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I want to thank Chad for reviewing the HD capabilities of the JS9500.
I am mainly interested in its upscaling capabilities, from 1920x1080 to UHD.


I have made hundreds of videos and slide slows, and even taken 4 x3 (semi watchable) videos from Utube, and using software (Magix), converted them into 1920 x 1080, (cropping) so they keep their
proper perspective ratios. Most of them look great, MP4HD, on my 9 year old Sharp Aquos being fed the videos, via Roku 3, with a portable hard drive. I'm 72, so videos from the 40-60's are "My cup of Tea"


I also watch Home improvement shows, Golf, football and Nature programs, most from the Dish, alto some are from Roku channels.


Folks come over and tell me what an amazing picture my old Sharp has. One person that commented has one of the newest 4K TV's (albeit a 2014 model) Samsung, and also a Pioneer Plasma.


I'm looking for a TV that can upscale 1920 x 1080 to UHD, and one would think, it should not be that hard to find one that could beat a 9 year old Sharp?????


I do thank you for the review, Chad, but I'm still somewhat confused by the review, I see "this and that problem, but you reach a conclusion of
"The JS9500 displays a beautiful picture with HD content, though there are other displays that can make the same claim. While I liked the image a lot, I am not about to crown it the best display of all time; at least not until I get to evaluate it with some quality UHD and HDR content. For now, I’ll say the JS9500 is good enough to make me very eager to push it to it’s limits when appropriate content becomes available.


So color me "confused", I guess all I can do is take my usb thumb down to Best Buy with some of my videos on it and watch it on a JS9000, since the 65" JS9500 will not fit where the Sharp is now, or I can just wait for the shootout and other reviews to come along on the New OLED, and some other sets, Like I said, the most important thing "to me", is how well the TV upconverts Full HD to UHD, if it can't beat my old Sharp, picture quality wise, then we will just wait.


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I am so behind on this thread its not even funny (I used to visit at least twice a day). So please forgive me if these questions have already been asked but:

1. Has there been any word on the life expectancy of Quantum Dots?

2. Supposedly this TV puts a pseudo HDR effect on non native HDR content. Can this be disabled? Also, does this have any strikingly noticeable effect (positive or negative)?

3. Does this TV come with any sort of "UHD Video Pack" like the HU9000 did? Also, does said pack include HDR graded content such as the Life of Pi movie?

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1 dunno to my knowledge same life expectancy
2 yes psuedo can be disabled for HDR
3 nobody has received a UHD pack with any sets
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I am so behind on this thread its not even funny (I used to visit at least twice a day). So please forgive me if these questions have already been asked but:

1. Has there been any word on the life expectancy of Quantum Dots?

2. Supposedly this TV puts a pseudo HDR effect on non native HDR content. Can this be disabled? Also, does this have any strikingly noticeable effect (positive or negative)?

3. Does this TV come with any sort of "UHD Video Pack" like the HU9000 did? Also, does said pack include HDR graded content such as the Life of Pi movie?

Thanks
Good questions.

1. I think QD is just a combination of film and color filters. Nothing to wear out or fade.
2. Yes, I believe you can shut off the HDR effect. Also, I think you can set how aggressive it is applied for non-native HDR.
3. Only the professional review sites seem to be getting the USB thumb drive with the native HDR demos of Life of Pi, Exodus, Oblivion, and The Great Gatsby.

Hopefully, they will soon include these short demo clips in the consumer UHD drive or at least let you eventually download them.
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The 88'' is on samsung site,nothing about the 78''

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN88JS9500FXZA
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Watched Taken 3 tonight on Bluray...Man the picture is awesome with those calibrated settings from avforums and smartled on standard setting.


Best tv I had in years...will definitely carry me over until March next year or hopefully a year longer...before the next big thing arrives...


Even upscaling from low bitrate SD broadcast from satellite is done very well on the 9500.


Even less artifacts then on my previous 46 inch set.


