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I just got a firmware update for the first time in forever. M601d-A3R, just updated to firmware version 2.0.6a.0090. Anyone have any ideas what is in this firmware? I couldn't find anything on the Vizio site.
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I just got a firmware update for the first time in forever. M601d-A3R, just updated to firmware version 2.0.6a.0090. Anyone have any ideas what is in this firmware? I couldn't find anything on the Vizio site.
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I just got a firmware update for the first time in forever. M601d-A3R, just updated to firmware version 2.0.6a.0090. Anyone have any ideas what is in this firmware? I couldn't find anything on the Vizio site.
Got the same update on my M701d-a3. Looks the same as before, cave tell anything changed?
Anyone know what it's about?
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M321i-A2 - V2.0.6a.0888_123

Just got this update on my M321i-A2 - V2.0.6a.0888_123

Asked Vizio support and got this...

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That update primary goal was for some system improvements but they didn't specify exactly what in the system that was. It also did some changes to the Yahoo Platform for future Yahoo apps. Again, they did not specify what apps those would affect.
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Just got this update on my M321i-A2 - V2.0.6a.0888_123

Asked Vizio support and got this...

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That update primary goal was for some system improvements but they didn't specify exactly what in the system that was. It also did some changes to the Yahoo Platform for future Yahoo apps. Again, they did not specify what apps those would affect.
I thought Yahoo was discontinuing support for their TV platform?
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I thought Yahoo was discontinuing support for their TV platform?
Don't know what your sources are but I doubt it considering the change Vizio did and maybe Verizon wants to keep it?
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The ol' "we're working on a fix" line. I remember hearing that back when they put out a firmware that busted Smart Dimming. It took them easily 5-6 months to get a new firmware out to fix it, and that was for a relatively huge issue.

Their TV's are great, but man, Vizios firmwares are utter trash. It's also idiotic that you can't manually revert.
This is why I'll never buy another Vizio product, I went through the busted Smart Dimming debacle and waiting 6 months for a FW fix. Browsing through the P-series thread I see similar issues with FW. I'm just waiting on OLED technology to mature a little and Sony's entrance into OLED looks promising as well.

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This is why I'll never buy another Vizio product, I went through the busted Smart Dimming debacle and waiting 6 months for a FW fix. Browsing through the P-series thread I see similar issues with FW. I'm just waiting on OLED technology to mature a little and Sony's entrance into OLED looks promising as well.
The problem Vizio is having now, IMHO, is their big advantage in prior years was they offered the best quality to value in the market. I don't think thats the case anymore. Look at the street prices for the latest Samsung KS8000 series for instance. Thats what I chose and I must say its a fantastic total package. Looks, picture refinement. Build quality may or may not wind up being an issue with these sets, time will tell but isn't that the case with any brand these days?

Especially with the latest 2016 models, I think they made a big misread with regards to having all of their smart apps be tablet based. I know I for one don't want to be tethered to looking on a 7inch screen to choose content for a 65inch TV. Just seems like a silly idea to me. Also removing the internal tuner seems foolish as well. Then trying to promote it as a feature. I saw an aside that they have lost a little market share this year so my opinion must be shared by others.

I still have 3 Vizios in use at my house so I will always consider them going forward, but they need to refocus on what made them successful. Quality to value.
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Random stuttering/lag on m601d-ar3

I've had my m601d-ar3 for 3+ years now, and lately I'm noticing a new issue (I've already reset the tv).

I'm certain of the exact word to use, but the best I can thing of is stuttering/lag/decreased FPS seemingly at random.

It is occurs with various devices (Apple TV, DirectTV box), with different HDMI cables/inputs. It does not seem to happen consistently between TV channels, or Apple TV apps.

For example at times it could play as normal on Comedy Central, the next I'll have the issue. Or perhaps I'll watch Mad Men on Netflix with no issues, then I'll watch the Crown and the issue will appear (Oddly enough it ALWAYS happens with The Crown...not sure what that means).

Has anyone else experienced this issue? I searched the thread for "stutter" but nothing seemed to quite match up.

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Another new firmware update

Today they just push my M551d-A2R firmware
V2.0.13.0888_125
Still don't know what may have been added or changed
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I've had my m601d-ar3 for 3+ years now, and lately I'm noticing a new issue (I've already reset the tv).

I'm certain of the exact word to use, but the best I can thing of is stuttering/lag/decreased FPS seemingly at random.

