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....Panel still in box on floor because "helper" not available.
The TV is really light, i easily lifted it out of the box, turned it sideways then leaned it against the wall (with the protective cover still on and the screen facing the wall), then i installed the stand from the side (super easy). Then i just flipped the TV around and placed it on my credenza. It was real easy to handle, and i'm not a big guy

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Yes, I can't stand the power LED either. I used some Dim-It strips on it to get rid of it on my 610B. No idea why Sony thinks we want to see a big glowing light at the bottom of our viewable area.
Does your model not have a setting to turn the light Off or Dark or Auto Brightness etc? My 55W800B has this.

Mine is in Settings > Preferences > scroll up a few lines to Front Panel Illumination and select it then i can change the light's behavior.


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Does your model not have a setting to turn the light Off or Dark or Auto Brightness etc? My 55W800B has this.

Mine is in Settings > Preferences > scroll up a few lines to Front Panel Illumination and select it then i can change the light's behavior.


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No such setting on the 610/630B, sadly. But thanks for help!
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I finally got around to plugging in a ethernet and updating my 48W600B to the latest PKG2.303AAA firmware. (released in june) I waited this long to make sure no one reported any issues with it and I figured id mis well do the update now since my 1 year warranty is up in a few months anyway. I leave the wifi disabled at all times, as well as every other useless smart tv and image enhancing features. Love my TV but smart tv features are gimmicks and I in no way bought this tv for that. lol The update didnt really do anything but it did meantion "Improves performance and stability of overall UI operation". Which why not?
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I can't find any vesa adapters for the 40" W600B for the US online stores anywhere. This is frustrasting.
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The TV is really light, i easily lifted it out of the box, turned it sideways then leaned it against the wall (with the protective cover still on and the screen facing the wall), then i installed the stand from the side (super easy). Then i just flipped the TV around and placed it on my credenza. It was real easy to handle, and i'm not a big guy
It's not heavy just wide. I'm very far from being a big guy. Entertaiment center is high and so need help lifting it up. So far TV is still in box. Asked 2 more people so, hopefully, one of them will be willing to help.
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Finally got my W800b set up. The display looks really good to me although some of the colors just look too bright, not natural. Too lazy to scroll through all the posts so wondering what some recommended settings might be. Thanks.

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Finally got my W800b set up. The display looks really good to me although some of the colors just look too bright, not natural. Too lazy to scroll through all the posts so wondering what some recommended settings might be. Thanks.
Turn every extra setting off xD
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Yes it is flimsy, but the whole TV is flimsy!! I'm used to well-built tank-like Panasonic Plasmas (very rigid cabinets with steel rear covers and glass screens and solid table stands) but this W800B is literally flexible (plastic screen and plastic rear cover). It feels very cheaply made. But this is the state of TV sets nowadays.

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Surprised to hear this…The 50W800B, while only 2" larger than the 48W600B, is a good 10lbs heavier--so I figured it must be made of higher quality materials (I've never had the chance to see/feel a W800B in person). I wonder what makes the W800B so much heavier then??

Anyway, my W800B is scheduled to be delivered today. They called and asked what time would work for me & I told them "afternoon is best". The guy responded with, "The driver will be there between 10am and 6pm." So why even ask what time is best for me if you're just going to hold me hostage all day long? Not real happy about this.

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Finally got my W800b set up. The display looks really good to me although some of the colors just look too bright, not natural. Too lazy to scroll through all the posts so wondering what some recommended settings might be. Thanks.
Are you also too lazy to use the "Search This Thread" function to find people's posted settings ?

I wasn't too lazy to type up several lines of all my settings and post them here, so you shouldn't bee too lazy to search for them (it's super easy to do).

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Surprised to hear this…The 50W800B, while only 2" larger than the 48W600B, is a good 10lbs heavier--so I figured it must be made of higher quality materials (I've never had the chance to see/feel a W800B in person). I wonder what makes the W800B so much heavier then??
It's probably more that the 48W600B is made of even lower-quality material than on the cheap flimsy 50W800B

Seriously, everything about my 55W800B has a really cheap flimsy plasticky feel to it. I was astounded by this when i first unpacked it. The TV actually bends a little when i turn it towards the other side of the room. It doesn't affect my enjoyment of it while watching TV and i accept it for what it is. A cheap TV with a great picture

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Are you also too lazy to use the "Search This Thread" function to find people's posted settings ?

I wasn't too lazy to type up several lines of all my settings and post them here, so you shouldn't bee too lazy to search for them (it's super easy to do).

