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Sharp Ue30 60 or 70 inch edge lit or Quantum Dot?

I'm wondering if the new sharp is edge lit with fram diming or fald screen or maybe Quantum Dot setup?
I know a lot of people can't wait for new sumsang tv's not a samsung fan. I wanted a f8500 plasma and maybe that would have change my mind on samsung. sony is going to be out of my price range this year.
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I'm wondering if the new sharp is edge lit with fram diming or fald screen or maybe Quantum Dot setup?
I know a lot of people can't wait for new sumsang tv's not a samsung fan. I wanted a f8500 plasma and maybe that would have change my mind on samsung. sony is going to be out of my price range this year.
Sharp uses Spectros Color on that model and all 4K sets.
It is a new blend of improved phosphors that boost red and cyan to
allow a much wider color gamut. Quattron is not part of the mix.
The newly announced 80" 4K+ will use both Spectros and Quattron.
That will allow the widest color and brightness in the industry.
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I'm wondering if the new sharp is edge lit with fram diming or fald screen or maybe Quantum Dot setup?
I know a lot of people can't wait for new sumsang tv's not a samsung fan. I wanted a f8500 plasma and maybe that would have change my mind on samsung. sony is going to be out of my price range this year.
Find a detailed list of the UE30’s features below:

4K Ultra HD: 4X the pixel resolution of Full HD
Revelation™ Upscaler
4K Ultra HD Streaming (HEVC/h.265; VP9)
AquoMotion™ 480

AquoDimming™ (Sharp is calling Aquo Dimming Technology which analyzes and adjusts the picture contrast of each of it’s more than 8 million pixels on the fly.)

SmartCentral™ 4.0
Android TV platform
4K Ultra HD Specs (HDMI 2.0; HDCP 2.2)
Modern Design – ultra slim bezel, sleek stand
Dual Stand Placement Options (70” diag./80” diag.)
Wallpaper Mode
Quad-core processor
4 HDMI, 3 USB, Wi-Fi

MSRP 60” Class LC60UE30: $2,000
MSRP 70” Class LC70UE30: $2,800
MSRP 80” Class LC80UE30: $5,400
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Find a detailed list of the UE30’s features below:

4K Ultra HD: 4X the pixel resolution of Full HD
Revelation™ Upscaler
4K Ultra HD Streaming (HEVC/h.265; VP9)
AquoMotion™ 480

AquoDimming™ (Sharp is calling Aquo Dimming Technology which analyzes and adjusts the picture contrast of each of it’s more than 8 million pixels on the fly.)

SmartCentral™ 4.0
Android TV platform
4K Ultra HD Specs (HDMI 2.0; HDCP 2.2)
Modern Design – ultra slim bezel, sleek stand
Dual Stand Placement Options (70” diag./80” diag.)
Wallpaper Mode
Quad-core processor
4 HDMI, 3 USB, Wi-Fi

MSRP 60” Class LC60UE30: $2,000
MSRP 70” Class LC70UE30: $2,800
MSRP 80” Class LC80UE30: $5,400
I never even considered a Sharp TV before, but this sounds like a great series. I'll eagerly await the hands-on reviews! I also really like the fact that it is a clean looking design with no frills and hardly any bezel.
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Find a detailed list of the UE30’s features below:

4K Ultra HD: 4X the pixel resolution of Full HD
Revelation™ Upscaler
4K Ultra HD Streaming (HEVC/h.265; VP9)
AquoMotion™ 480

AquoDimming™ (Sharp is calling Aquo Dimming Technology which analyzes and adjusts the picture contrast of each of it’s more than 8 million pixels on the fly.)

SmartCentral™ 4.0
Android TV platform
4K Ultra HD Specs (HDMI 2.0; HDCP 2.2)
Modern Design – ultra slim bezel, sleek stand
Dual Stand Placement Options (70” diag./80” diag.)
Wallpaper Mode
Quad-core processor
4 HDMI, 3 USB, Wi-Fi

MSRP 60” Class LC60UE30: $2,000
MSRP 70” Class LC70UE30: $2,800
MSRP 80” Class LC80UE30: $5,400
The price is certainly right, but we'll need to understand what this 'Aquodimming' marketing-babble really means.

Hopefully it is at least frame dimming (which would allow for the best scene-specific blacks to be delivered).

Ideally it is edge-lit pseudo-local dimming (which should at least allow for letterbox bars to be blackened close to OFF and should also deliver some improvement in scene-specific black levels).

