I watched bit of the world cup soccer today to double check to see if the auto mode changed to sports. It did. The sports mode was designed to try and compensate for those terrible video conditions.
Sports mode seems awfully close to vivid on my 5 TV's but not quite as garish and useful on occasion and also common to almost every TV on the planet these days in fact my CRT Trinitrons and FD Trinitrons had sports and vivid modes .
I watched bit of the world cup soccer today to double check to see if the auto mode changed to sports. It did. That broadcast was video,That broadcast was video, not film. Shade in the field foreground (green grass), full sunlight in the field background (green grass), and full sunlight in the seats with people with light colored clothing.
Thats not remarkable in itself it's cool and all though but hardly equates to the dynamic changes I thought you were referring to in your original argument in fact the TV can derive that information from the program info (PSIP) or an Embedded ip program guide app or Chroma , motion and other picture data information and call up a change to sport or another mode .
The other scene modes did not look good including Cinema-1 (AKA the calibrated mode with most options set to OFF).
Try upping the brightness ,back light and contrast in
one or more of the cinema modes most of the published calibrations of Sonys have included this . My suggestion would be max contrast and backlight and 50-55 brightness to start
in Cinema mode it makes a remarkable improvement without altering the CMS values .
A +2 gamma setting might not hurt either contrary to what some would say the sets are not
always adjusted correctly in the pre sets .
In all or some of the 2013 Sony sets .Auto Scene select defaults to Energy Star settings/standard picture mode/neut color temp advanced picture settings remain available in auto mode as well . I believe the Sony video engines are all new for 2014 I haven't played with one much yet
Now if you calibrate every scene mode to be the same, why have different presets or options?
tube twister wrote ,
I only change change basic and advanced user picture adjustments ( usually off) and gamma if needed (in the allowed modes ) to preference or in some cases HD.709 in each mode . I have set some slight differences but less than the out of box presets but left the Vivid and Sports Modes mostly unaltered .
ofc I'm not a trained calibrator so a discussion of multi mode (serv menu ) CMS calibration is best left to the calibration experts IMO I do not know what the standard practice is
although I believe it is maybe one or two modes for day night in some cases .
In my case I just make a small change of brightness in Cinema mode (after I set it up right ) if going to dark room or ambient back light viewing on my Sony.
OTOH my Sammie PDP is on auto pilot and doesn't need any help in part due to it being an emissive display having good CMS and superior black levels . It did require some user and CMS adjustments initially though .
also it is fine in reasonably controlled daylight dark room viewing is not mandatory at all and with its excellent contrast
it can sometimes seem brighter
than some LCD's now and then as long as you are not watching hockey and the ABL kicks in .
OTOH Service menu chroma calibration ( Color management if provided ) should theoretically be the same in all modes to provide accurate color whether the TV in use retains that globally or otherwise they may have to be set in one or more modes.
After all, the different preset scene modes that have different options activated are really just "gimmicks"!
That seems to be a popular opinion at AVS and other places these days . Nothing wrong with a good video engine Proessors(s) and firmware with th fluff turned off .
As far as scene mode settings are concerned, calibration in one scene mode does not transfer to any other scene mode. You have to do a manual entry of settings in each scene mode, or do a new calibration
Yes that's exactly what I said earlier in regard to user settings .
Calibration settings of the scene mode that was calibrated will only transfer to another HDMI input
Never said it would or wouldn't makes sense though .
Auto changing a picture mode (Scene selection) does not equate to dynamic program picture
improvement on the fly as the Sony marketing spec's would like you to believe by their vague description of Auto mode function I think all the TV makers (and a lot of other )marketing copywriters go to the same school in that their mantra is likely :
We must try not to raise the ire of the FTC or any other regulators or the tort lawyers
but we can otherwise try get away with as much as we can by being vague and borderline but not legally misleading ! ☺ ☺
My point being the whole time is :
The argument that you gave and I would take exception with and thus far that you have not been able to support which is how specifically does your TV dynamically improve picture quality from the PSIP data or some other data as you posted and stated earlier I've yet to see any verifiable evidence of that . In all fairness I've made an effort to support your position (original argument ) but can not find any evidence to validate your claims .
Unless ofc you were talking specifically about only simply picture mode scene select switching ?
then perhaps I misunderstood your intent
I've tried to be fair for the most part and only asked for verifiable support of the argument when I couldn't find any but haven't seen it .
ATSC metadata is just that and appears only to contain program metadata and program genre no on the fly dynamic picture CMS information so that does not bolster the original argument. It *may unintentionally support* scene select /mode switching on your TV via genre info and intentionally support VCR/DVR timing and channel /program info display generally also but nothing much beyond that for the consumer from what I can see .
Sony may have used/use Rovi for guide or DMR or both again it seems to date back to Beta VCR with updates ofc .
You probably know HDMI HDCP and DRM serve that function with HDMI devices .
I Believe at least the 2013 and the current model Sony's program guide and maybe some metadata comes from PSN as to where PSN aggregates that from is anybody's guess .
PSN (and by implication )most modern Sony ip enabled TV's and other devices including my PS3 use PSN + XBMC browser code that supports meta data .
So in the end you have been able to observe your TV switching scene modes automatically but you really don't know how it does it but are guessing thats fine if you present it that way lacking verification (that's my argument ) it could just as well be using Chroma ,motion,frame rate or some other components of the video signal.
OTOH it's obviously using HDCP and EDID on some of the devices such as a BD player or PC thats not unusual. Again meta data *may unintentionally support* scene select /mode switching on your TV via genre info it's clever of Sony actually if thats what they are doing and if you like that sort of thing and your picture settings or pre sets and it works reliably .
I'll add again I've owned 3 Sonys including the current one they have always had very good pictures once set up and been very dependable for me . As for LCD sets for my personal viewing or to recommend to a friend they would remain my first choice so far .
OTOH Auto switching would be one of the first things I would disable however If my TV switched modes on it's own other than EDID switching I would be pissed!
The other comments regarding picture calibration IMO are way off base and fly in face of long established and verifiable science .