It is occurs with various devices (Apple TV, DirectTV box), with different HDMI cables/inputs. It does not seem to happen consistently between TV channels, or Apple TV apps.

For example at times it could play as normal on Comedy Central, the next I'll have the issue. Or perhaps I'll watch Mad Men on Netflix with no issues, then I'll watch the Crown and the issue will appear (Oddly enough it ALWAYS happens with The Crown...not sure what that means).

Has anyone else experienced this issue? I searched the thread for "stutter" but nothing seemed to quite match up.

Thanks!
I have experienced something like what you describe on my m60. However, I have only seen it on a few Hallmark Channel movies. Absolutely no issues with DVDs, Blu-Rays or streamed content. I attribute the problem to DirecTV.
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Today they just push my M551d-A2R firmware
V2.0.13.0888_125
Still don't know what may have been added or changed
I got it too. Haven't noticed anything different.
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M321i-A2 - V2.0.13.0888_123

I noticed that my TV firmware was updated. Chatted with the support and I got this information.

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The update added some system improvements but did not say what those were but did state the update also was applied to update the VIA dock for potential future updated apps that was needed.
Maybe the TV gonna get some revised and/or new VIA apps in the near future

I now suspect that Vizio maybe moving to another platform if Yahoo Store is going away?

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SOMEBODY CALL VIZIO and ask what the updated firmware did! I can't.

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All this time, all these updates, and stretching 4:3 content is still broken.
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so have a bit of a saga to tell, apologies in advance for massive wall of text post...

i had been using this led rope light as a bias light since new (almost 3 years) plugged into a usb triggered outlet(plug box into outlet, plug rope light into box, and hook usb line from box to tv so that when tv goes on/off the light coordinates) recently saw this 'luminoodle' self adhesive led bias light strip by a company called power products on amazon that just plugs directly into the usb port on tv's according to their products.

picked one up, installed it on my m701d and notice the lights don't seem like 6000k ish, but warmer maybe 5k or less

after about 20min of viewing, the bias light starts flashing on and off quickly, after a few seconds of that the entire display goes black and won't turn back on. frantic scrambling online looking for options try the hard power resets to no avail. then after unplugging and plugging in several times the display powers up to alternating static/black screens and doesn't respond to any remote (stock or harmony) nor does the power button on the back work.
after several more iterations of trying to hard power reset it the power button actually works to change inputs for about 30 seconds and get it to the point where it displays the roku video thru my denon receiver then the button stops working again. but the only way to turn display on and off is with power cord... finally it appears to give up the ghost all together and doesn't turn on again. after contacting vizio and iti find out an out of warranty repair is either $454 if they can fix it or $70 if they can, set up the repair.

the luminoodle people were baffled, saying they've never had anything like this happen and cannot believe their strip blew out my tv. then also point out that in fine print on the instructions it states that the strip needs up to 1a of power from the usb port to work(amazon page only claims .5a) regardless, there's no way to really know the capability of the port...

they did continue to try to be helpful in finding a solution to the technical issue and claimed they couldn't get vizio to tell them the power capabilities of the usb port (does any tv maker list how much power their usb ports can supply?) and made suggestions to me on things to try to get things working (none of which worked obviously since display out right died).

repair guy comes last night with new power board and main board, tell him story and he agrees no way could usb port support that much current. swap out boards, tv lives again.
this I time dig up a 1a usb wall wart from box of old chargers/etc, reinstall the usb triggered power supply with the wallwart and use that to power the luminoodle (kind of how i had it before with the rope light)
sent a message to luminoodle people to call me back so we can continue our discussion from last week of troubleshooting and see what they think about my $454 bill to fix my tv...

so anyhoo, tv updates to 1.34 firmware overnight, although everyone else seems to be on 2.xx something?
does anyone have calibration values since i lost all my old settings i had previously

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so have a bit of a saga to tell, apologies in advance for massive wall of text post...

i had been using this led rope light as a bias light since new (almost 3 years) plugged into a usb triggered outlet(plug box into outlet, plug rope light into box, and hook usb line from box to tv so that when tv goes on/off the light coordinates) recently saw this 'luminoodle' self adhesive led bias light strip by a company called power products on amazon that just plugs directly into the usb port on tv's according to their products.

