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There is an equalizer in the audio menu that you can try but I doubt there is anything you can do that is going to make the internal speakers sound significantly better.
The majority of displays these days have small, crappy back-facing. They are not good to start with and wall mounting would just muffle them further (if you have an articulating wall mount you can try moving it further away from the wall).
The bigger sets (M60+) have significantly better sound, but even those are still not great. Did your old sony have front-facing speakers?
I think most people would get a soundbar in your situation but that obviously involves hooking up a component (keep in mind that many soundbars can also be wall mounted above or below the TV which would not cause any clutter, if that is your concern)!
Thank you for the reply. Any brand recommendations on a sound bar?
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Does the M75-C1 have a 2.0 or a 3.0 USB port?

The specs on LG's web site doesn't indicate which. So my guess would be 2.0 or they would be advertising it. Am I correct?


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I'm pretty sure it's a USB 2.0 port on the M's (USB 3.0 stick support seems to be hit and miss - some work, some don't).
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Thank you for the reply. Any brand recommendations on a sound bar?
No sorry, I've got a 5.1 system myself so not so familiar with what soundbars are good...
Lot's of review on the net though and you can have a look at/ask in the soundbar subforum: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/195-soundbars/
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I'm pretty sure it's a USB 2.0 port on the M's (USB 3.0 stick support seems to be hit and miss - some work, some don't).
That's my thinking also, thanks

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I am using the Vizio SB4051-C0 and am pleased with it. I had a Denon 890 with Cambridge Soundworks speakers (circa 1994) with 2 12" subs. The Vizio SB does a good job in place of the 5.1 system that I had. You might wait for the newer Vizio SB's that are coming out soon. The newer 5.1's Sub goes down to 30 Hz while the current one only goes to 50 hz. YMMV

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Question to anyone here: Did they ever improve the motion blur on these with firmware updates or anything? Just wondering, as I can get one cheap for a monitor (Although I would prefer getting a 2016 p)
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Question to anyone here: Did they ever improve the motion blur on these with firmware updates or anything? Just wondering, as I can get one cheap for a monitor (Although I would prefer getting a 2016 p)
Yes, there was an improvement in motion handling in one of the early updates (I think it was 1.2.23UHD). I would say that motion blur on the M series is pretty decent for an LCD.
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Question to anyone here: Did they ever improve the motion blur on these with firmware updates or anything? Just wondering, as I can get one cheap for a monitor (Although I would prefer getting a 2016 p)
My take is that motion handling got better with the new firmware versions, but that 60 Hz panel models lost the control for Motion Blur, but retained the Judder control. I have no issues with the performance of my M55-C2
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Would you guys say the motion blur is good enough for competitive fps on mouse and keyboard?

Rtings had it at 15.1 ms. About what was the end result?

Rtings has the 2016 p series at 10.2 ms
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Does the M75-C1 have a 2.0 or a 3.0 USB port?

The specs on LG's web site doesn't indicate which. So my guess would be 2.0 or they would be advertising it. Am I correct?
Fairly sure it's 2.0, but why would that matter?

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@VBB - I would go the other way. I am fairly certain the USB will be 3.0. RTings says 3.0 in comments, 4k.com says 3.0, and the port is Blue on mine - which typically indicates 3.0.
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Would you guys say the motion blur is good enough for competitive fps on mouse and keyboard?

Rtings had it at 15.1 ms. About what was the end result?

Rtings has the 2016 p series at 10.2 ms
That pixel lag number doesn't tell the whole story. The way the Vizio Pixels pulse enables to have much less motion blur than all of the Sony TVs do. The Vizio is excellent at 1080p @ 120 FPS for gaming with clear action enabled. You need the 60" or larger for true 1080p @ 120 FPS though.
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@VBB - I would go the other way. I am fairly certain the USB will be 3.0. RTings says 3.0 in comments, 4k.com says 3.0, and the port is Blue on mine - which typically indicates 3.0.
On the 2015 M? Even better then Still begs the question why it matters...
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On the 2015 M? Even better then Still begs the question why it matters...
That one I cannot answer. You would think it would be something they would point out on their specs if it was indeed 3.0.
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That pixel lag number doesn't tell the whole story. The way the Vizio Pixels pulse enables to have much less motion blur than all of the Sony TVs do. The Vizio is excellent at 1080p @ 120 FPS for gaming with clear action enabled. You need the 60" or larger for true 1080p @ 120 FPS though.
I'm not really all that concerned about 120hz. I prefer 4k. I only get around 30+ fps on new games anyway (But at maxed settings, I have a nice pc).