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Yes I am being lazy and was even honest and admitted that in my post. I read through almost every post before buying the TV and also reread a few while waiting for delivery and then again while waiting to set it up and I should have printed out the settings but didn't. Always thought searching was so difficult and much harder than I can handle. (jk)

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It's probably more that the 48W600B is made of even lower-quality material than on the cheap flimsy 50W800B

Seriously, everything about my 55W800B has a really cheap flimsy plasticky feel to it. I was astounded by this when i first unpacked it. The TV actually bends a little when i turn it towards the other side of the room. It doesn't affect my enjoyment of it while watching TV and i accept it for what it is. A cheap TV with a great picture

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Being heavy and well made doesnt mean better picture quailty. I tryed and returned a few tv's before settling with the 48W600B. A 65" Vizio I got on black friday, it was very heavy and well built but had alot of backlight bleeding which made it a easy return for me, I also tryed a 50" samsung in the same price range as 48w600b and it's picture just was not there, it was a cheaper low end samsung tho but still was built like a rock. I returned it and payed like 50$ diffrence for the 48w600b and while its light and seemed cheaper made, I think its alot to do with the external power supply. The picture on it is leaps above the other 2 Tv's I tryed tho. In the end picture quailty is what you want.
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Yes I am being lazy and was even honest and admitted that in my post. I read through almost every post before buying the TV and also reread a few while waiting for delivery and then again while waiting to set it up and I should have printed out the settings but didn't. Always thought searching was so difficult and much harder than I can handle. (jk)
Go back to Jan 11th to find my settings.

For other people's settings, just search for keywords such as "color" or "sharpness" as that will reveal posts that contain those words.

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It's probably more that the 48W600B is made of even lower-quality material than on the cheap flimsy 50W800B

Seriously, everything about my 55W800B has a really cheap flimsy plasticky feel to it. I was astounded by this when i first unpacked it. The TV actually bends a little when i turn it towards the other side of the room. It doesn't affect my enjoyment of it while watching TV and i accept it for what it is. A cheap TV with a great picture

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Received my 50W800B yesterday and, also owning a 48W600B, I can confirm that the 48W600B is indeed made with even cheaper materials. I actually think the 50W800B feels high quality in comparison, although the back is quite flimsy…I was afraid I was going to accidentally damage it or the screen while removing it from the box and carrying it down the stairs. There's just no "sturdy" place to grip it at. The bezel & screen though are definitely higher quality materials, although I don't really see much improvement in terms of picture quality. If anything I almost think the 48W600B had slightly better color (all settings the same). The 50W800B is a bit clearer and has less motion blur when playing GTAV, which was my main reason for buying it--so I'm happy Oh and the uniformity is MUCH better…my 48W600B had a really bad cloudy corner and suffered from DSE.

EDIT: Never mind, now that I've put the 50W800B in its place at eye level, I see that it too has pretty bad clouding in the same corner as my W600B had it + another good sized splotch. I'd had it set up on the floor temporarily while I played around with it, and for some reason it wasn't noticeable from that angle. Not happy!

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Received my 50W800B yesterday and, also owning a 48W600B, I can confirm that the 48W600B is indeed made with even cheaper materials. I actually think the 50W800B feels high quality in comparison, although the back is quite flimsy…I was afraid I was going to accidentally damage it or the screen while removing it from the box and carrying it down the stairs. There's just no "sturdy" place to grip it at. The bezel & screen though are definitely higher quality materials, although I don't really see much improvement in terms of picture quality. If anything I almost think the 48W600B had slightly better color (all settings the same). The 50W800B is a bit clearer and has less motion blur when playing GTAV, which was my main reason for buying it--so I'm happy Oh and the uniformity is MUCH better…my 48W600B had a really bad cloudy corner and suffered from DSE.
One thing I know is great about my 48W600B I have is that its color and its color accurracy out of the box is top notch. I would of gotten a 800B but it was out of my price range
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Thanks. Will check that out.

I've been doing some streaming from Amazon and notice that when I go to HOME sometimes I get a warning that it's waiting for power signal or something like that. Also sometimes the wifi cuts out while I'm watching something via Amazon. Notice some blurring during fast movements but it's very inconsistent although sometimes distracting. I will do a search here and see if I can find any additional information on this. Does not take away anything from the TV, though. I'm very much enjoying it.
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Thanks. Will check that out.

I've been doing some streaming from Amazon and notice that when I go to HOME sometimes I get a warning that it's waiting for power signal or something like that. Also sometimes the wifi cuts out while I'm watching something via Amazon. Notice some blurring during fast movements but it's very inconsistent although sometimes distracting. I will do a search here and see if I can find any additional information on this. Does not take away anything from the TV, though. I'm very much enjoying it.
I've read this entire thread over the past month (sad, but true) and I saw a couple others complaining about the picture stutter. One even returned his because of it. There's no solution other than turning on MotionFlow which of course makes everything look weird, depending on the source. Having owned three different Sonys now (590B, 600B and now 800B) I can tell you that every single one of them has had wifi issues. It's one of my chief complaints. Even when the wifi is working, all of my Sonys would default to streaming Hulu at 1.5Mb/s whereas the Samsung H8000 I had set up literally right next to it would stream at 2Mb/s--which of course helped the Samsung's picture look nicer. So the Sony just doesn't grab wifi signal as well, for whatever reason. I wish I knew how to fix that but multiple calls to Sony have not resulted in a solution.

