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Being designated 950 wouldn't that mean Sony built it with better qualities than the 940? I recall the 950 being the flagship for 2014 and 2015.
Not the case, older processor among other things...

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Jesus ****ing christ, why are people coming into the 950B OWNERS forum to bash the 950B???? Are you that insecure in your recent purchase of a newer "better" set that you have to bash the "older tech" TV? Be happy with what you have and let others be happy with what they have. So what if they say the 950B has better PQ than your TV. So what if the 950B is "old tech" and doesn't have true HDR. I happen to agree that the 950B looks better than the 940C based on my personal experience closely comparing the two for hours with similar content. The 940C looks great and does a great job with HDR, but for someone like myself who probably would watch HDR content less than 5% of my viewing time, I see no value in it. Hell, not all HDR content is even that great. Some material looks great, others not so much. As someone else stated, it is in it's infancy still. For standard TV viewing and 1080 source viewing, the 950B was my winner over the Samsung JS9500 and the Sony 940C. But that is simply MY opinion, and in the end, that is all that matters to me.
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Great news. A Sony rep told me that we will be receiving an HDR update!!! His exact response was,

"Yes through future update you will experience the HDR future in your TV."
I sure hope this is correct, HDR support for my 85-inch 950B would be really awesome! That said, I have received mixed responses from Sony of whether the 950B will get an HDR update. If anyone at Sony is monitoring this forum (and I have to believe that they do), please guys get this done.
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Not the case, older processor among other things...

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Older DOESN'T necessarily mean worse. How do I know this? Simple. The 4k upconversion in the 950B is significantly better than in the 930d and 940c, the two sets I have compared. I suspect it will be better than the 940d, but I'll have to wait until I see it to be certain. I've talked with a number of Magnolia salesman, who would love to sell the new sets, tell me they also feel the 930d is inferior to the 950b upconversion.
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Older DOESN'T necessarily mean worse. How do I know this? Simple. The 4k upconversion in the 950B is significantly better than in the 930d and 940c, the two sets I have compared. I suspect it will be better than the 940d, but I'll have to wait until I see it to be certain. I've talked with a number of Magnolia salesman, who would love to sell the new sets, tell me they also feel the 930d is inferior to the 950b upconversion.
Weird, I surely world not base my decision on Mongolia salesmen. Also your giving a personal view just am I, epoch in reality mean very little. Reviews have shown the new X1 processor much improved things.

Either way I like the 950b but in my opinion it is not a 940c by no means.

Relax and enjoy your set, always going to be something better...

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Jesus ****ing christ, why are people coming into the 950B OWNERS forum to bash the 950B???? Are you that insecure in your recent purchase of a newer "better" set that you have to bash the "older tech" TV? Be happy with what you have and let others be happy with what they have. So what if they say the 950B has better PQ than your TV. So what if the 950B is "old tech" and doesn't have true HDR. I happen to agree that the 950B looks better than the 940C based on my personal experience closely comparing the two for hours with similar content. The 940C looks great and does a great job with HDR, but for someone like myself who probably would watch HDR content less than 5% of my viewing time, I see no value in it. Hell, not all HDR content is even that great. Some material looks great, others not so much. As someone else stated, it is in it's infancy still. For standard TV viewing and 1080 source viewing, the 950B was my winner over the Samsung JS9500 and the Sony 940C. But that is simply MY opinion, and in the end, that is all that matters to me.
Indeed.

My 65" 950b replaced a 60" Sharp Elite. We all know how excellent the Elite is. As good as the Elite is, I think the 950b is even better.

Then I got the HDR bug and purchased the 930D. As soon as I saw the upconvered 1080 picture, my heart sank as I realized it was significantly inferior to the 950B. Three days of trying to like and improve the PQ of the 930d failed to change my mind. HDR was such an insignificant feature compared to a good 1080 up conversion, that I had to return the 930d. Every time I turn on the 950b, I'm am so grateful for it's fabulous picture and for returning the very inferior 930D.
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Weird, I surely world not base my decision on Mongolia salesmen. Also your giving a personal view just am I, epoch in reality mean very little. Reviews have shown the new X1 processor much improved things.

Either way I like the 950b but in my opinion it is not a 940c by no means.

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First of all I never said I based my decision on what the Magnolia salesmen said. I based it upon my own observations. And you seem to be basing your conclusions upon what reviews are saying, and frankly, I just don't agree with many reviews.

