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post #16381 of 16412 Old 12-24-2018, 09:19 PM
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Anyone got any realistic idea what an M80-C3 can go for these days? Msg me, I'm not out to annoy the mods. Mine's going up here and elsewhere this weekend.

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My m75-c1 has an issue where it fairly frequently flashes black and the channel/input info pops up at the top of the screen.

I have absolutely no idea whatsoever is causing the issue. I tried different hdmi cables and different video sources. I tried messing with all of the settings nothing seems to fix it.

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Add me to the list of users who gets the flicker/display reset intermittently for [email protected] It's great most of the time, but the loss of display at random intervals is frustrating.

I tried the backlight and contrast dialing back to about 33. It seemed to on a whole lengthen the periods between the flicker, but that could just be confirmation bias. There were times the flicker happened seconds after dialing back the contrast. I started at around 40 and pushed it back a step every time I got a flicker. I gave up at 33 when the display was just getting too dark to bother.

mboojigga - I know you've been asked many times over on this thread for specs since you seem to be a lucky one without flicker, but can I ask again for them? Maybe system specs, with OS, Graphics driver version, and the display timing settings? Things are fantastic at 120Hz, and I'd love to try anything to get rid of that display flicker/reset.
From the NVIDIA Control Panel I set the refresh rate to [email protected] (60Hz would cause flickers occasionally) [email protected] never posed a problem.
I also set Vertical Sync to ADAPTIVE in the Global Settings in the 3D Menu. <--- step is important
I recommend shutting down/rebooting after changing the settings.

If the above settings don't change anything try:
Reseating your HDMI Cable in Port 5 and shutting down the TV down for a few hours so it can cool down.

I'm guessing that whatever processor they used that could push [email protected] [email protected] on a single port is maxed out the limit in these models. Short-term gain(Vizio), long-term loss(Consumers)
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So my M60-C3 is fading out but I have a SquareTrade warranty (like many others here). They are offering a D60-F3 as a replacement. I balked and they stated they would update with a different set, well darn they updated with the exact same model.

I wrote an email of why I didn’t want to accept the D60 but they have not responded or offered another option. So, my question is, how long do they usually take for the review before offering up another replacement?

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My m60-c3 is still going strong in my bedroom setup over here. No complaints
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My m60-c3 is still going strong in my bedroom setup over here. No complaints
Never an issue with my M80-C3 either.
For the bedroom we have a 55" LG OLED B7 and it too has been rock solid.

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M70-C3 still going strong. Kind of wish it would start to die so I could convince wife we need a new 80+....
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Guess this makes me an unlucky one... M60-C3 lasted a little more than 2 years (right after the combination of Costco and credit card warranties expired), before a green vertical line showed up on the right side of the screen (turned it off one day, noticed that it seemed to almost do so in two parts, divided by where the green line now lives).

Seems to only be a single pixel wide, but goes top to bottom, and haven't found a way to try and fix it (open to suggestions).
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Guess this makes me an unlucky one... M60-C3 lasted a little more than 2 years (right after the combination of Costco and credit card warranties expired), before a green vertical line showed up on the right side of the screen (turned it off one day, noticed that it seemed to almost do so in two parts, divided by where the green line now lives).

Seems to only be a single pixel wide, but goes top to bottom, and haven't found a way to try and fix it (open to suggestions).
Sorry to hear. Please let us know when you decide what to do.

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If you truly are marginally outside your warranty I'd still make the call to Costco Concierge and plead your case.
My Dad taught me the answer is always NO unless you ask.......

PS - I presume you did a complete factory reset including a power down discharge (wait about 5 minutes after unplugging EVERYTHING, connect power only and reset to factory, repeat unplug/power down cycle).

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Guess this makes me an unlucky one... M60-C3 lasted a little more than 2 years (right after the combination of Costco and credit card warranties expired), before a green vertical line showed up on the right side of the screen (turned it off one day, noticed that it seemed to almost do so in two parts, divided by where the green line now lives).

Seems to only be a single pixel wide, but goes top to bottom, and haven't found a way to try and fix it (open to suggestions).
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What source are you using that generates the line? Cable, Blu-Ray, streaming only with the Vizio...? Possibly try different HDMI ports? A long time ago I had a vertical line on mine (M70-C3) a little right of center, but only with certain movies played on my 4K player. After several firmware updates, both for the TV and the player, I no longer have the problem. I don't know what actually fixed it, but it might be worth reporting the problem to Vizio and any other source that's playing through the TV.
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- Yes, full power cycle/re-set
- All inputs, including the built in programs (which I've since stopped using in favour of an Nvidia Shield)
- Costco warranty covered the first year (in lieu of the manufacturer), and my credit card extended it to two. Rules may be a little different here in the great white north.