picked one up, installed it on my m701d and notice the lights don't seem like 6000k ish, but warmer maybe 5k or less

after about 20min of viewing, the bias light starts flashing on and off quickly, after a few seconds of that the entire display goes black and won't turn back on. frantic scrambling online looking for options try the hard power resets to no avail. then after unplugging and plugging in several times the display powers up to alternating static/black screens and doesn't respond to any remote (stock or harmony) nor does the power button on the back work.
after several more iterations of trying to hard power reset it the power button actually works to change inputs for about 30 seconds and get it to the point where it displays the roku video thru my denon receiver then the button stops working again. but the only way to turn display on and off is with power cord... finally it appears to give up the ghost all together and doesn't turn on again. after contacting vizio and iti find out an out of warranty repair is either $454 if they can fix it or $70 if they can, set up the repair.

the luminoodle people were baffled, saying they've never had anything like this happen and cannot believe their strip blew out my tv. then also point out that in fine print on the instructions it states that the strip needs up to 1a of power from the usb port to work(amazon page only claims .5a) regardless, there's no way to really know the capability of the port...

they did continue to try to be helpful in finding a solution to the technical issue and claimed they couldn't get vizio to tell them the power capabilities of the usb port (does any tv maker list how much power their usb ports can supply?) and made suggestions to me on things to try to get things working (none of which worked obviously since display out right died).

repair guy comes last night with new power board and main board, tell him story and he agrees no way could usb port support that much current. swap out boards, tv lives again.
this I time dig up a 1a usb wall wart from box of old chargers/etc, reinstall the usb triggered power supply with the wallwart and use that to power the luminoodle (kind of how i had it before with the rope light)
sent a message to luminoodle people to call me back so we can continue our discussion from last week of troubleshooting and see what they think about my $454 bill to fix my tv...

so anyhoo, tv updates to 1.34 firmware overnight, although everyone else seems to be on 2.xx something?
does anyone have calibration values since i lost all my old settings i had previously
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You probably blew the capacitors on the board. I would never plug anything into my USB ports on a TV other than a thumb drive unless it's powered. They sell a USB adapter for the Amazon Fire Stick and I won't even use that. Someone I know plugged one into his TV and it eventually went out. He took out the board and noticed the capacitors were blown, replaced them and it worked fine.


I have some led light strips that started blinking one day, I tested the power supply on them and it was only putting out 1v so I took it apart and the capacitors were blown, I replaced them and they work fine.


It seems the manufacturers of these capacitors are putting out junk these days. Onkyo had a recall on their receivers because of them blowing.
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Apologizes if this is in the wrong thread, was trying to find a "Official 2014 Vizio M-Series Owner's Thread" or a troubleshooting thread.


I own a Vizio M651D-A2R, over a week ago before I want on vacation it worked just fine. I come back and it no longer will turn on. It's on a Monster brand surge protector. I don't believe we lost power when we were away because my alarm system would of had a message in the keypad/display. Any help would be appreciated, some research I was looking at said it might be the main board? Not shy about taking it apart to look, I've done a convergence chip swap on my Hitachi projection TV. (That TV lasted 10 years, and still worked when I bought the Vizio!)
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4k signal

is vizio m501d-a2r capable accepting 4k signal ?
connected my 4k player through denon x2300w and its says resolution is 3840x2160.
picture looks way better than regular bluray and colors are close to hdr quality
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is vizio m501d-a2r capable accepting 4k signal ?
connected my 4k player through denon x2300w and its says resolution is 3840x2160.
picture looks way better than regular bluray and colors are close to hdr quality
Why would you want to run a 4K source into a 1080p display?
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Official Vizio M-Series Razor Mxx1i thread

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Unhappy Vizio M651d-a2r and M422i-B1 Remote Troubles

I purchased two Vizio TVs, the M651d-a2r and the M422i-B1. The TV's have performed great and I have really enjoyed them. Unfortunately, I have always had problems with the TV's being able to communicate with the original remotes. Every time I want to turn the TVs on or adjust the volume or change the channel it's a crapshoot. I have contacted Vizio and they have sent me replacement remotes in the past but I still have the same problem. I purchased universal remotes as well as Harmony remotes but still the same problem. The TVs still have trouble executing the signals the remotes are sending. I also contacted Vizio to make sure I had the latest firmware updates on the TVs and they did.
I also have a Sony, Samsung, and Philips tv and they have never had this problem.
I have searched online to no avail. Does anyone else have this same problem? Any working solutions? I am so frustrated, because other than that the TVs work great.
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I purchased two Vizio TVs, the M651d-a2r and the M422i-B1. The TV's have performed great and I have really enjoyed them. Unfortunately, I have always had problems with the TV's being able to communicate with the original remotes. Every time I want to turn the TVs on or adjust the volume or change the channel it's a crap-shoot. I have contacted Vizio and they have sent me replacement remotes in the past but I still have the same problem.