I would be going from a dell p2715q, not a Sony tv. It has like 8 ms refresh rate (I think...) but I've read mixed things about the input lag. From what I can tell the input lag is lower on the vizio.

The better contrast and deeper blacks would help me out alot.
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Fairly sure it's 2.0, but why would that matter?

I run a lot of 4K demo material through the USB 3.0 on my set and I don't think it would be the same through a 2.0.

I wanted my neighbor see how Pioneer Demo material would look on her M75

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@VBB - I would go the other way. I am fairly certain the USB will be 3.0. RTings says 3.0 in comments, 4k.com says 3.0, and the port is Blue on mine - which typically indicates 3.0.

Then maybe it is 3.0. I guess I will have to head to my neighbor's home and see

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Then maybe it is 3.0. I guess I will have to head to my neighbor's home and see
I've tried 4K videos via USB without any issue (don't remember if it was a USB 3.0 stick or not though). I wouldn't use the USB port for regular viewing, though. The media player interface leaves a lot to be desired!
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I've tried 4K videos via USB without any issue (don't remember if it was a USB 3.0 stick or not though). I wouldn't use the USB port for regular viewing, though. The media player interface leaves a lot to be desired!
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Just for running LG, Samsung, Pioneer 4K Demo material
Jim, it shouldn't matter if the port is 2.0 or 3.0. That's really only important when you're transferring a bunch of files from a drive to a computer or vice versa. Playback from USB should be fast enough with 2.0, regardless of the material.
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Jim, it shouldn't matter if the port is 2.0 or 3.0. That's really only important when you're transferring a bunch of files from a drive to a computer or vice versa. Playback from USB should be fast enough with 2.0, regardless of the material.

I didn't know that. That was very informative and helpful, thanks.

Then, I'm good to go. Once again, thanks

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I don't think it is your "fault" any more than it is mine or the tens of thousands of people who bought and continue to buy non HDR TVs. There is no public information campaign I know about to inform people of the virtues of HDR and the pitfalls of non HDR TVs.

I too feel completely bamboozled about this. I'm also beyond surprised that more people aren't up in arms on this board. To me, the lack of reaction means one or more of the following:

1. People have LOTS of disposable income, so they just don't care.
2. People who bought a 2015 M series are ignoring the fact they just took it on the chin.
3. Maybe, just maybe, some of the posters on this board are shill reviewers who hyped up the M series to the detriment of those of us who fell for their rhetoric.

I mean, seriously, almost 14000 glowing reviews and compliments about the M series, influencing many of us to buy a TV. Then suddenly oops, sucks for you if you bought a 2015 M series. You should have known to buy a TV with HDR and WCG, dummy.

But hey, just plunk down another $1800-3500 and we promise you'll have a great TV this time. (wink wink)
I was told up and down that the M55 I bought was a good purchase and not to worry about HDR. I am fine with it though(lack of HDR) because I only paid $400 after a price match and a $75 promotional credit from Amazon.
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Hey all. I picked up the VIZIO M50-C1 with the close out deal going on at Walmart. I've been out of the game as my last purchase was back in 2010/11 but i couldnt pass up this deal and wanted to get back into the 4K game. TV is gorgeous and I'm coming from a 2010 46" Sony XBR 240Hz 1080p. I left the HDMI 5 port alone as I believe this for 4K equipment only so I used ports 2-3-4 for Direct TV-Bluray-Chromecast. My only complaint so far is the sound. This is a bedroom tv which I wall mounted so i'm not going to hook up any components to it. It sounds very very muffled. I know not to expect much from tv speakers but these are horrid and my wife is wanting to go back to our sony. Any tips on making the sound better? EQ settings? TIA.
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-Turn surround sound off
-Use the flat or center for more emphasis on the dialog, (experiment with the presets or adjust manually)

Modern flat screens just can't live up audio wise to what the older sets could do, and thats true with most brands.
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Too piggy back on Gorillabot's reply, here is what I did:

-Turn surround sound off
-Use the flat or center for more emphasis on the dialog, (experiment with the presets or adjust manually)