It's definitely a panel issue, just unsure if I'm wanting to try to disassemble to check all connectors/capacitors/etc. Alternatively, may toss this on Craigslist for a low price and replace with something larger with HDR.
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How much out of warranty are you and did you call Costco? Once you open it that option is off the table. You'll never know unless you call, they may have had a run of sets with this problem. Stranger things have happened, especially with Vizio sets. You have nothing to lose but a little bit of time and some minor rejection should they say tough luck.

I did a couple of searches and it may be a bad T-Con board (I am NOT a TV repair person so value my advise by the amount you are paying for it). Call the people at SHopJimmy if Costco turns you down.

https://www.shopjimmy.com/vizio/m60-c3

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- Yes, full power cycle/re-set
- All inputs, including the built in programs (which I've since stopped using in favour of an Nvidia Shield)
- Costco warranty covered the first year (in lieu of the manufacturer), and my credit card extended it to two. Rules may be a little different here in the great white north.

It's definitely a panel issue, just unsure if I'm wanting to try to disassemble to check all connectors/capacitors/etc. Alternatively, may toss this on Craigslist for a low price and replace with something larger with HDR.

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Hey happy agnostic, may I ask what HDMI cord you are using and at what length the cord is? I'm having issues with my 120hz on my m60 c3 , it works but it blacks out once in a while
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So, my 3 M50-C1s are still going strong. I recently got an i1pro 2 and recalibrated two of the three sets targeting 120cd/m2, using a correction matrix for my i1D3. I used dICtCp with HCFR for the correction formula.

Set 1:
SDR REC.709 75%/75%, gamma 2.2 power law, ICtCp Settings (UPDATED 2/10/2018)
FIRMWARE: 1.5.16-UHD
Rec.709 Color space / Power Law Gamma 2.2, ICtCp, 120 nit target
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
10% window

Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 26
Brightness: 49
Contrast: 50
Color: 61
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 11

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active LED Zones: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: Auto
Color Space: YCbCr
Gamma: 2.2

---Color Calibration---

Color Tuner:

Hue:
Red: -1
Green: 15
Blue: 4
Cyan: -1
Magenta: 2
Yellow: -2

Saturation
Red: -1
Green: -10
Blue: 0
Cyan: 3
Magenta: 5
Yellow: -4

Brightness
Red: 0
Green: -1
Blue: -3
Cyan: -2
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 1

Offset
Red: 0
Green: 0
Blue: 2

Gain
Red: -12
Green: 0
Blue: -11

11 Point White Balance: Listed as R,G,B

5% 5, 4, 5

10% 12, 8, 14

20% 14,15,11

30% 14,15,12

40% 15,14,13

50% 8,9,8

60% 3,2,4

70% 6,5,1

80% -1,1,1

90% 1,2,2

100% -7,0,2

Set 2
SDR REC.709 75%/75%, gamma 2.2 power law, ICtCp Settings(UPDATED 2/10/2019)
FIRMWARE: 1.5.16-UHD
Rec.709 Color space / Power Law Gamma 2.2, ICtCp, 120 nit target
FALD ON
Gamma 2.2
10% window

Picture Mode:Calibrated Dark
Auto Brightness Control: Off
Backlight: 25
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 61
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 11

--More Picture---
Color temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active LED Zones: On
Reduce Judder: 0
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Game Low Latency: Off
Film Mode: Auto
Color Space: YCbCr
Gamma: 2.2


---Color Calibration---

Color Tuner:

Hue:
Red: 1
Green: 17
Blue: 0
Cyan: 0
Magenta: 3
Yellow: -8

Saturation
Red: 3
Green: -15
Blue: 0
Cyan: 7
Magenta: -5
Yellow: -3

Brightness
Red: -1
Green: -1
Blue: 0
Cyan: -3
Magenta: 0
Yellow: 0

Offset
Red: -1
Green: 0
Blue: -1

Gain
Red: -8
Green: 0
Blue: -12

11 Point White Balance: Listed as R,G,B

5% 4,2,5

10% 7,3,10

20% 11,11,9

30% 12,11,10

40% 13,10,11

50% 7,6,6

60% 1,-1,3

70% 1,1,2

80% -1,-1,2

90% -2,0,7

100% -7,0,7
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My M50-C1 just started doing this:

No matter which input I use and it seems to perhaps be temperature related because when the TV is first turned on it doesn't have any issues.. But after about 5-10~ minutes it starts doing this.. I wonder if the internal fan (if it had one?) is broken. Seems like it's related to the output decoder module or something if I had to guess.

Anybody seen this on a 2015 Vizio M series?

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Anybody seen this on a 2015 Vizio M series?
Yes, but I can't be much help to you. It took me 2 exchanges to get my sorta working M (black out issue and colored noise at 4K 60/1080 120). First one developed a red line down the screen after a few days, but the second one did this out of the box and I immediately returned it...

