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Thanks, Don't know what happened this time. I'm going to start over with a fresh download from Samsung site unzip and try again.
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I notice a lot of banding on my 85 JU7100. Is this the nature of the TV, or is it a calibration or adjustment issue?

This is while viewing 4k UHD discs with an OPPO 203.
The only time I had any noticeable banding was with my Roku Ultra set by default at 4:2:2 color. When I changed it to 4:2:0 it went away.

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Put the unzipped folder on your flashstick.
Just checked the Korean site - they have 1510.3. Are you sure you have the right file? It should be T-HKMAKUC.zip. The one for a bunch of other TVs looks almost right, but won't load and won't work.

Just as aside, one thing I've definitely noticed about recent updates is not picture quality, but reliability of the RVU for directv. I had a lot of problems (especially with switching between two shows) and they have mostly gone away. Also, I think the RVU is noticeably faster. It may just be imagination, but the lag is not so bad anymore.
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FW # 1510.3 calibration with HDR 2 Point

Note: The JU7100 does NOT have dual setting capability for SDR and HDR 2 Point settings !
Since I don't watch HDR Videos on this set, I leave on the SDR 2 Point settings. If watching a fair amount of HDR Material, leave 2 Point on HDR settings.
(If regular viewing is not worth watching with HDR settings, then you may have to swap them out - personally, did not find the HDR settings objectionable.)
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Only have the 75", and see no banding issues. Are you in the right 4.2.0 setting? Are you trying to use 4.4.4 with older HDMI cables?
I'm not certain on weather I'm set to 4:4:4 or 4:2:0. Can you refresh me on how to check this setting? I'm running a fiber optic HDMI which is about as good as you can get currently so should be no problem with that.

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The only time I had any noticeable banding was with my Roku Ultra set by default at 4:2:2 color. When I changed it to 4:2:0 it went away.
Not sure where I'm set to. Can you refresh my memory on where to check this setting?

Thanks to both for your help!
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I'm not certain on weather I'm set to 4:4:4 or 4:2:0. Can you refresh me on how to check this setting? I'm running a fiber optic HDMI which is about as good as you can get currently so should be no problem with that.



Not sure where I'm set to. Can you refresh my memory on where to check this setting?

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Settings are usually part of the setups of each input device. Since there's a ton of different menu's, I'm afraid you'll have to ask various Members how to setup the specific device you're using.

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I'm not certain on weather I'm set to 4:4:4 or 4:2:0. Can you refresh me on how to check this setting? I'm running a fiber optic HDMI which is about as good as you can get currently so should be no problem with that.



Not sure where I'm set to. Can you refresh my memory on where to check this setting?

Thanks to both for your help!
The Roku has the settings hidden in a special menu that can only be accessed with a specific button press combination. I don't have that information available to me right now, but a search for Roku Hidden Menus will return a bunch of them. Other devices, I can't help. Also, make sure you've enabled UHD Color in the TV's display options.

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Quick update. I went through the Oppo set up menu and changed the color space to 4:2:0 and I'm seeing noticeably less banding. Occasionally (and keep in mind i'm looking for it) I could see a trace of it but much better.

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I just got a pop up on my TV saying a 955S Samsung hone wanted to connect to it....WTF? That googles out to a Sprint Galaxy S8+, which my family doesn't have. The TV is connected to WIRED LAN cable...where is this connection request coming from, how is it possible, what what connection type would I get this blue TV box request? I have UPnP disabled on my router, so that can't be it. Does the TV keep a open BT or WiFi direct channel open and listening?

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I just got a pop up on my TV saying a 955S Samsung hone wanted to connect to it....WTF? That googles out to a Sprint Galaxy S8+, which my family doesn't have. The TV is connected to WIRED LAN cable...where is this connection request coming from, how is it possible, what what connection type would I get this blue TV box request? I have UPnP disabled on my router, so that can't be it. Does the TV keep a open BT or WiFi direct channel open and listening?

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Sounds like Screen Mirroring. Under Network->Multimedia Device Manager you can see a list of devices and if you allow, deny, etc.
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How was screen mirroring communicating, WiFi or BT?

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Has anyone had an issue when engaging HDR where the screen turns pink? This happens to me with the Xbox One S and my PS4 Pro. I can close the game and relaunch and that usually resolves it.
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Has anyone tried the new Fire TV 4K Ultra HD device with the JU7100 yet? This is my first HDR-capable playback device, so I’m not sure where to start re fine tuning the settings.
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Has anyone tried the new Fire TV 4K Ultra HD device with the JU7100 yet? This is my first HDR-capable playback device, so I’m not sure where to start re fine tuning the settings.
Only the 2 Point can be tweaked for HDR on this set. CMS and Grayscale automatically comes from Samsung's settings in the ASM, whenever HDR is detected.
Note: the JU7100 does NOT have dual settings for SDR and HDR 2 Point. It's one or the other, or you can activate the Cal Day and Night, and set one for HDR (Preferably Movie Mode for HDR,) and with SDR set into the Cal Night or Day - your preference. Or, like me, I just just use the Movie Mode with the HDR 2 Point settings for both.
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Only the 2 Point can be tweaked for HDR on this set. CMS and Grayscale automatically comes from Samsung's settings in the ASM, whenever HDR is detected.
Note: the JU7100 does NOT have dual settings for SDR and HDR 2 Point. It's one or the other, or you can activate the Cal Day and Night, and set one for HDR (Preferably Movie Mode for HDR,) and with SDR set into the Cal Night or Day - your preference. Or, like me, I just just use the Movie Mode with the HDR 2 Point settings for both.
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It looks like all of the HDMI ports are equally capable of handling the HDR signal. Correct?

