, so it's not all bad. I've been given a choice between some TVs and I'm scratching my head at what's worth it vs what I should just accept..

My options..

Free swap -- 2019 QN65Q90RA.. same TV I have only a year newer

$300 a 2020 QN65Q90TA

$380 a 2019 8K Samsung QLED TV QN65Q900

$1200 a 2020 8K Samsung QLED. QN65Q800T

I've liked the TV I have well enough. It's a bummer it started getting patches of darkening on it. Is 8K worth the price of admission? I'm not aware of anything that would really drive it, but it *might* be future proof..? I'm currently driving what I have with a Xbox One X and DirecTV (one day someone will explain the need to have 2 boxes for 4K.. ). The guy I'm working with at the shop tells me that the 8K TV upscales stuff... but I'm not sure how true that is, or how well it works. I've till Weds to make my choice.. I keep going round and round on TV hype as I look around. I figured I'd ask here as I've gotten good advice before..

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I've a Samsung QN65Q9F (the 2018 QLED 65 inch TV) and it's dying. I've a warranty on it, so it's not all bad. I've been given a choice between some TVs and I'm scratching my head at what's worth it vs what I should just accept..

My options..

Free swap -- 2019 QN65Q90RA.. same TV I have only a year newer

$300 a 2020 QN65Q90TA

$380 a 2019 8K Samsung QLED TV QN65Q900

$1200 a 2020 8K Samsung QLED. QN65Q800T

I've liked the TV I have well enough. It's a bummer it started getting patches of darkening on it. Is 8K worth the price of admission? I'm not aware of anything that would really drive it, but it *might* be future proof..? I'm currently driving what I have with a Xbox One X and DirecTV (one day someone will explain the need to have 2 boxes for 4K.. ). The guy I'm working with at the shop tells me that the 8K TV upscales stuff... but I'm not sure how true that is, or how well it works. I've till Weds to make my choice.. I keep going round and round on TV hype as I look around. I figured I'd ask here as I've gotten good advice before..

Thanks in advance..
Go for the free Q90R. Nothing for an 8K display so what's the point. Native 4K is better than upscaled 8K.
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At 43" much product is IPS (wide-angle, less contrast) panel and Edge-lit, which can lead to light leakage.

For VA panel (in-front viewing with better contrast), Chinese TVs--Vizio, TCL. Be prepared for panel lottery (DSE, banding, screen uniformity) and returning for exchange or refund. Should look before you leap. Good luck, have fun.

Possible TVs (2019):

Vizio M437-G0 (or 2020 equivalent)

TCL 5 Series/S525 (or 2020 equivalent)

Related:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...ries-s525-2019

For that money, they can get a 55" TCL R625 and get close to the black levels of that plasma set they had. No need to stoop down to the 5 series.


Or wait just a little while longer, and the 2020 5 series will get the FALD tech from the 2019 6 series. (and the 6 series becomes Mini-LED with 800+ dimming zones) and the cost should be close to the same.


Either way with a contrast ration in the 8000:1 range, black levels wont be an issue. And with HDR/Dolby Vision, visuals will look stunning

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For that money, they can get a 55" TCL R625 and get close to the black levels of that plasma set they had. No need to stoop down to the 5 series.
Or wait just a little while longer, and the 2020 5 series will get the FALD tech from the 2019 6 series. (and the 6 series becomes Mini-LED with 800+ dimming zones) and the cost should be close to the same.
Either way with a contrast ration in the 8000:1 range, black levels wont be an issue. And with HDR/Dolby Vision, visuals will look stunning
Thank you. Unless a buyer insists upon, and/or has basement budget, I recommend these TVs (TCL, Vizio, Hisense) of any series as a last resort.

There's too much panel lottery involved with DSE, banding, screen uniformity. Also, SDR is not good. You get what you pay for, which is too often exchange or refund. Good all around TVs they are not IMO.

Good news for fans of these TVs, tech workers should be back to work soon, if not already.

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Thank you. Unless a buyer insists upon, and/or has basement budget, I recommend these TVs (TCL, Vizio, Hisense) of any series as a last resort.

There's too much panel lottery involved with DSE, banding, screen uniformity. Also, SDR is not good. You get what you pay for, which is too often exchange or refund. Good all around TVs they are not IMO.
+1.

I agree 100% but am hopeful they will improve as Samsung's and Sony's LCDs aren't compelling anymore.
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I agree 100% but am hopeful they will improve as Samsung's and Sony's LCDs aren't compelling anymore.
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Thank you. Unless a buyer insists upon, and/or has basement budget, I recommend these TVs (TCL, Vizio, Hisense) of any series as a last resort.

There's too much panel lottery involved with DSE, banding, screen uniformity. Also, SDR is not good. You get what you pay for, which is too often exchange or refund. Good all around TVs they are not IMO.