The new 2019 75" PQX looks really nice, but I have so little trust in Vizios build quality after my 2015 M's.
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So my 70M had some backlighting issues and I sold it, what's out there in a similar size and price range to replace it? don't think I want to get another Vizo after this one taking a dump so soon? Is there a thread on here somewhere, I have been searching?
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So my 70M had some backlighting issues and I sold it, what's out there in a similar size and price range to replace it? don't think I want to get another Vizo after this one taking a dump so soon? Is there a thread on here somewhere, I have been searching?
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My 80" M is without issues, but if I had to replace it today I would look seriously at a LG OLED set. We have their 55" in the bedroom and the PQ is amazing. Not cheap, but I understand their pricing has come down.

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I would like to disconnect mine from the internet. Is it true that the only way possible is just factory reset?

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I would like to disconnect mine from the internet. Is it true that the only way possible is just factory reset?

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No you can go in your router settings and block the devices from connecting. If it is only connected by Ethernet, unplug it.
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No you can go in your router settings and block the devices from connecting. If it is only connected by Ethernet, unplug it.
Good idea. Thanks. I'll block it from router.

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Unplug OR change your wireless passcode!!!! I doubt anymore useful updates will be coming and if they do you can see them on the forums and reconnect for awhile

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Last Edited: 2-10-2016 - Switched to using 2.2 for gamma. This is purely a matter of preference. 2.2 is said to be accurate. However, a value of 2.2 on your TV might not mean that it is using exactly 2.2 for the gamma curve. Only a meter could determine that. Updated my color setting because I found some situations where color clipping occurred("The Biggest Loser" was the culprit in this case). Updated my stance on Clear Action for game use only. Also added comments about 120 HZ TVs that end in "-C1" and how they might flicker with Clear Action turned on. I used the WOW disc for the RGB Brightness and Contrast settings this time. It has a much more precise test pattern than the DVE disc I was using before.

Got the 1.3.15-UHD update today for my 50" P-series, 55" 2015 M-series, and the mighty 80" 2015 M-series. Here are the things that it fixes and the things that still are broken.

What has been fixed or changed.

1. The M55 no longer has the option for Reduce Motion Blur. The P50 and M80 still have it and it works the same as it did before.

2. It appears that the Reduce Judder setting is the same up to about a value of 2 or 3. However, from 3-10 the motion interpolation seems to be less aggressive. I still use a value of 1 or 2 but the higher values aren't as unnatural as they were before.

3. Clear Action no longer produces the flickering for the M80. It still dims the screen excessively but it doesn't have the flicker that it did before.

4. The Yellow Brightness setting no longer produces the split screen dimming that it did before.

5. Reduce Judder and Reduce Motion Blur are grayed out on the M80 for HDMI Input 5. This was because I had HDMI 5 set to input 1080p @ 120 FPS. These settings will work with any other frame rate on any input.

What hasn't been fixed or hasn't changed.

1. The Red, Green, and Blue Brightness settings in the individual color menu still give a posterizing effect if you adjust them away from their default settings for certain material(I notice this the most with the latest Transformers Blu-ray). Sorry I can't post examples of this because of copy right claims. This appears as excessive noise and color clipping.

2. The reduce signal noise setting still produces an undesirable motion blur effect in certain situations. I know I had said I couldn't see a downside to this setting before and I couldn't until I got the latest Avengers Blu-ray disc. In the very dark scenes the reduce signal noise setting will produce motion blurring with that Avengers Disc. Ultimately I was using the Reduce Signal Noise setting to eliminate the noise that the Individual Brightness settings were causing. Once I returned those settings to their default value I no longer needed to use the reduce signal noise setting.

3. The credits for one specific Netflix program(American Horror Story Season 3 episode 4 titled "Fearful Pranks Ensue") produce a pumping effect when Active LED Zones is turned on. I also discovered that the Planet of the Apes movie produces this same effect while the translation text is on screen. Just turn off "Active LED Zones" if this is the case.

Here are my final settings with the M80 and the 1.3.15-UHD firmware. These are the recommended settings that I think everyone should use. For the most part these settings apply to all 2015 Vizio M-series TVs.

Picture Mode = Based off of the "Calibrated" default profile
Backlight = 87 (This is a matter of preference. Try a value from 23 to 87 depending on your needs and likes).
Brightness = 50 for Auto or YCbCr. 28 for RGB (Please don't touch this setting for Auto or YCbCr. You are only messing things up if you adjust it with those Color Spaces).
Contrast = 50 for Auto or YCbCr. 63 for RGB (Please don't touch this setting for Auto or YCbCr. You are only messing things up if you adjust it with those Color Spaces).
Color = 53 (Start with this value and adjust accordingly) 02-01-2016 UPDATE - I changed this from 56 to 53 because I found some scenarios where 56 caused mild color clipping and 53 did not. I am retesting all of my settings with even more scenarios in order to determine full proof settings in all situations. This takes time though so please be patient.
Tint = 0(Don't adjust this setting)
Sharpness = 33(This is simply a matter of preference. 20 is the default value. Just start there if you aren't sure where to start).