I will always trust my own eyes over anything else. The new processor may very well be an improvement with certain features. But certainly not when it comes to 4K up conversion. Did your reviews distinguish between the various features with regard to the "improvement", or was it a general statement? If general, then you should throw the review out the window.
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First of all I never said I based my decision on what the Magnolia salesmen said. I based it upon my own observations. And you seem to be basing your conclusions upon what reviews are saying, and frankly, I just don't agree with many reviews.

I will always trust my own eyes over anything else. The new processor may very well be an improvement with certain features. But certainly not when it comes to 4K up conversion. Did your reviews distinguish between the various features with regard to the "improvement", or was it a general statement? If general, then you should throw the review out the window.
Ok you win, your set is the superior set.



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Older DOESN'T necessarily mean worse. How do I know this? Simple. The 4k upconversion in the 950B is significantly better than in the 930d and 940c, the two sets I have compared. I suspect it will be better than the 940d, but I'll have to wait until I see it to be certain. I've talked with a number of Magnolia salesman, who would love to sell the new sets, tell me they also feel the 930d is inferior to the 950b upconversion.
What about the 1080 upconversion on the 930c-Id be interested in hearing from owners on this. Also, compared to the 950b.
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What about the 1080 upconversion on the 930c-Id be interested in hearing from owners on this. Also, compared to the 950b.
I suggest you ask this question in the 930c owners section. Here you will only get that the 950b is superior to all sets ever made
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I suggest you ask this question in the 930c owners section. Here you will only get that the 950b is superior to all sets ever made
I don't think that's fair. I gave hard math numbers showing that the x950b is significantly better in one of the most important areas in picture quality and no one responded. Sure, the x930/x940c may be better at some things, but there are verifiable, computable criteria which show that the x950b is better in at least one important way, if not many others. Also, I'd be (sincerely) interested in seeing the basis for saying that the x940c has 128 zones.
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I pulled the trigger on a 65x950B today...Best Buy has some GREAT deals and I can't live with the 850c in my bedroom after just getting the 940c for the liv room. Slumming I tell you

So I'll be set for awhile. 940c for the main room and 950b up here in my room.

I've turned into a real Sony Snob lately. The richness of the 950b is what won me over. Like the 940c model; it just has that natural look and rich details that are just easy to look at.

No HDR more than likely but thats ok. There's nothing like it at these closeout prices and I can give the HDR up with the added black levels and rich color. And the BR TV its mostly at night while going to bed and to watch a DVR something...

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I don't think that's fair. I gave hard math numbers showing that the x950b is significantly better in one of the most important areas in picture quality and no one responded. Sure, the x930/x940c may be better at some things, but there are verifiable, computable criteria which show that the x950b is better in at least one important way, if not many others. Also, I'd be (sincerely) interested in seeing the basis for saying that the x940c has 128 zones.


The 128 was a revised number a few months after release after some new methods of counting zones was discovered. So yes, 128 is now the official count.

But, the amount of zones isn't what's important, its how well they are implemented. So your logic, the 78js9500 should be superior to the 940c because it has more zones ( 200 to 128), yet the 940c is said to have better uniformity and less blooming despite having significantly less zones and also has 2x-3x the native contrast ratio. So there's all sorts of different ways to spin numbers.


heres some measured HARD numbers by calibrator Chad B.


950B:

" The contrast measured 3882:1 with local dimming off, 23,000:1 on Low, and surprisingly 15,263:1 on Normal. "


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"The native panel contrast ratio measured 4232:1 (57.9 fL white, .0137 fL black) without the aid of the local dimming. With local dimming on high or medium, the contrast ratio was so good it was unmeasurable. With the local dimming on low, it was 86363:1 (57.69 fL, .00067fL)."
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I suggest you ask this question in the 930c owners section. Here you will only get that the 950b is superior to all sets ever made
OK. Let's just exaggerate and be a bit silly, shall we?

Let's go through this just one more time.
I had the 65" 930d physically next to the 950B for 3 days. I spend many hours watching all kinds of 1080 source material. The 4K up conversion was significantly better on the 950B. The 930D simply had a softer image. If anything, I was biased toward the 930D. I wanted to like the set. I wanted HDR. I'll even give you that other than the 1080 up conversion and FALD vs Slim Backlight Drive, the 940d was a good or better than the 950b in every other way. I didn't even care about the relatively minor "edge lit" artifacts. And the 940D blacks were fine.