And yea, all of these models require the TV to 'power on' before you can get to the Home screen or whatever they call it. It's a small annoyance which Sony COULD make less annoying by simply loading the Home screen once the TV is ready -or- by having some other sort of indicator to let us know that the powering on process is complete so that we don't have to just sit there mashing the 'Home' button until it finally goes through. That just seems like stupid engineering to me.
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I've read this entire thread over the past month (sad, but true) and I saw a couple others complaining about the picture stutter. One even returned his because of it. There's no solution other than turning on MotionFlow which of course makes everything look weird, depending on the source. Having owned three different Sonys now (590B, 600B and now 800B) I can tell you that every single one of them has had wifi issues. It's one of my chief complaints. Even when the wifi is working, all of my Sonys would default to streaming Hulu at 1.5Mb/s whereas the Samsung H8000 I had set up literally right next to it would stream at 2Mb/s--which of course helped the Samsung's picture look nicer. So the Sony just doesn't grab wifi signal as well, for whatever reason. I wish I knew how to fix that but multiple calls to Sony have not resulted in a solution.

And yea, all of these models require the TV to 'power on' before you can get to the Home screen or whatever they call it. It's a small annoyance which Sony COULD make less annoying by simply loading the Home screen once the TV is ready -or- by having some other sort of indicator to let us know that the powering on process is complete so that we don't have to just sit there mashing the 'Home' button until it finally goes through. That just seems like stupid engineering to me.
On your first point, Sony doesn't seem to like WiFi. I have mine powered by a TiVo, which has no problem streaming Amazon 1080/p24. But its internal WiFi isn't much better, so I use an ASUS EA-N66R. I also find both my Sony Blu-ray players have poor WiFi, not even supporting the 5GHz band. They have options to help their internet stream, but I stick with the TiVo.

My first panel from Sony would have a power on display of the word Sony until it was ready to go. That caused people to complain about the wait for a picture. So Sony decided to show the picture even though, as you noticed, the unit is still waking up. This applies to the newest Blu-ray also. I guess they must appeal to the largest number of users. Maybe they should have a "fast start" option for the TV like the Blu-ray.
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Not going to return it for the stuttering which is very inconsistent. As for the wifi it is irritating especially when you are watching something and it cuts out and you get thrown out from whatever you are watching but not worth it to return it for that. I do not have the best internet via Verizon so I am going to put some, but not all, of the blame on that. I've had buffering issues from time to time when I stream things on the computer, too.
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Not going to return it for the stuttering which is very inconsistent. As for the wifi it is irritating especially when you are watching something and it cuts out and you get thrown out from whatever you are watching but not worth it to return it for that. I do not have the best internet via Verizon so I am going to put some, but not all, of the blame on that. I've had buffering issues from time to time when I stream things on the computer, too.
I've actually been in the middle of a movie before and had the TV lose wifi connection for no apparent reason--and then STAY offline for the better part of a day before I could get it up & running again (and it was never anything I did that got it up & running again--it would just come back randomly whenever it felt like it). Neither refreshing the connection nor calling Sony and tweaking the network settings did anything to get it back online. One time they even had me do a complete factory reset which of course sucked. None of the other wifi-enabled devices in my home have issues like this, so I know it's the TV(s). The Samsung I had for a brief time never had wifi issues and I had it set up in the same room.
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Hi guys,

A question,

When the battery starts to go with the active 3d glasses do they just stop working or is there any sort of slow 3d degregation to look out for? Know the quality varies from one title to another but wanted to know if there were any red flags or to simply wait till there is no more effect or it needs to be repowered every few minutes.

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What is a better TV, 60W850b or x850c?
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I am happy with my W800B, I use it as a computer monitor and for PC games, also use it on my Xbox One. If I had to rate it then I would give it 7.7/10, would be 8/10 if it had the vivid picture setting available in gaming mode but it isn't a big deal.

Does the W800B have HDMI 2.0? If so, which ports are HDMI 2.0?
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post #2368 of 2631 Old 08-24-2015, 02:07 PM
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For those with the 50W800B, does your screen have much clouding other than the little 'bunny ears' down by the Sony logo? It seems almost everyone has the bunny ears, but my screen has pretty bad splotches of clouding in a few other areas of the screen as well. It's only really noticeable when the screen is black, but it's distracting and disappointing every time I see it. I thought my W600B had bad clouding, but this thing gives it a run for its money. I called Sony and they said they might be able to replace the entire TV, but I don't know if it's worth the risk if this is a pretty common issue. What if the replacement is even worse and/or comes with dead pixels? (This TV has none). What do you guys think?
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BB has the 800B on sale this week. Is everyone happy with it for the most part?
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For those with the 50W800B, does your screen have much clouding other than the little 'bunny ears' down by the Sony logo? It seems almost everyone has the bunny ears, but my screen has pretty bad splotches of clouding in a few other areas of the screen as well. It's only really noticeable when the screen is black, but it's distracting and disappointing every time I see it. I thought my W600B had bad clouding, but this thing gives it a run for its money. I called Sony and they said they might be able to replace the entire TV, but I don't know if it's worth the risk if this is a pretty common issue. What if the replacement is even worse and/or comes with dead pixels? (This TV has none). What do you guys think?
I think that the black screen, or lack of a signal, is really bad. I see it frequently. The quality of the picture when it is doing its job makes me forget it.
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