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Guess what just arrived !



The photo may be not clear enough It's the XBR65X850C !

Let me know if you have questions and things I need to look at for you !

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Best Buy should should able to order all the new models that are on their site already, for pickup or delivery in a few days time -- 50" W800C, 75" W850C, 43/49 X830C, and 55/65 X850C.

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Can some please help me understand the marketing direction in regards to the pricing for the 900c?

I was going to purchases this but now I'm reading speculations of a $5,500 price tag. I just don't see how this is possible being that the 930c is $4499.99

I know that the price has NOT been confirmed for the 900c, but does anyone have any inside info that they could share in regards to more accurate/ballpark numbers?

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Internal browser in Android TV working flash player?
Movies from playing usb all formats? fullhd 3d 1920x1600/2160?
How feels picture quality on hd and 4k broadcasts from netflix or else app.
Much better, if you write little review for us
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Internal browser in Android TV working flash player?
Movies from playing usb all formats? fullhd 3d 1920x1600/2160?
How feels picture quality on hd and 4k broadcasts from netflix or else app.
Much better, if you write little review for us
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I will do !

I need to play with it a little before that !

I'll test the browser and Flash asap + USB playback and report back.

I cannot test Netflix yet, the app is not there, they say it will be there in May

No worry for the English, I'm a french Canadian so...

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Can some please help me understand the marketing direction in regards to the pricing for the 900c?

I was going to purchases this but now I'm reading speculations of a $5,500 price tag. I just don't see how this is possible being that the 930c is $4499.99

I know that the price has NOT been confirmed for the 900c, but does anyone have any inside info that they could share in regards to more accurate/ballpark numbers?

Thanks!
XBR-55X900C $2,499
XBR-65X900C $3,999
XBR-75X910C $5,499

The 65X900C is $3,999. The 75X910C is $5,499.
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The photo may be not clear enough It's the XBR65X850C !

Let me know if you have questions and things I need to look at for you !
Nice!!! Definitely post an overall review. Confirm 850c has a VA panel maybe? Thoughts on viewing angles and picture quality at night in dark environment (black level - ending credits test).
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Nice!!! Definitely post an overall review. Confirm 850c has a VA panel maybe? Thoughts on viewing angles and picture quality at night in dark environment (black level - ending credits test).
Any idea how I can confirm for the pannel ?

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The photo may be not clear enough It's the XBR65X850C !

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I'd like to know display lag, black levels, any light bleeding. More pictures if you can with different lighting situations. I'd like to see how the screen handles different types of glare.
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Hi everyone !

Quick feedback regarding your questions :

- 4K playback through USB is good, I had to reboot once though, but since then it is fine
- No browser yet, so cannot test flash or anything related to it. Chrome is not in the store and there is no Sony browser yet either (no Netflix, not a lot of apps right now, they say May, so just got the TV too early)
- I did a credit test as it is beginning to be darker here and it looked pretty good. Better than the 850B for sure where I had a lot of issues with edge lightning.
- Viewing angle looks pretty good to me, maybe not as good as the 850B, but it is only after a couple of hours of testing.
- I'm not sure about the upscaling engine yet... My first reflex is that it's less perfect than it was on the 850B, but that's only an impression. I have not played a lot with the settings yet either.
- Black levels looks pretty good to me, but I will be apple to say more once it's really totally dark here.
- I feel the 4K playback through the video app is better than it was on the 850B... Again, maybe it's just me but color rendering looks really really good to me. Because of the panel change maybe ?

I did not test 3D yet, will report when I do.
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Is it out anywhere yet?
NM I was told it was new model but when I looked @ box and tag said 850B stupid rep
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Can anybody point me to a test 3D Full HD MKV, a trailer would be great. I don't any...

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Thanks !

I just learned that they change tech for 3D compared to me previous active set... It was IR based, look like this is RF?

I'll need new glasses :|

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I just learned that they change tech for 3D compared to me previous active set... It was IR based, look like this is RF?

I'll need new glasses :|
please let me know what model no. of 3d glasses you end up getting to work with this set,i'm gonna need 4 pair and I'm not sure which ones will work
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The photo may be not clear enough It's the XBR65X850C !

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Is this 850C matte screen like 850B last year or glass screen?
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The photo may be not clear enough It's the XBR65X850C !

Let me know if you have questions and things I need to look at for you !

feel free to start a new official owners club of this tv since you are the first owner.
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Is this 850C matte screen like 850B last year or glass screen?
It looks matte like last year as far as I can tell.

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please let me know what model no. of 3d glasses you end up getting to work with this set,i'm gonna need 4 pair and I'm not sure which ones will work
I ordered two pairs (to test) of the TDG-BT500A (http://store.sony.com/3d-glasses-act...TV-Accessories), the manual states they are the compatible ones.

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The photo may be not clear enough It's the XBR65X850C !

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Wow. How the hell did you get it so fast. Thats crazy. Congrats. Can you post some screen shot? Maybe pitch black so we can see if there is clouding and some 4K shots. Thanks.
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Wow. How the hell did you get it so fast. Thats crazy. Congrats. Can you post some screen shot? Maybe pitch black so we can see if there is clouding and some 4K shots. Thanks.
My biggest question is what you think of the overall implementation of the direct lit technology compared to Sony's edge lit technology. Does it eliminate screen uniformity issues like banding, clouding and flashlighting? I don't think we've ever seen frame dimming on anything but edge lit in the past from Sony. This combination seems like a huge change for Sony.
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My biggest question is what you think of the overall implementation of the direct lit technology compared to Sony's edge lit technology. Does it eliminate screen uniformity issues like banding, clouding and flashlighting? I don't think we've ever seen frame dimming on anything but edge lit in the past from Sony. This combination seems like a huge change for Sony.
After a couples of hours with it, my reflex is that there is way less clouding than on last year model, no comparison possible.