But the vast majority of viewing for all of us is still 1080 material. And the 950B was significantly better than the 930D (and a 940C 75" I saw at a store) with regard to up conversion. I really don't care about X1, Reality Pro, etc. I don't care what reviewers say (which are very often biased, incorrect, etc.). THE 950B PRODUCES A SUPERIOR 1080 UP CONVERTED IMAGE.
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I suggest you ask this question in the 930c owners section. Here you will only get that the 950b is superior to all sets ever made
Well,
I asked the question here as the comparison was being made of the 950b to the 930d on 1080 upconversion.
So I was interested in the same comparison with the 930c.
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Any owners of the 950b able to get the Masters Amen Corner in 4k working? My friend has this set but can't find the app in the Sony apps.

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Any owners of the 950b able to get the Masters Amen Corner in 4k working? My friend has this set but can't find the app in the Sony apps.
Well it looks like it's only for C or D revisions of Sony 4K sets. http://community.sony.com/t5/Televis...rs/td-p/563574
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OK. Let's just exaggerate and be a bit silly, shall we?

Let's go through this just one more time.
I had the 65" 930d physically next to the 950B for 3 days. I spend many hours watching all kinds of 1080 source material. The 4K up conversion was significantly better on the 950B. The 930D simply had a softer image. If anything, I was biased toward the 930D. I wanted to like the set. I wanted HDR. I'll even give you that other than the 1080 up conversion and FALD vs Slim Backlight Drive, the 940d was a good or better than the 950b in every other way. I didn't even care about the relatively minor "edge lit" artifacts. And the 940D blacks were fine.

But the vast majority of viewing for all of us is still 1080 material. And the 950B was significantly better than the 940D (and a 940C 75" I saw at a store) with regard to up conversion. I really don't care about X1, Reality Pro, etc. I don't care what reviewers say (which are very often biased, incorrect, etc.). THE 950B PRODUCES A SUPERIOR 1080 UP CONVERTED IMAGE.
As someone who currently owns both the x950b, and x930d, I'd have to disagree with you almost completely. While I *might* give a very slight nod to the x950b giving us a better upconvert of say cable or directv (in my case) picture. It is by the smallest of margins. One I think has to do tmwith the fact that the x930d is a sharper more detailed image, this showing more defects/artifacts easier.

The x950b is a softer image overall, and I believe that's why it may look better with older content to our eyes. Even then I wouldn't say the x950b is "superior" in any way other than it being FALD. Put it to you this way, if the x930d used FALD, it would crush the 950b in every way, and this is coming from a guy who loves the x950b. It just looks a bit dated when it to my 930d. Oh how I wish they would of made this set FALD, or at least a 950d!

Don't take this post as bashing this set at all guys, I truly love my 950, but I'm just being honest and speaking from my own observations. I even recommended this set to a few people based on what hey watch most. If HDR isn't important to you, by all means this set is still a fantastic set.
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As someone who currently owns both the x950b, and x930d, I'd have to disagree with you almost completely. While I *might* give a very slight nod to the x950b giving us a better upconvert of say cable or directv (in my case) picture. It is by the smallest of margins. One I think has to do tmwith the fact that the x930d is a sharper more detailed image, this showing more defects/artifacts easier.

The x950b is a softer image overall, and I believe that's why it may look better with older content to our eyes. Even then I wouldn't say the x950b is "superior" in any way other than it being FALD. Put it to you this way, if the x930d used FALD, it would crush the 950b in every way, and this is coming from a guy who loves the x950b. It just looks a bit dated when it to my 930d. Oh how I wish they would of made this set FALD, or at least a 950d!

Don't take this post as bashing this set at all guys, I truly love my 950, but I'm just being honest and speaking from my own observations. I even recommended this set to a few people based on what hey watch most. If HDR isn't important to you, by all means this set is still a fantastic set.
You see, what you did in this post is provide your opinion of both sets based on your personal observations and came across intelligent and welcoming to reasonable discussion about the comparisons you made. You didn't come on here acting like a dick as a few others have. Your comparison of the two is a very nice breath of fresh air over the past couple of pages.

Thank you for your comments and helping to provide a better picture for those who may be comparing the two sets and are trying to research for themselves.
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I'm thinking of picking up a 950B because of the current prices, and yesterday I did some comparing of the 950B to the non FALD Sony C and D series sets at Best Buy(they did not have any other Sony FALD sets). Yes, I would agree the 950B had a very slightly "softer" image than the newer series, but the 950B is far superior in the dynamism of the picture than the non FALD sets. They had the same demo loop running on the 950B and another Sony set, I think the 930D.