Good news for fans of these TVs, tech workers should be back to work soon, if not already.

Cheers. Stay safe.
I'm going by the price to performance ratio. If a person says they have $600 to spend, then TCL, Vizio and Hisense is where they should be looking. The models they have in that price range kick the absolute crap out of the Sony, Samsung and LG models at those prices.
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Thank you. Unless a buyer insists upon, and/or has basement budget, I recommend these TVs (TCL, Vizio, Hisense) of any series as a last resort.

There's too much panel lottery involved with DSE, banding, screen uniformity. Also, SDR is not good. You get what you pay for, which is too often exchange or refund. Good all around TVs they are not IMO.

Good news for fans of these TVs, tech workers should be back to work soon, if not already.

Cheers. Stay safe.

I needed to replace my bedroom TV (10yo Sony 52NX800 that I loved) last month, I bought a Hisense H6590f at the military exchange for $400. Granted it isn't nearly the TV my Sony 900E is but not bad for the bedroom at only $400, plus it's an AndroidTV which is a plus in my book. Hopefully it lasts nearly as long as the Sony.

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No 820 player or 4K set for us until fall/winter

With COVID-19 and our age (71-69), I guess this isn't the best time to be buying a 820 player, and a 4K set. So, after talking it through, we have decided not to buy an 820 now, and to wait until this fall/winter to buy a 4K set.

We are thinking about a 2020 85" VIZIO P-Series Quantum X.

By waiting until this fall/winter, we will save $$$$ (we're not rich) and, thanks to AVS, by reading the posts of the guinea pigs here who will buy an 85" VIZIO ASAP, we will be able to judge whether or not VIZIO has improved their QC, before we spend our $$$$.

So, we will continue to use our 420 player and our ancient 6 year old Epson 5030UB projector (with help from our Darbee) with our 159" screen for 1080, until this fall/winter.
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At 43" much product is IPS (wide-angle, less contrast) panel and Edge-lit, which can lead to light leakage.

For VA panel (in-front viewing with better contrast), Chinese TVs--Vizio, TCL. Be prepared for panel lottery (DSE, banding, screen uniformity) and returning for exchange or refund. Should look before you leap. Good luck, have fun.

Possible TVs (2019):

Vizio M437-G0 (or 2020 equivalent)

TCL 5 Series/S525 (or 2020 equivalent)

Related:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...ries-s525-2019
Ended up getting the Vizio and I am quite pleased with the picture. I can’t do a side by side as my Plasma is dead, but I think the picture of the Vizio is equal.

I went to Costco and looked at the 43” displays they had on the shelf’s and they did not look good. Because of the wife missing the bedroom TV I almost just went with the Costco model TCL. I’m glad I didn’t.

The LCD displays are so much better than the last time I brought one home. It lasted all of two days before I returned it. The “soap opera” affect made it unbearable for me to watch. The plasma served me well for 6+ years.
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Ended up getting the Vizio and I am quite pleased with the picture. I can’t do a side by side as my Plasma is dead, but I think the picture of the Vizio is equal.

I went to Costco and looked at the 43” displays they had on the shelf’s and they did not look good. Because of the wife missing the bedroom TV I almost just went with the Costco model TCL. I’m glad I didn’t.

The LCD displays are so much better than the last time I brought one home. It lasted all of two days before I returned it. The “soap opera” affect made it unbearable for me to watch. The plasma served me well for 6+ years.
Thanks for reporting back, Drew. Glad it worked out.

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I myself am in the hunt for a 43" display for an arcade cabinet. It currently has a 32" gaming monitor with freesync. It's decent but the cabinet really needs a larger size. I'm hoping some TV manufacturer puts hdmi VRR in a set this small. I've noticed the trend of the smaller panels always getting short changed on the features of its bigger brethren.

The hopefuls are TCL 5 series and Vizio M. There's rumors that the tcl will be like the 6 series from last year but that's just a rumor. Do the 6 series s from last year support hdmi vrr yet?



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I myself am in the hunt for a 43" display for an arcade cabinet. It currently has a 32" gaming monitor with freesync. It's decent but the cabinet really needs a larger size. I'm hoping some TV manufacturer puts hdmi VRR in a set this small. I've noticed the trend of the smaller panels always getting short changed on the features of its bigger brethren.

The hopefuls are TCL 5 series and Vizio M. There's rumors that the tcl will be like the 6 series from last year but that's just a rumor. Do the 6 series s from last year support hdmi vrr yet?
As you may imagine, up-to-date info is scant at the moment.

Re above bold lettering, NO and YES.

Suggest checking AVS Forum 2019 TCL 6-Series Owners Thread(s) re rumored VRR update for select models.

2020 info reported early January, as follows.

https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-6-series-sets
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