This will keep me satisfied until full RGB Oled will be available..
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So funny to me the usual suspects keep downplaying this set . This discussion is for people who are genuinely interested in the set if you don't like it or think its inadequate why continue to post here? Not like we did not hear you the 50 previous times that you think the set is trash smh . I for one can't wait for the shoot outs to begin . Mark my words the only thing that will beat this set this year are the blacks of OLED but from what I have read and seen thus far the SUHD has superior colours by far(DCI P3) and gets much brighter than OLED. Sony is meh this year only the 75 inch 940c does HDR and we don't know if it's standard or Sony's own in house solution. Panny will have great colours but will they have horrible banding like last year? OLED can't get as bright and TBH they will probably need to add quantum dots and develop a better OLED panel to get HDR so looking like 2016(speculation on my part).

So many like to nit pick on LED shortcomings when the truth of the matter is all displays technologies have their own shortcomings. OLED is reported to have multi colours on whites or very bad motion also possibility of burn in not to mention blk crush due to infinite blacks which causes calibrators to grey within 5 minutes of hooking up equipment to sets

IPS has great viewing angles but poor contrast and lighter blacks. LED has poorer off axis and blacks are not OLED black but gets brighter . Plasma can't get as bright as led can get burn in and can't do 4k. No such thing as perfect set. I don't think OLED will be able to do HDR this year I think the battle will be between 9500 and 940c its gunna come down to HDR and colour space both will have great BLK levels due to fald.

I go on 940C page and don't run down the set even though I am more interested in SUHD . I think it's a great year for 4k tv's and can't wait to see who is crowned king but enough with the bashing already you said your piece have some respect for the owners of the set and people who are interested in the tech. Yes freedom of speech on these boards but you guys just keep coming in here and saying the same stuff every time say your opinion and let it be. Now it is just irritating to see the same people spewing the same lines over and over again. Mods really need to clean this stuff up .

I think OLED is the future TBH but it's still to early the need to work out more kinks but I do love me some OLED blacks. If SUHD can almost get me there but have HDR and much higher colour gamut the 5-10% worse blacks is a better trade off IMO.
I couldn't of said it better player002. Suffice it to say TBH I suspect it's not gonna change, for when people get into a mindset it rarely changes. People are people. But even so I feel sorry for the actual & potential owners who will or have already spent their hard earned monies having to read through all of these negative postings that appear to go in endless Cern type of circles despite many positive injunctions are still parleyed with much doom and gloom.

I don't expect them to be a fanboy and a certain amount of contrary balance is even appreciated... until the scale tips due to the constant flipping of the typed middle finger towards one of the very best 4k offerings for 2015 that is undeniable from the owners and respected professional reviewers IMO.

I still await offerings from Vizio R series, the elusive data of the 940c and lastly Sharp B4K80" due 3rd quarter. These aforementioned sets have their work cut out for them when they appear upon the market as Samsung JS9500 has set the bar. For me OLED unfortunately is not even a consideration in my size needed of 70 - 85 inches due to price. I look forward to watching these LCD's of 2015 going into UHD battle.

Seeing the transition from 2012 to 2015 in TV tech and how far they have come, I can only imagine what they may come up with in 2016 for the sheeple. But this rabbit is not gonna chase that perpetual carrot any longer. 2015 IS IT!


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Good questions.


2. Yes, I believe you can shut off the HDR effect. Also, I think you can set how aggressive it is applied for non-native HDR.
how? or rather how can i check its on?
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how? or rather how can i check its on?
Setting it to natural and shutting off or lowering Smart LED should eliminate HDR restore.
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Setting it to natural and shutting off or lowering Smart LED should eliminate HDR restore.
Yep smartled setting enables pseudo-HR. Standard or lower no HDR remastering, smartled on high HDR enabled...produces a very bright picture which causes at least for me with my Dry Eye Syndrom too much uncomfort for longer watching so I set it on standard...still a very punchy bright picture with great contrast but not overbright.


Hopefully real HDR movies will not cause this problem...
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The 88'' is on samsung site,nothing about the 78''

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN88JS9500FXZA
It's great that you provided the link, but if scroll down to Specifications and download spec sheet, it has info on the 78" too
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Firmware version 1206 for the U.S. was just released. For me it fixed the issues I had with playing Ultraflix videos.
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN65JS9500-Curved-65-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00T48CZB6/

I wanted to order from amazon but they are out of stock, can anyone suggest third party sellers from the list? price is the same just worried about service etc. thank you.
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Firmware version 1206 for the U.S. was just released. For me it fixed the issues I had with playing Ultraflix videos.