Now, at some points of the demo loop, one might at first glance think the 930D was better. But it wss when it came to some of the "city scape" shots, the 950B trounced the others. Where I saw the difference was when they showed a wide shot of a big city street and buildings. There was a traffic light in the shot, which was red at the time. Now, on the 950B, the red light really glowed brilliantly like it does in real life, while on the 930D the light was around one quarter as bright. Also, at the end of the demo loop, white credits scroll against a black background. On the 950B, the credits displayed brilliantly, while on the 930D, they were muted and much dimmer. I attribute this superiority of the 950B to FALD.

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Found this link from another thread on the 2016 sets and according to it the 950B has a 10 bit panel and no FRC, therefore, no 8+2. Is this site normally accurate because that would indicate HDR could be added if HDMI 2.0a were upgraded and whatever internal hardware is needed to decode including going DV which I hear works with 1.4. Can't change the panel but everything else is possible. Including HDMI 2.1 if needed.

I personally don't care about HDR considering its in its infancy and the two formats are battling it out as did VHS/BETA and Blue-Ray/HD but once the dust settles and content becomes more readily available it would be a nice option to have assuming this site is accurate about 10 bit.

You'd think there would be aftermarket options for updating boards to provide the functionality.
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ok. Let's just exaggerate and be a bit silly, shall we?

let's go through this just one more time.
I had the 65" 930d physically next to the 950b for 3 days. I spend many hours watching all kinds of 1080 source material. The 4k up conversion was significantly better on the 950b. The 930d simply had a softer image. If anything, i was biased toward the 930d. I wanted to like the set. I wanted hdr. I'll even give you that other than the 1080 up conversion and fald vs slim backlight drive, the 940d was a good or better than the 950b in every other way. I didn't even care about the relatively minor "edge lit" artifacts. And the 940d blacks were fine.

But the vast majority of viewing for all of us is still 1080 material. And the 950b was significantly better than the 940d (and a 940c 75" i saw at a store) with regard to up conversion. I really don't care about x1, reality pro, etc. I don't care what reviewers say (which are very often biased, incorrect, etc.). The 950b produces a superior 1080 up converted image.
jeez bud you spend too much time watching tv! And sorry but even though the 950b is a nice set its no 940c. I own both. Havent seen the 940d yet but id only guess itll kill the 950b
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I'm thinking of picking up a 950B because of the current prices, and yesterday I did some comparing of the 950B to the non FALD Sony C and D series sets at Best Buy(they did not have any other Sony FALD sets). Yes, I would agree the 950B had a very slightly "softer" image than the newer series, but the 950B is far superior in the dynamism of the picture than the non FALD sets. They had the same demo loop running on the 950B and another Sony set, I think the 930D.

Now, at some points of the demo loop, one might at first glance think the 930D was better. But it wss when it came to some of the "city scape" shots, the 950B trounced the others. Where I saw the difference was when they showed a wide shot of a big city street and buildings. There was a traffic light in the shot, which was red at the time. Now, on the 950B, the red light really glowed brilliantly like it does in real life, while on the 930D the light was around one quarter as bright. Also, at the end of the demo loop, white credits scroll against a black background. On the 950B, the credits displayed brilliantly, while on the 930D, they were muted and much dimmer. I attribute this superiority of the 950B to FALD.
No edge lit tv can compare to FALD sets with the right content. If you really like what you see with the x950b, and don't NEED HDR, then by all means... Jump on the great deals that can be had on these tv's right now! They are still great. I love both my x930d, and x950b.
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The wifi on these TVs suck. The upstairs gets 18 Mbps but does play 4K Netflix. The new one plays 22 Mbps but crashes. I'm calling Sony tomorrow to see if I need a reset to resolve. Regardless I need to add access points. I now have 300 Mbps plan and my iPhone 6 is registering near 200 Mbps.
Yes. It's amazing in such a high end tv they skimp on the networking. The difference (to CONSUMERS) for a single unit of the worst b/g adapter and the best 2x2 AC adapter is 30 bucks....

Unfortunately I hard wired mine and on a 45mb line I got ~18mb via wifi and ~18mb via hard wire lol.

I have since upgraded to 300mb myself and was eager to retest. Same EXACT result. Leads me to believe the hardware is only 10/100 and draft n at best. Serious garbage on a tv who's smart features all require web access.

So to whomever was asking - get a Roku or Apple TV. Wish I had/will be in the future.

Shame that basically all top tier tvs are smart these days.
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Emails. Chain is below.

Dear William,

Thank you for contacting Sony Video and Sound Support.

We hope you are doing well.

We suggest you that in future update for your TV you may experience this HDR feature.

Please feel free to get back to us for further assistance if you face any difficulty.

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Are you saying that I will see HDR on my x950b in a future update?
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We?re glad to hear back from you.

Yes through future update you will experience the HDR future in your TV.

