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Well we all know the OLED is going to smoke everything else, period and end of that discussion .
You are the only one who gets away with these comments. Do you know when the 77" is coming out?
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I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure the android TV is a set top box similar to apple tv. I guess the current TVs could receive an update, but I think it is future TVs and that link is wrong.
it'll be surely a set top box but also an integrated function for 2015 Sony and Sharp HD and 4K TVs. but mashable it's probably wrong in its announce, maybe they meant 2015.. pretty sure about that.
not so bad, I'll buy the set top box, hoping it will support 4K output and offered at a reasonable price..
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I would think it would have been mentioned if it supported 4k...

The twitter post says 4k TVs, but google just said sharp and lg will have android tv integrated. No mention of 4k.
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I would think it would have been mentioned if it supported 4k...

The twitter post says 4k TVs, but google just said sharp and lg will have android tv integrated. No mention of 4k.
no, also Sony.
4K support isn't announced, but I hope so.

EDIT: LG will help Google to produce the set top box.

EDIT 2: http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/25/a...paign=Engadget
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no, also Sony.
4K support isn't announced, but I hope so.

EDIT: LG will help Google to produce the set top box.

EDIT 2: http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/25/a...paign=Engadget
Oh and I remember netflix saying that if your TV is 4k capable and the HEVC decoder is on board (via the tv or 3rd party) the netflix app will recognize that and stream in 4k. If that is true, android tv netflix app would support 4k.

That may be the future for those companies. Much easier than having to create their own interface.
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Oh and I remember netflix saying that if your TV is 4k capable and the HEVC decoder is on board (via the tv or 3rd party) the netflix app will recognize that and stream in 4k. If that is true, android tv netflix app would support 4k.

That may be the future for those companies. Much easier than having to create their own interface.
absolutely agree!
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Well we all know the OLED is going to smoke everything else, period and end of that discussion .
Hmm, not so sure. When you see a review like David K's review of the 900B, you sit back and wonder...and again, this is a guy who has never been a fan of LED and certainly not a fan of 4K. He distinctly said that in some dark scenes the Sony actually had better blacks than his ZT60. Pretty bold statement. He gave the 'performance' of the Sony a '9'.

So if that's the case, is there really such an utterly huge difference between the blacks on the Sony and those of OLED? Yes, I know OLED gets absolute black for all intents & purposes, but for practical purposes, from what I read in his review, I'm not so sure I'd use the word 'smokes'.

Now let's factor in freedom from IR, burn-in, 4K content that doesn't exist for LG, etc. and you have more selling points for the Sony. Yes, you could argue the uniformity is better on the OLED, but how much better? I see owners of OLED complaining about gray uniformity and I read in David's review that uniformity of the Sony was not an issue...not perfect, but not a major issue.

So again, 'smokes'? Not so sure.

All I'm saying is that when everything is factored in (as it should be with a purchase like this), it's not quite so clear cut as some may think...and this from someone who has the 77" OLED on his short list.
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TVs are collection of components and software. Panel solely does not make a TV good. OLEDs will eventually be the kings when all of the best TV manufacturers use them. Now it is just Koreans and prices are crazy
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Hmm, not so sure. When you see a review like David K's review of the 900B, you sit back and wonder...and again, this is a guy who has never been a fan of LED and certainly not a fan of 4K. He distinctly said that in some dark scenes the Sony actually had better blacks than his ZT60. Pretty bold statement. He gave the 'performance' of the Sony a '9'.

So if that's the case, is there really such an utterly huge difference between the blacks on the Sony and those of OLED? Yes, I know OLED gets absolute black for all intents & purposes, but for practical purposes, from what I read in his review, I'm not so sure I'd use the word 'smokes'.

Now let's factor in freedom from IR, burn-in, 4K content that doesn't exist for LG, etc. and you have more selling points for the Sony. Yes, you could argue the uniformity is better on the OLED, but how much better? I see owners of OLED complaining about gray uniformity and I read in David's review that uniformity of the Sony was not an issue...not perfect, but not a major issue.

So again, 'smokes'? Not so sure.

All I'm saying is that when everything is factored in (as it should be with a purchase like this), it's not quite so clear cut as some may think...and this from someone who has the 77" OLED on his short list.
IDK At this stage in the game I would agree I don't know if I would say smokes, in the end after it is more mature and more manufactures start to swim in that pool I would probably lean towards it would smoke everything else just at this current time no when more things are factored it such as size etc.

Really going to come down to what people want and what they are willing to live with as no display is perfect. Plus people are always going to lean more towards one side then the other as to what is best since it's subjective and it will vary per individual.

David K gave credit where credit is due with the 900B

What I find funny is that it seemed so many were expecting David's K's review to be against these sets because they were LCD and 4K. When it comes down to good PQ you cannot deny good PQ when it's staring you in the face. Regardless of his preference credit is given where credit is due.

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Unless you have had a set in your house and tried various settings and inputs, you can't say whether it has banding or not. Display models likely have backlight on the extreme "showroom" setting which would probably minimize banding also. I tend to notice banding more on light backgrounds with lower backlight.

I have particularly noticed a slight band dead center of the TV on 2 different 65A sets, one april 14 and other may 14, so I think it is almost an inherent structural feature. World Cup green field panning in particular shows it, almost nothing else does.
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IDK At this stage in the game I would agree I don't know if I would say smokes, in the end after it is more mature and more manufactures start to swim in that pool I would probably lean towards it would smoke everything else just at this current time no when more things are factored it such as size etc.

Really going to come down to what people want and what they are willing to live with as no display is perfect. Plus people are always going to lean more towards one side then the other as to what is best since it's subjective and it will vary per individual.