The device gives me the ability to select 8, 10, or 12 bit color depth. Which do I want?
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Heya Guys ! got the new Xbox One X. And I updated the 75 inch version of the TV to 1510.3
I'm wondering about setting up the HDR, I been threw all the TV menus looking for anything related to HDR, but couldn't see it, unless I missed something.
on the Xbox I have it set to 10 bit color, 12 bit is also selectable and I tried that but I don't know if this tv actually supports the 12 bit color. ( the color seems fine in both 10 and 12)
So also as my second question and to Mirror njmikes question, which bit depth works best for this TV?

How do I know if the HDR is even working?
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First, make sure you've enabled UHD Color on the HDMI input you are using for the XBox. If the JU7100 detects a HDR signal, you can see it in the video menu because the backlight goes to 100%, along with one other setting that I can't remember. There is on on-screen indicator. But it should be noticeable.

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First, make sure you've enabled UHD Color on the HDMI input you are using for the XBox. If the JU7100 detects a HDR signal, you can see it in the video menu because the backlight goes to 100%, along with one other setting that I can't remember. There is on on-screen indicator. But it should be noticeable.
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What about the bit ? 8 10 or 12?
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What about the bit ? 8 10 or 12?
Our panels are quoted as being 10 bit, although there's been some debate about if that's completely true of if software is making them appear as 10 bit. When my Roku was streaming at 12 bit settings (4:2:2 instead of 4:2:0) I had noticeable color banding, particularly in sky shots. Changing the Roku 10 10 bit cleared it up.

To my knowledge, there's no consumer displays with native 12 bit panels.

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Just got the Xbox One X and I'm currently playing Assassins Creed origins. Do I enable YCC 4:2:2 in the video advance settings? The system by default disables 4:2:2 and it looks great, the colors pop. But when the game gets really dark during in game night time events. Enabling 4:2:2 makes it look better but the color washes out a bit. Any settings recommendation is greatly appreciated?
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Just got the Xbox One X and I'm currently playing Assassins Creed origins. Do I enable YCC 4:2:2 in the video advance settings? The system by default disables 4:2:2 and it looks great, the colors pop. But when the game gets really dark during in game night time events. Enabling 4:2:2 makes it look better but the color washes out a bit. Any settings recommendation is greatly appreciated?
I thought the recommendation is for 4.2.0.

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Just got the Xbox One X and I'm currently playing Assassins Creed origins. Do I enable YCC 4:2:2 in the video advance settings? The system by default disables 4:2:2 and it looks great, the colors pop. But when the game gets really dark during in game night time events. Enabling 4:2:2 makes it look better but the color washes out a bit. Any settings recommendation is greatly appreciated?
There's a bug with HDR for movies that has been patched if you're in the alpha or beta preview but I don't think it should be affecting gameplay, other than possibly cutscenes. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/141-xbox-area/
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Has anyone had an issue when engaging HDR where the screen turns pink? This happens to me with the Xbox One S and my PS4 Pro. I can close the game and relaunch and that usually resolves it.

I am in the same boat. It is rather annoying.
I thought it was a handshake issue due to my receiver.
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I know this has probably been beat to death and I have read through some of the posts here but going through all the many of posts have kept me up late and weary trying to find all details to my recent purchase of the Samsung 85 in. ju7100. Purchase price 3,400. TS01 board made in Mexico. I had reservations about the T.V. as newer Tv's have upgraded systems and more of an true HDR integration. I bought this because of the price, size and 3D capabilities that I have invested in. It's hard to put money even of this amount into 2 year old tech. but I hope it's worth it. Considering it used to be 10 grand TV 2 years ago it seemed like a good deal. It seems like a wonderful picture. Is this a worthy tv to keep? I hope so. Better than the Mitsubishi 82 in. DLP I had for years. I wish I could be certain if this was a 8, 10 bit TV. Is there really HDR hardware processing in this TV? could SOMEONE pm me the cal-day/cal night instructions?

I would appreciate any feedback about my purchase. Thank you

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I know this has probably been beat to death and I have read through some of the posts here but going through all the many of posts have kept me up late and weary trying to find all details to my recent purchase of the Samsung 85 in. ju7100. Purchase price 3,400. TS01 board made in Mexico. I had reservations about the T.V. as newer Tv's have upgraded systems and more of an true HDR integration. I bought this because of the price, size and 3D capabilities that I have invested in. It's hard to put money even of this amount into 2 year old tech. but I hope it's worth it. Considering it used to be 10 grand TV 2 years ago it seemed like a good deal. It seems like a wonderful picture. Is this a worthy tv to keep? I hope so. Better than the Mitsubishi 82 in. DLP I had for years. I wish I could be certain if this was a 8, 10 bit TV. Is there really HDR hardware processing in this TV? could SOMEONE pm me the cal-day/cal night instructions?