Hope this helps. Thank you for choosing Sony and have a good day ahead.

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wishful thinking but its not happening. The 950b is incapable of hdr. Its nothing that can be achieved through an update. If you want hdr id recommend the 940c for it is a far superior set
Care to elaborate? Considering it has more than enough nits, the hdmi only require a firmware update, and inferior Samsung tvs from the same year have already received it...

Not saying it will, but saying it's impossible is misguided at best.

I was pessimistic due to sonys cs but I'm now leaning towards it coming. Last I heard they were checking compatability in the lab in preparation for a firmware release.
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I pulled the trigger on a 65x950B today...Best Buy has some GREAT deals and I can't live with the 850c in my bedroom after just getting the 940c for the liv room. Slumming I tell you

So I'll be set for awhile. 940c for the main room and 950b up here in my room.

I've turned into a real Sony Snob lately. The richness of the 950b is what won me over. Like the 940c model; it just has that natural look and rich details that are just easy to look at.

No HDR more than likely but thats ok. There's nothing like it at these closeout prices and I can give the HDR up with the added black levels and rich color. And the BR TV its mostly at night while going to bed and to watch a DVR something...

Excited...
Baller! Course when I bought my 950b they were still retailing for like 8k lol. Hence only one sony tv here.

I intended to become a sort of "loyalist" until I saw how bad the cs was and how bad they cut a lot of corners. They quickly abandon hardware, cheap out on some things, piss poor warranties (to be fair they're not the exception), and the nosepads on the 3D glasses.... Seriously?! Anyone with a 3D printer because I'm NOT spending another 200 dollars due to sonys design flaws and lazy parts department!

In other news, I do love the tv but I'll be buying another tv next tax season and moving this one to my room (due to the awesome build quality allowing a bug to actually get between the panel and bezel and die) and won't be going with Sony.

Will spend much more time researching than I did this round and likely go lg or Samsung. Perhaps 4K oled which I'm sure by then prices will start looking good.

Moreso than the HDR the biggest disappointment for me is missing a real OS by one year. Having the unsupported unupdated garbage of an OS on this tv is such a handicap it constantly feels dated.

Emby? Slingtv? Psvue (it's a sony tv ffs)? Twitch? Hell, Facebook? I can go on but I digress.

The irony is that not only is most of this off topic relative to discussion as of late, but I actually love the tv. Perhaps that's why I'm so disappointed >.<
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As someone who currently owns both the x950b, and x930d, I'd have to disagree with you almost completely. While I *might* give a very slight nod to the x950b giving us a better upconvert of say cable or directv (in my case) picture. It is by the smallest of margins. One I think has to do tmwith the fact that the x930d is a sharper more detailed image, this showing more defects/artifacts easier.

The x950b is a softer image overall, and I believe that's why it may look better with older content to our eyes. Even then I wouldn't say the x950b is "superior" in any way other than it being FALD. Put it to you this way, if the x930d used FALD, it would crush the 950b in every way, and this is coming from a guy who loves the x950b. It just looks a bit dated when it to my 930d. Oh how I wish they would of made this set FALD, or at least a 950d!

Don't take this post as bashing this set at all guys, I truly love my 950, but I'm just being honest and speaking from my own observations. I even recommended this set to a few people based on what hey watch most. If HDR isn't important to you, by all means this set is still a fantastic set.
Ultimately what you just did is explain why nearly every FALD tv at any level is superior/more desireable than top edge lits.

Saying "if it was FALD" is like saying my crt would be the tits if it used oleds lol.
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Found this link from another thread on the 2016 sets and according to it the 950B has a 10 bit panel and no FRC, therefore, no 8+2. Is this site normally accurate because that would indicate HDR could be added if HDMI 2.0a were upgraded and whatever internal hardware is needed to decode including going DV which I hear works with 1.4. Can't change the panel but everything else is possible. Including HDMI 2.1 if needed.

I personally don't care about HDR considering its in its infancy and the two formats are battling it out as did VHS/BETA and Blue-Ray/HD but once the dust settles and content becomes more readily available it would be a nice option to have assuming this site is accurate about 10 bit.

You'd think there would be aftermarket options for updating boards to provide the functionality.
Shouldn't need aftermarket. Samsung issues the board upgrade kits themselves when/where needed. No reason Sony can't do the same - they just don't.
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jeez bud you spend too much time watching tv! And sorry but even though the 950b is a nice set its no 940c. I own both. Havent seen the 940d yet but id only guess itll kill the 950b
Odd that it didn't get the flagship 950x designation. Wonder why.
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