And hope fully it is not no real backlight LED dimming at all (as I believe was the case with the 2014 Sharp Q+ TVs).

The Sharp VA panels are capable of delivering a verb high native contrast level in the range of 6500:1, so only a modest amount of LED backlight dimming should be needed to deliver good black levels from these panels...
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Sharp uses Spectros Color on that model and all 4K sets.
It is a new blend of improved phosphors that boost red and cyan to
allow a much wider color gamut. Quattron is not part of the mix.
The newly announced 80" 4K+ will use both Spectros and Quattron.
That will allow the widest color and brightness in the industry.
Understood that almost NONE of their 4k sets received the Spectros Color. (including all of the numerous UB and UE models). I understood that except for the 8k (simulated) set only the two UH models (70in and 80 in) received this feature. I hope I am wrong???
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I might be wrong but I found a couple websites that list two top tiers are fald screens. That would make the diming better than fram diming. But I might be wrong. When I started looking for new tv I was sure I was getting vizio p or m line. Than I wanted Sony w630b I had only owned Sony 10 years. But sharp's 2014 line looked pretty good and now this year its looking pretty amazing.
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Understood that almost NONE of their 4k sets received the Spectros Color. (including all of the numerous UB and UE models). I understood that except for the 8k (simulated) set only the two UH models (70in and 80 in) received this feature. I hope I am wrong???
Their just-released 4K televisions (this passed November), the LC-60UD27U and LC-70UD27U, both have it as well.
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Their just-released 4K televisions (this passed November), the LC-60UD27U and LC-70UD27U, both have it as well.
I think all the 4K sets have Spectros Color, but not Quattron.
Both 3D and the yellow subpixel were dropped in favor of a
white LED that has improved blue-green and red performance.
This puts them in league with other RGB sets, including Quantum Dots.
Only the 4K+ seems to have the Quattron restored as well.
They claim that the combination sends it ahead of all competition.
Meantime, though, the Q+ UQ17U is a solid performer in brightness,
contrast, motion control and detail. I still prefer its global dimming
to FALD, due to the artifacts of the latter. I'll have to see the new
4K+ in action before deciding if it is truly wide-gamut...
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[QUOTE=johnfull;30610706]I think all the 4K sets have Spectros Color, but not Quattron.

Do not recall if it was digitaltrends or somewhere else but pretty sure they claimed that the following 7 Sharp 2015 4k tv's DID NOT have Spectros Color. These were in the ub30 series (43 inch, 50 inch, 55 inch and 65 inch) and in the ue30 series. (60inch, 70 inch and 80 inch) If true it might be a disservice to claim otherwise.
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I think all the 4K sets have Spectros Color, but not Quattron.

Do not recall if it was digitaltrends or somewhere else but pretty sure they claimed that the following 7 Sharp 2015 4k tv's DID NOT have Spectros Color. These were in the ub30 series (43 inch, 50 inch, 55 inch and 65 inch) and in the ue30 series. (60inch, 70 inch and 80 inch) If true it might be a disservice to claim otherwise.
Thanks for the clarification. Good info is hard to come by.
They dropped the Quattron and the 3D from all the 4K line, so far
as I know -- and I extrapolated from their Spectros advertising that
it would be the compensation for the other losses, including slower
refresh rate and lower brightness and less contrast. Confusing!
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I spent a lot of time looking at this tv. 2nd best only to the 4k quattron in my opinion. Best led tv (non quattron) at the show IMO.
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Did sharp stop using the yellow pixel this year or only on the uh line? When should the new tv's hit bestbuy and local video shops?
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The price is certainly right, but we'll need to understand what this 'Aquodimming' marketing-babble really means.

Hopefully it is at least frame dimming (which would allow for the best scene-specific blacks to be delivered).

Ideally it is edge-lit pseudo-local dimming (which should at least allow for letterbox bars to be blackened close to OFF and should also deliver some improvement in scene-specific black levels).

And hope fully it is not no real backlight LED dimming at all (as I believe was the case with the 2014 Sharp Q+ TVs).

The Sharp VA panels are capable of delivering a verb high native contrast level in the range of 6500:1, so only a modest amount of LED backlight dimming should be needed to deliver good black levels from these panels...
fafrd, I know you're a FALD guy, would this set be in the running even if it's not FALD? Also having trouble parsing that 4th sentence of yours.
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Did sharp stop using the yellow pixel this year or only on the uh line? When should the new tv's hit bestbuy and local video shops?
Sharp is only using the yellow pixel on their beyond 4K display.

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