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just a FYI on the gorilla glass, sony is no longer using gorilla glass on their displays.

At least they can no longer use the name "gorilla glass", I believe there will still be a comparable glass that is possibly stronger than corning's gorilla glass that will be on the display but not with the monolithic design.

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Shipping date has been removed from Sony's site. Used to be 3-19-13
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Internet-TV/en/p/KDL55W900A

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yeah,I do not see any problems on this set. 100% happy. Of course I haven't tried 3D on this set maybe this weekend too.7.gif
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I called the Sony store in Manhattan. The salesman expect a floor model at the end of the month and
expect shipments at the end of April. It looks like the TV got pushed back a bit. Im looking forward to this
more and more. I was looking at the Samsung F8000s but not sure if it much improved over the 2012 model.

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Sony's Latest Press Release

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SAN DIEGO, Mar. 17, 2013 – Following through on its product introductions in January at CES 2013, Sony today announced the arrival of its new core 2013 BRAVIA® HDTV line-up, including the debut of two new series of LED TVs created for viewers looking for an amazing high definition entertainment experience. The new models in the W- and R-series offer consumers Sony's unique combination of technology and content services, delivering life-like picture quality and immersive audio. Arriving at Sony Stores and electronics retailers nationwide now through May, consumers can enjoy these new models for as low as $399.

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New in 2013, the W900A TV incorporates TRILUMINOS Display LED backlighting to present rich, authentic color with subtle tones while also replicating bold colors including hard-to-reproduce reds, blues and greens. By integrating Quantum Dot* technology with Sony's own unique display technologies, the W900A delivers a significantly wider color gamut and provides a far more natural and vivid viewing experience with a heightened sense of depth.

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All W-Series TV models include screen mirroring via Wi-Fi, with the W900A model shipping with an NFC remote, and an optional NFC remote available for the W802A television. Additionally, all three series are MHL-ready for wired mirroring capabilities.

The KDL-W900A model comes available in a 55-inch screen size at a suggested retail price of $3,299. The KDL-W802A model is available in both 55-inch and 47-inch screen sizes, and starts at $1,799. The KDL-W650A model comes in a 32-inch screen size and a suggested retail of $799.

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Wish I can see the w802a on display already compared to the f8000 and etc. Praying the w802a will be amazing.

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The KDL-W900A model comes available in a 55-inch screen size at a suggested retail price of $3,299.

Seems like a price increase to the price increase. :/

And for those wonder what happened to the monolithic design... look no further than China's w950a. It has one sheet of glass over the whole thing. How the w900a probably should have been designed. China gets both the w900a and w950a, both edge lit.

http://www.sonystyle.com.cn/products/bravia/w950a.htm
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$3300 for their cheapest local dimming edge lit display?
They're out of their minds.
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$3300 for their cheapest local dimming edge lit display?
They're out of their minds.

This must be one hell of a TV if they are going to price it higher than the 55HX950.
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This must be one hell of a TV if they are going to price it higher than the 55HX950.
And it's not even an XBR model. I'm wondering if that's an error.
If the price is real and the step down model really doesn't have local dimming, I'm done with Sony.
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Wish I can see the w802a on display already compared to the f8000 and etc. Praying the w802a will be amazing.

The 802A is suppose to be the replacement for 2012's 750. And looking at the 55" 802a price that seems to be the case. My understanding is that there is no 2012 replacement for the 850.
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This must be one hell of a TV if they are going to price it higher than the 55HX950.
And it's not even an XBR model. I'm wondering if that's an error.
If the price is real and the step down model really doesn't have local dimming, I'm done with Sony.

I can speak for the 802, because I've been tracking the W802A and R550A and feeding info to the 2 new threads I created for them. 802 Thread. 550 Thread.

The 802 has "Frame Dimming", which if it's the same thing that Samsung did that enabled them to squash the entire screen at once, then I'm not all that psyched about it.
Further there is a concept of "dynamic edge lighting", which sounds a bit like local dimming (but referred to in reverse).

Honestly, I have no idea how either are implemented within a Sony TV.

Neither of these concepts are listed with the R550A and R520A......they're the bare bones models.
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I could be wrong but from what I understand the W900 replaces the 850. The ultra HD replaces the 950.
It's explained here, no?
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-55w900a/4505-6482_7-35561946.html

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I could be wrong but from what I understand the W900 replaces the 850. The ultra HD replaces the 950.
It's explained here, no?
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-55w900a/4505-6482_7-35561946.html

The 65 and 55 x900v2 is not a replacement for the HX950. They will continue to be available for now unless they change plans and request vendors to ship back similar to the HX850. A replacement (if they follow the same timeline from previous years) may be announced in Sept with product launch in Oct. Obviously, no one except Sony knows for sure what their plans are though.
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So either the price in the article is mistaken by $1000, or the W900 being a replacement for the HX850 is a lie.

If the latter it means Sony will have nothing comparable to the HX850 this year.
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So either the price in the article is mistaken by $1000, or the W900 being a replacement for the HX850 is a lie.

If the latter it means Sony will have nothing comparable to the HX850 this year.

DoctorM, IMHO, the W900a is most likely the HX850 replacement. Pricing probably not a mistake either.