More Picture Settings
Color Temperature = Computer* (Use Normal* if you want accuracy. Use computer if you want whiter whites instead of yellow whites which is actually more accurate)
Black Detail = Low (I don't notice any difference between low, Medium, and High so I use Low)
Active LED Zones = ON
Reduce Judder = 1 or 2 (However, if you see intermittent issues with the ticker tape on ESPN or News Networks then turn this setting to Zero with a setting of 10 for Reduce Motion Blur)
Reduce Motion Blur = 10 (A setting of 10 improves the intermittent issues with the ticker tape on ESPN or News Networks.

Clear Action = Off for all regular TV content and movies. For 120 Hz TVs(All 2014 P-series and 60"+ 2015 M-series TVs that end in "-C3") clear action doesn't produce a noticeable flicker but it will reduce the brightness of the TV significantly. M-series that end in "-C1" have been reported to produce the flickering seen in the 55" and smaller TVs. For games the reduced brightness may be worth the reduction in pixel lag that all LCD based TVs inherently have. Clear Action can significantly improve the motion handling for games(Not regular TV) at the expense of some screen brightness. 60 Hz TVs(All 55" and smaller 2015 M-series TVs) will still have some flickering even if you set the TV to RGB Color Space and adjust the contrast and brightness to reduce but not eliminate the flickering. Try Clear Action for games with 55" and smaller M-series TVs but turn it off if the flickering bothers you. It will probably work well for you with games on all 120 Hz Vizio TVs that end in "-C3".

Reduce noise = both settings Off (This is different than what I had recommended before because I finally found situations where it produces an undesirable effect).
Game Low Latency = Off for TV. "On" for Games. I have found the input lag on HDMI 1-4 with GLL enabled to be unacceptable for my Black OPs III uses. RTINGS.com has stated that is about 45.2 ms instead of the 18.5 ms that you get on HDMI 5 with GLL turned on. For this reason I recommend "ALL" gaming be done on HDMI input 5 with GLL turned on. It may not bother you for other games but it really bothers me. If you turn GLL off it will have an input lag of 84 ms for HDMI 5 and 103.6 ms for HDMI 1-4. That will be unacceptable to virtually everyone if they compare it to HDMI 5 with GLL turned on.
Film Mode = Auto
Color Space = Auto
Gamma = 2.2 (Use 1.8 if you want the least crushed whites and blacks or 2.4 if you want to crush blacks and whites)

Color Calibration/Color Tuner
Only adjust the overall "Offset" values for Red, Green, and Blue. Don't do the 11 point white Balance adjustments. It has issues that other reviewers have noted.

I use the settings below but your specific TV may be different for these settings.

"Computer" Color Settings with color set at 53 and Gamma = 2.2

Red = +5
Green = 0
Blue = -5


"Normal" Color Settings with color set at 59 and Gamma = 2.2

Red = 0
Green = 0
Blue = 4
Have you updated these settings? They looked good. Have had the TV upstairs in Sports room and haven’t used it in a while.

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Max USB drive size for Vizio M70-c3?

Can anyone with a M70-c3 tell me what the max USB drive size they've successfully used it? I have a 128gb thumb drive but it's not working with the TV, not sure if the drive is bad or the TV is just limited to 64GB?

Also does the TV support USB 3.0 thumb drives or does it need to be USB 2.0?
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My wireless connection in the TV is basically dead. It 'sees' my networks but just will not connect. I've been having drops for a while when watching Hulu, Amazon, etc. Decided to just say forget it and use my XBOX instead for all streaming now. I always though the smart features on this set were pretty good but I'm ok moving to the XBOX as it has better menu and stays connected.

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M60-C3 failure after 3 years 6 months. Gray patches middle center right and middle bottom right. Unwatchable.

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M60-C3 failure after 3 years 6 months. Gray patches middle center right and middle bottom right. Unwatchable.
Do you plan to have it repaired, or will you buy a replacement set?

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M60 Failure

This TV is now unwatchable. Shopping for a replacement. When I searched on Vizio reliability I saw this:

Consumer Reports estimates that 20 percent of Hisense and Vizio TVs will experience a problem within the first five years. ... In addition to Vizio and Hisense, Element, RCA, and Westinghouse also have subpar reliability ratings. But no models from those brands had high enough Overall Scores to be recommended.

I don't think I'll get another Vizio, although the M60 had a great picture while it lasted and the new PX series looks awesome. Not interested in a TV that only lasts 4 years.

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