I feel I have the four corners a little bit darker though, but it's a very small area. I could notice it on a fully white screen.

So I'd say it's really a step in the right direction.

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I will do as soon as I have a chance !
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I will do as soon as I have a chance !
If I remember correctly, on the x850b, Advanced Contrast Enhancer must be set to at least LOW to activate frame dimming.
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Niceeeeeeeeeee... Congratulations on your new sony. Hope you enjoy it. I have a question about the stand. Do you prefer it better than the X850B legs??? I would figure the legs would give you more options to a degree. Also ty very much for keeping us updated on your progress with it. Can't wait to hear more & May 22nd can't come fast enough for me!!!!!! Urggggggg the dreaded wait continues. Trying to hold out on the X900C to see what it has vs the X850C but lmao my hungry for a new tv & Sony's 4k is @ a all-time high now!!!! Smh....
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Niceeeeeeeeeee... Congratulations on your new sony. Hope you enjoy it. I have a question about the stand. Do you prefer it better than the X850B legs??? I would figure the legs would give you more options to a degree. Also ty very much for keeping us updated on your progress with it. Can't wait to hear more & May 22nd can't come fast enough for me!!!!!! Urggggggg the dreaded wait continues. Trying to hold out on the X900C to see what it has vs the X850C but lmao my hungry for a new tv & Sony's 4k is @ a all-time high now!!!! Smh....
I have a feeling the set is a bit less steady with the new stand compared to the legs. But I like the look though...

I had the feeling the new set was lighter, then I just looked at the specs say and they the new set is 20 pounds lighter ! I'm surprised by this, this is a lot isn't it ?

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I have a feeling the set is a bit less steady with the new stand compared to the legs. But I like the look though...

I had the feeling the new set was lighter, then I just looked at the specs say and they the new set is 20 pounds lighter ! I'm surprised by this, this is a lot isn't it ?

Each year TV sets are getting more and more anorexic and that is a good thing
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As everyone now knows, Sony's intent was to keep the 65" 850c artificially high in price until the last of the 2014 stock was gone, and then to drop it down to its real selling price, which is $2,599 USD. I would imagine that at least a few people who bought the 850b are a little bit warm under the collar to know that for just a few hundred dollars more they could have gotten a better TV. Still, that price opens up options that are worth looking into.

I'll be brazen enough to say on this board that if price is a determining factor the Samsung JS8500 is hands-down a better TV than the 850c. And it should be. If you scratch for every bug in the hen house you'll be able to find the 8500 for sale at "just" $500 more than the 850c, but its normal rebate cost is about $900 higher than the Sony. Still, the Sony may have a big advantage so far as purchasing strategy is concerned.

I know, you know, and Mother Hubbard's poor dog knows that refined and affordable OLED is not that far into the future, quite probably no more than three or four years. Spending monster dollars now for technology that is going to be woefully outdated in a few short years should make no sense to a Home Theater enthusiast. In its own right, I have no doubt that the 850c is going to give a solid performance, even with its shortcomings. At its price point this is a relatively easy TV to sell off in three or four years without taking a financial blood bath. Try doing that with the 930c or 940c. I don't doubt that by 2019 LED will be pretty much out the door, and everybody and the family parakeet will be making OLED displays. A top-quality OLED should easily retail for no more than $4,000 for a 65" screen.

All we have to do in the meantime is pretend that HDR doesn't exist. Not a problem, I'm sure, for most people in this forum. Certainly no one here is drooling at the prospect of seeing 'Star Wars Episode VII' in 4k Blu-ray HDR in Summer 2016. For sure, I know I'm not.
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Niceeeeeeeeeee... Congratulations on your new sony. Hope you enjoy it. I have a question about the stand. Do you prefer it better than the X850B legs??? I would figure the legs would give you more options to a degree. Also ty very much for keeping us updated on your progress with it. Can't wait to hear more & May 22nd can't come fast enough for me!!!!!! Urggggggg the dreaded wait continues. Trying to hold out on the X900C to see what it has vs the X850C but lmao my hungry for a new tv & Sony's 4k is @ a all-time high now!!!! Smh....
I have a feeling the set is a bit less steady with the new stand compared to the legs. But I like the look though...

I had the feeling the new set was lighter, then I just looked at the specs say and they the new set is 20 pounds lighter ! I'm surprised by this, this is a lot isn't it ?

Ty for the reply. Wow 20 pounds lighter & yeah it is alot considering. Sony did trim the fat around the edges it would seem gezzzzz. Makes me wonder now how light the X900C will be now. Yeah I was thinking & wondering the same thing about the stand. It's crazy they would change it up. Considering the X900C will have the legs with it & not the stand of the X850C. Yeah I hope the stand holds up for the X850C as I wouldn't be wall mounting mine. Glad you like the look though. Is the stand some type of chrome plastic on the X850C or is it a chrome stand period???
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I ordered two pairs (to test) of the TDG-BT500A (http://store.sony.com/3d-glasses-act...TV-Accessories), the manual states they are the compatible ones.
Active 3D glasses so it is definitely a VA panel as expected (you could probably use the much cheaper Samsung glasses on this as well, SSG-5100GB).

X850B was an IPS model, how on earth was that considered a matte screen?

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