David K gave credit where credit is due with the 900B

What I find funny is that it seemed so many were expecting David's K's review to be against these sets because they were LCD and 4K. When it comes down to good PQ you cannot deny good PQ when it's staring you in the face. Regardless of his preference credit is given where credit is due.
That is just it. He was hating on 4k sets without ever reviewing one.

The 900a would have gotten praise, yet he criticized the idea of it from day 1. It really made no sense.
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Well we all know the OLED is going to smoke everything else, period and end of that discussion .
Please forgive the non-believers, they have never experienced OLED in their living room. That being said, the Sony is excellent and as of today there are no 4K OLEDS available to purchase. In 2 or 3 months we might know more even thou it might take CNET 2 years to actually review the 77' OLED.

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CNET Sony XBR-X900B series review...

http://www.cnet.com/products/sony-xbr-55x900b/
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CNET Sony XBR-X900B series review...

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I tried the calibration settings posted in the Cnet review. In my opinion the results give a picture close to my previous Panasonic plasma. I personally like the more natural look but the wife prefers the brighter Cinema 2 picture. Would be interested in other opinions after trying the Cnet settings.
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So again, 'smokes'? Not so sure.
All I'm saying is that when everything is factored in (as it should be with a purchase like this), it's not quite so clear cut as some may think...and this from someone who has the 77" OLED on his short list.
LOL, like you said, when you factor in everything, the LG OLED 55EA9800 was $1999 for some people with a certain store near them, so when the price can be factored in, that is an easy smokes .......

77 4K OLED is due out 3RD-4TH quarter......
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LOL, like you said, when you factor in everything, the LG OLED 55EA9800 was $1999 for some people with a certain store near them, so when the price can be factored in, that is an easy smokes .......

77 4K OLED is due out 3RD-4TH quarter......
for the low price of 1 arm and 1 leg.
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You are the only one who gets away with these comments. Do you know when the 77" is coming out?
I got $5 that says you can not buy the 77" OLED in the US from a US store by the end of the year. We would be lucky to see the 65" OLED at this point.
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I got $5 that says you can not buy the 77" OLED in the US from a US store by the end of the year. We would be lucky to see the 65" OLED at this point.
The ec9300 is suppose to be available by the end of this month. I believe the 4k oleds should show up atleast by September. It's still to early to tell we'll be able to kinda of guess on they're roll out of this set, as it's a 1080p replacement for the EA9800 which released in sept. Last year I believe.
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LOL, like you said, when you factor in everything, the LG OLED 55EA9800 was $1999 for some people with a certain store near them, so when the price can be factored in, that is an easy smokes .......

77 4K OLED is due out 3RD-4TH quarter......
Simply a matter of opinion.
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Have you guys noticed bad "spotlighting" maybe this is blooming, around the information displayed on the Netflix app in the upper left hand corner if you press the display button? Mine is really bad, seems to brighten / light up the whole upper left corner of the screen. Just wondering if this was normal. Obviously I don't have this turned on all the time, but when I want to verify the resolution Netflix is streaming at it is. What would cause this? I notice this on the overlays on the PS4 when playing Blu-ray discs as well.

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Do you really think the employees for Sony in Mexico being paid a few dollars per day care more about quality than the Koreans in Korea?
The best Tvs are not owned by any Country, thankfully the competition keeps them all on their toes.

Sorry to burst your bubble, the Best performing display currently being manufactured is the LG OLED being manufactured in Korea.

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Calibrations In Houston

Had my 900B calibrated 2 days ago. If you are in the Houston area check out hometheaterevolutions.com their calibrator is Richard Machemehl and did an excellent job. He was on time and calibrated 3 inputs.
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Had my 900B calibrated 2 days ago. If you are in the Houston area check out hometheaterevolutions.com their calibrator is Richard Machemehl and did an excellent job. He was on time and calibrated 3 inputs.
Care to share your settings?
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Had my 900B calibrated 2 days ago. If you are in the Houston area check out hometheaterevolutions.com their calibrator is Richard Machemehl and did an excellent job. He was on time and calibrated 3 inputs.
Yeah feel free to share those settings. We all share info among ourselves in this forum and the sharing of info should always be a 2 way street. Some guys share 99% of the settings, they might change one or two settings by a number up or down.
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firmware version?

Yes, would love to see what the "pro" calibration settings are!

Where can I find what the software/firmware version is? I've tried to dig through the menus, but can't find where that is (and to make sure I have the latest updates).
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These settings are for my Oppo 103 bd-player with an hdmi connection from the player straight to the tv. This was calibrated for 2D performance, no 3D
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Have you guys noticed bad "spotlighting" maybe this is blooming, around the information displayed on the Netflix app in the upper left hand corner if you press the display button? Mine is really bad, seems to brighten / light up the whole upper left corner of the screen. Just wondering if this was normal. Obviously I don't have this turned on all the time, but when I want to verify the resolution Netflix is streaming at it is. What would cause this? I notice this on the overlays on the PS4 when playing Blu-ray discs as well.

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Yes, I notice the spotlighting too when the display is ON, but is not too bad, it doesn't bother me, when it does I just turn it OFF.

Update on my Netflix 4K. I had submitted about Breaking Bad problem get thru 4k resolution online, and the next day all 4K on Netflix I was able to view it @2160, even @Peak hours, really happy camper now. Smurf 2 is so crystal clear. Love it!
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These settings are for my Oppo 103 bd-player with an hdmi connection from the player straight to the tv. This was calibrated for 2D performance, no 3D
Picture Mode - Custom
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Where's the rest of it?
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