Modern flat screens just can't live up audio wise to what the older sets could do, and thats true with most brands.
Thanks ya'll. I just went and bought VIZIO 29 2ch Sound Bar SB2920C6 at Walmart for $80. Like i said its our bedroom tv and this will work perfectly. I didnt wall mount yet but the TV recognized the bar right away which made for easy set up. Hooked it up with the coax-digital cable into my direct tv genie box. Easy. And it sounds really good. My wife is happy but keeps harping about the Sony lol. Yes good tv but this one even a "vizio" is night and day better.
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I was told up and down that the M55 I bought was a good purchase and not to worry about HDR. I am fine with it though(lack of HDR) because I only paid $400 after a price match and a $75 promotional credit from Amazon.
Would you be fine with it if you paid full price or close to full price, as I suspect many people did?
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Would you be fine with it if you paid full price or close to full price, as I suspect many people did?
I'm fine with mine, except for the fact the firmware hasn't updated yet. It's a very good product as I wait for 8k to mature. BTW, you can play HDR on these units if you really want to; just missing the full spectrum.
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Would you be fine with it if you paid full price or close to full price, as I suspect many people did?
I would have done a lot of research if I was going to spend full price on a TV and it would have meant I was comfortable with my purchase. The only reason I even bought a 4KTV was because of the insane deal I got.
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I don't think it is your "fault" any more than it is mine or the tens of thousands of people who bought and continue to buy non HDR TVs. There is no public information campaign I know about to inform people of the virtues of HDR and the pitfalls of non HDR TVs.

I too feel completely bamboozled about this. I'm also beyond surprised that more people aren't up in arms on this board. To me, the lack of reaction means one or more of the following:

1. People have LOTS of disposable income, so they just don't care.
2. People who bought a 2015 M series are ignoring the fact they just took it on the chin.
3. Maybe, just maybe, some of the posters on this board are shill reviewers who hyped up the M series to the detriment of those of us who fell for their rhetoric.

I mean, seriously, almost 14000 glowing reviews and compliments about the M series, influencing many of us to buy a TV. Then suddenly oops, sucks for you if you bought a 2015 M series. You should have known to buy a TV with HDR and WCG, dummy.

But hey, just plunk down another $1800-3500 and we promise you'll have a great TV this time. (wink wink)
Little late to the party here, been busy with the audio side of things lately.

Getting bent out of shape about technology advancing is wasted energy, it's part of the risk involved with buying new gear. There's always something better next year. Something that's more refined, or has more advancements over the previous generation.

Now I know your coming from a plasma, and LCD's are kind of a step back for you, but for anyone who has had an older LCD, the M series is a good TV, and will be a good TV for a long time. I think it has a good reputation because of the features and picture quality at it's price point. We have a number of different LCD's in the house, direct lit, edge lit, and the M60 with FALD, it's hands down the best picture in the house. Yeah, it's not the long hauler I thought it was going to be, but I got a good TV at a good price. I think a lot of people on here would agree with that statement.
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Little late to the party here, been busy with the audio side of things lately.

Getting bent out of shape about technology advancing is wasted energy, it's part of the risk involved with buying new gear. There's always something better next year. Something that's more refined, or has more advancements over the previous generation.

Now I know your coming from a plasma, and LCD's are kind of a step back for you, but for anyone who has had an older LCD, the M series is a good TV, and will be a good TV for a long time. I think it has a good reputation because of the features and picture quality at it's price point. We have a number of different LCD's in the house, direct lit, edge lit, and the M60 with FALD, it's hands down the best picture in the house. Yeah, it's not the long hauler I thought it was going to be, but I got a good TV at a good price. I think a lot of people on here would agree with that statement.
You'd need a really high end plasma for that. I have 3 plasmas and the m43-c1 I have is rather nice. In some ways beat them.

Now let's be honest, the plasmas still had some gray in their blacks, you needed a really high end plasma for 'infinite black'. That right there makes these really nice unless you got one of the best plasmas out there.
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Too piggy back on Gorillabot's reply, here is what I did:

-Turn surround sound off
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Modern flat screens just can't live up audio wise to what the older sets could do, and thats true with most brands.
I dunno why some people even try sound on tvs, they were never all that good, you need a sound system.
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