I would appreciate any feedback about my purchase. Thank you
I'm in the same boat -- just ordered the 85 inch ju7100 to replace an 82 inch 1080p Mitsubishi DLP. From looking at the ju7100 review on rtings.com, it looks like the ju7100 can "accept" HDR signals but lacks the hardware to reproduce those signals with sufficient contrast/brightness. I would love to have that, but I just got an Xbox One X and need the 4K resolution now. I'm telling myself: this TV has much better black levels, contrast and picture than what I have now, has much better resolution (4K) and great input lag (for gaming), plus it's a little bit bigger than what I have now, plus the price is definitely right ($3,700ish). This will give me the patience to wait for an 85 inch OLED at a decent price in about 5 years. I thought about going with the 85 inch LeEco but was concerned about support -- I hear they are nice sets but I'm more risk averse on that front. It may be that this set can put out some impressive HDR type output -- if so, that's gravy -- but I'm not getting my hopes up. (And for the 99% of people on this thread that know more than me, I'd be (very) happy to be corrected on this set's HDR capabilities...)
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I'm in the same boat -- just ordered the 85 inch ju7100 to replace an 82 inch 1080p Mitsubishi DLP. From looking at the ju7100 review on rtings.com, it looks like the ju7100 can "accept" HDR signals but lacks the hardware to reproduce those signals with sufficient contrast/brightness. I would love to have that, but I just got an Xbox One X and need the 4K resolution now. I'm telling myself: this TV has much better black levels, contrast and picture than what I have now, has much better resolution (4K) and great input lag (for gaming), plus it's a little bit bigger than what I have now, plus the price is definitely right ($3,700ish). This will give me the patience to wait for an 85 inch OLED at a decent price in about 5 years. I thought about going with the 85 inch LeEco but was concerned about support -- I hear they are nice sets but I'm more risk averse on that front. It may be that this set can put out some impressive HDR type output -- if so, that's gravy -- but I'm not getting my hopes up. (And for the 99% of people on this thread that know more than me, I'd be (very) happy to be corrected on this set's HDR capabilities...)
I will tell you this. Maybe I've just been so used to looking at my Mitsubishi 82 DLP but the picture quality I have seen from this Samsung TV has really impressed me and others that have seen it. It is in the back of my mind regarding the HDR but WOW this tv is amazing for the price. I like your idea of looking into the future for an 85 or so OLED and feel the same way. I purchased a 4 year warranty so at that time I will look into as TV's continue to evolve. Probably HDRversion 2 or 3 by that time! lol What are you doing with your old Mitsubishi? Mine still works good. Trying to figure up a good price point to sell.
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I will tell you this. Maybe I've just been so used to looking at my Mitsubishi 82 DLP but the picture quality I have seen from this Samsung TV has really impressed me and others that have seen it. It is in the back of my mind regarding the HDR but WOW this tv is amazing for the price. I like your idea of looking into the future for an 85 or so OLED and feel the same way. I purchased a 4 year warranty so at that time I will look into as TV's continue to evolve. Probably HDRversion 2 or 3 by that time! lol What are you doing with your old Mitsubishi? Mine still works good. Trying to figure up a good price point to sell.
Good point about HDR -- I sort of like to have a big "jump" in each of my sets -- I went from 55 inch to 82 inch (which was a huge step up), then from 1080p to 4K (with a little bump up in size), so it'd be nice if the next jump was from (essentially) no HDR to HDR 3.0. I looked around at local Craigslist postings for the DLP, and only saw one -- the poster was asking $200 (for pickup only). So technology has really left these behind, it seems. (I mean, the JU7100 I ordered was $8,000 or so not too long ago -- so I'm benefiting from the trend as much as it's hurting resale values.) I'll probably ending up giving the DLP to a friend -- that way I can still visit sometimes ...
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Is there any pro or con for leaving UHD color enabled? Or should I just disable it as I don't have any HDR sources and all I have is a ps4 (regular) and apple tv (non 4k) and I use the samsung apps for netflix and amazon prime videos. I have a receiver connected via arc from my TV to my receiver and all inputs are connected from the receiver (not the tv).

I do use airplay every now and then from my macbook pro retina to my tv if that matters as well.
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Is there any pro or con for leaving UHD color enabled? Or should I just disable it as I don't have any HDR sources and all I have is a ps4 (regular) and apple tv (non 4k) and I use the samsung apps for netflix and amazon prime videos. I have a receiver connected via arc from my TV to my receiver and all inputs are connected from the receiver (not the tv).

I do use airplay every now and then from my macbook pro retina to my tv if that matters as well.
I leave it enabled on all my ports. Haven't noticed any issue doing so. Besides, my devices all connect through the AVR, so HD and UHD all go to the TV via a single port anyway.

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