I once had an M40 TV. The remote sensor is located where the Power LED indicator is mounted. The sensor faces down. Poor remote control performance. I got a tiny mirror and mounted it on a stand at 45 degree angle right under the Power LED indicator. The remote control performance was better.

If you don't have a small 'tile' mirror, try something reflective enough for the IR light to bounce up into the sensor. Perhaps some small object wrapped in foil or something white or light colored that's reflective and shiny enough to reflect an image. A mirror is best.


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As mentioned, poor design pointed the IR receiver down on many of this series. I took a piece of aluminum foil and made a reflector that sits under the sensor. Problem solved.
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I purchased two Vizio TVs, the M651d-a2r and the M422i-B1. The TV's have performed great and I have really enjoyed them. Unfortunately, I have always had problems with the TV's being able to communicate with the original remotes. Every time I want to turn the TVs on or adjust the volume or change the channel it's a crapshoot. I have contacted Vizio and they have sent me replacement remotes in the past but I still have the same problem. I purchased universal remotes as well as Harmony remotes but still the same problem. The TVs still have trouble executing the signals the remotes are sending. I also contacted Vizio to make sure I had the latest firmware updates on the TVs and they did.
I also have a Sony, Samsung, and Philips tv and they have never had this problem.
I have searched online to no avail. Does anyone else have this same problem? Any working solutions? I am so frustrated, because other than that the TVs work great.
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I purchased two Vizio TVs, the M651d-a2r and the M422i-B1. The TV's have performed great and I have really enjoyed them. Unfortunately, I have always had problems with the TV's being able to communicate with the original remotes. Every time I want to turn the TVs on or adjust the volume or change the channel it's a crapshoot. I have contacted Vizio and they have sent me replacement remotes in the past but I still have the same problem. I purchased universal remotes as well as Harmony remotes but still the same problem. The TVs still have trouble executing the signals the remotes are sending. I also contacted Vizio to make sure I had the latest firmware updates on the TVs and they did.
I also have a Sony, Samsung, and Philips tv and they have never had this problem.
I have searched online to no avail. Does anyone else have this same problem? Any working solutions? I am so frustrated, because other than that the TVs work great.
One more solution with an “extra”

I have a small prism I mounted using clear double sided tape. Works great.

The “extra” is using lithium batteries in the remote. Seems like you get a stronger IR beam this way.
I mostly use the DirecTV remote with RF for DirecTV box control and IR for the TV functions for casual viewing.

The AVR etc for movies when using it for the HT.
Good Luck

PS: mine is the 80” 3D model
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FYI, I can use any remote with the "foil reflector". Used the DirecTV remote for years and now the ROKU remote is the primary as we've ditched DirecTV after 22 years. Both work extremely well using the unbranded batteries that came with the devices and then onto Kirkland batteries.

Don't over think this whole thing

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One more solution with an “extra”

I have a small prism I mounted using clear double sided tape. Works great.

The “extra” is using lithium batteries in the remote. Seems like you get a stronger IR beam this way.
I mostly use the DirecTV remote with RF for DirecTV box control and IR for the TV functions for casual viewing.

The AVR etc for movies when using it for the HT.
Good Luck

PS: mine is the 80” 3D model
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As mentioned, poor design pointed the IR receiver down on many of this series. I took a piece of aluminum foil and made a reflector that sits under the sensor. Problem solved.
Do you mean below it on the stand?
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This is probably larger than it need be! Others I know have taped a piece of foil to the back of the set immediately behind the sensor and bent it forward a bit. Try that if you want something "less visible".

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Do you mean below it on the stand?
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This is probably larger than it need be! Others I know have taped a piece of foil to the back of the set immediately behind the sensor and bent it forward a bit. Try that if you want something "less visible".
gonna try this thanks
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FYI, I can use any remote with the "foil reflector". Used the DirecTV remote for years and now the ROKU remote is the primary as we've ditched DirecTV after 22 years. Both work extremely well using the unbranded batteries that came with the devices and then onto Kirkland batteries.

Don't over think this whole thing
Same here. Glass prism is inconspicuous.

Reflection vs Refraction. Lol
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