The HX950 pricing was sort of an experiment. Overprice but limit quantity to ensure prices remain high for the entire product cycle. HX950 prices with the exception of a recent 55 sale discount of $300 have remained pretty much the same.

Sony was losing so much money they needed to limit losses and decided they wanted to try a sell less but make higher profit per tv model according to a few business articles I read when researching my 65HX950 purchase.

If this truly is the case, the $3000+ price for the W900a makes sense. Also consider its closest edge lit competition is the 55F8000 priced at $2,700. I honestly think Sony views the W900a as a flagship edge lit model, the HX950 as a separate flagship full array w/local dimming, and the x900a v1 and v2 as a whole different stratosphere so to speak.
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$799 for the 32 inch W650A? Jeez. I was interested in a nice 32" display to replace my POS 2012 Panasonic LCD. The Samsung 32F5500 retails for $479 and the only spec deficiency between the two seems to be that the Sony is 120Hz while the Samsung is 60.

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Hmmm, that latest press release was saying $1799 for the 47" W802 but the Sony site finally has a price and it's $1499. Also estimated ship date is April 23? Huh.

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Wonder what the street prices will be like by black friday?

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Keep in mind that Sony is relying on LG panels a lot more now. What did they use in 2012 for the 850/950?

http://www.zdnet.com/sony-ups-reliance-on-lg-for-lcd-screens-2062303664/

And I'm sorry, but I am really disappointed in LG panels.
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Keep in mind that Sony is relying on LG panels a lot more now. What did they use in 2012 for the 850/950?

http://www.zdnet.com/sony-ups-reliance-on-lg-for-lcd-screens-2062303664/

And I'm sorry, but I am really disappointed in LG panels.

This is at the bottom of the article-
"Correction: The Korean Times article was later updated to reflect a change in the spokesperson quoted. It cited "LG sources" rather than LG CFO Jeong Ho-young. LG also sent ZDNet Asia an e-mail to say it could not confirm statements made in the article, adding that it was unable to comment on any information regarding its customers."

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Keep in mind that Sony is relying on LG panels a lot more now. What did they use in 2012 for the 850/950?

http://www.zdnet.com/sony-ups-reliance-on-lg-for-lcd-screens-2062303664/

And I'm sorry, but I am really disappointed in LG panels.

This is at the bottom of the article-
"Correction: The Korean Times article was later updated to reflect a change in the spokesperson quoted. It cited "LG sources" rather than LG CFO Jeong Ho-young. LG also sent ZDNet Asia an e-mail to say it could not confirm statements made in the article, adding that it was unable to comment on any information regarding its customers."

Thanks for that. Scanning far too quickly, I ignored the box outright. As I dig into this, it's getting more and more vague, and there have been numerous similar reports for awhile now (2010, 2011). It still seems that this is happening now in 2012 (possibly because of the need for passive), but I'm backing away until someone "officially" says so.
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The 65 and 55 x900v2 is not a replacement for the HX950. They will continue to be available for now unless they change plans and request vendors to ship back similar to the HX850. A replacement (if they follow the same timeline from previous years) may be announced in Sept with product launch in Oct. Obviously, no one except Sony knows for sure what their plans are though.

Interesting, well i might wait on the W900a then if there is a chance we will see be 2013, 950.
However I thought the salesman at the NY Sony store said the Ultra HD 55 inch would replace the 950.
I'll stop into the store and ask again.

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We would assume that the panels are coming from LG -- 47", plus passive is a good indicator. That does leave the 70" R550A in question, because AFAIK only Sharp makes 70" panels, so maybe Sony is adding the FPR layer over someone else's panel.

The W900A uses active 3D so it may use a different panel than other 55 in the Sony lineup

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Interesting, well i might wait on the W900a then if there is a chance we will see be 2013, 950.
However I thought the salesman at the NY Sony store said the Ultra HD 55 inch would replace the 950.
I'll stop into the store and ask again.

Obviously you probably know that SOMETIMES, not always.... the least reliable people are the salesman at electronics stores.... could he be right? Sure he could.

Is he? Well, Sony is not stupid enough to not have a top of the line 65 inch model that is considered affordable.... not that $5,000 for a 65HX950 is cheap either..... but neither the W800 or W900 offer anything larger than 55. You would have to drop down to their entry level sets for that. No one knows yet how much the 65X900a V2 is going to cost, but it certainly won't be anything close to what the 65HX950 is.

If it is close in price and is the true replacement.... then I'll be the first in line with a warranty claim on my minor vertical banding, request refund, pay the difference for the 65X900a V2.

If I was a betting man....I think they will introduce a larger version of the W900a in a 65 inch model and slap the XBR tag on it to boot.
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All very dissapointing that there is no replacement for the HX 850 in a 46inch version. What are they thinking?mad.gif
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They are making the 46 for Europe.... Maybe by the Summer they will have it for the US.
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I think this model is priced at $2700 or $2800. The 55 inch 4k model is supposed to be around $5000.
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I think this model is priced at $2700 or $2800. The 55 inch 4k model is supposed to be around $5000.

That certainly is wishful thinking.

If Sony already charges a $2000 premium for just 10 inches of real estate on their flagship 2012 tvs of the same model, you really think they will only charge a $2000 premium for a 4K set over a mid tier tv of the same size in 2013?
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