That's fast...We in Europe are still on 1203...


Have you noticed any other changes in picture quality or behavior? Although better then a awesome picture will not be possible.....
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN65JS9500-Curved-65-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00T48CZB6/

I wanted to order from amazon but they are out of stock, can anyone suggest third party sellers from the list? price is the same just worried about service etc. thank you.
I had a very positive experience with onecall.
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The 88'' is on samsung site,nothing about the 78''

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN88JS9500FXZA
It's great that you provided the link, but if scroll down to Specifications and download spec sheet, it has info on the 78" too
Should not be long now nice that Samsung almost has their whole 2015 line up out.... Amazing actually !
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Should not be long now nice that Samsung almost has their whole 2015 line up out.... Amazing actually !
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Just got back from a local high end A/V store and looked at the 9500 vs the 950B. The 9500 is the superior set to my eye, and I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger. Can we expect a price drop out of the 9500 in the next couple months? Or should I just go for it?
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1 dunno to my knowledge same life expectancy
2 yes psuedo can be disabled for HDR
3 nobody has received a UHD pack with any sets

As far as getting a UHD video pack with a new Samsung. A good friend of mine just bought a 2014 85in 8550 and the dealer he purchased from (VE)-- thru one in with it. Great stuff

Nothing is so firmly believed as that which least is known
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Here are some videos of JS9500

The contrast and brightness look very bright to me on the SUHD demo they show and black levels look very deep

https://youtu.be/ELcA2wSFTfs

This video JS9500 spanks both F8500 and hu8550

https://youtu.be/O_dLhCYDfTQ

I have yet to see Samsung compare HU9000 to JS9500 its always f8500 or 8550 . 8550 was not the flagship in 2014 so why not compare 9000 unless 9000 compares favorably or OCB will bring it close food for thought. 9000 wont overcome quantum dots but it is a 10 bit panel so it can do the new colour gamut hmmmmm







According to this video and UK reviews of this set, they get two remotes and we only get one (smart remote). I checked with Samsung and they said only one for here also. That seems odd. Anyone know why?
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Good questions.

1. I think QD is just a combination of film and color filters. Nothing to wear out or fade.
Looks like it is similar as sony did with QD, Quantum Dots ( Nano Crystals) combined with blue LEDs.
http://www.cnet.com/news/quantum-dot...cd-tvs-better/

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Thanks for posting such breathlessly waited purchase link for the famous Samsung UN78JS9500 but, OUCH, that msrp is way/way more than I expected it to be.
Even if it could be found discounted 1/3 off list price it would still cost $10,000.00, an amount of money that I cannot justify paying for such fast-changing technology as home electronics, specifically flat display tech.
Yeah, it's great to own a UHDTV with HDR, improved FALD, 2020 color space, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, etc, but insofar as displays larger than 75" why are manufacturers still under the assumption that a large percentage of the buying public would be able to afford them at such premium cost ?


I am definitely going to get my much waited 78"~85" UHDTV sometime this year BUT my purchase "litmus test" is rather simple, $5,000.00 to $5,500.00 maximum cost and I imagine the majority of the buying public feels likewise. Needless to point out it must have a well-regarded FALD and be professionally tested for DSE, light leakage, banding, video processing abilities, etc; The way things look right now my only choices are the JVC DM85UXR at Costco for $6,000.00 or the rumored 2015 Vizio 80" P-Series, which I imagine would have a msrp around $4,500.00 considering the M-Series is $4,000.00.


Call me a "cheapo" but I wonder how many of you guys are realistically considering spending $10.000.00 to $15,000.00 to buy a flat display larger than 75" ?

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Thanks for posting such breathlessly waited purchase link for the famous Samsung UN78JS9500 but, OUCH, that msrp is way/way more than I expected it to be.
Even if it could be found discounted 1/3 off list price it would still cost $10,000.00, an amount of money that I cannot justify paying for such fast-changing technology as home electronics, specifically flat display tech.
Yeah, it's great to own a UHDTV with HDR, improved FALD, 2020 color space, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, etc, but insofar as displays larger than 75" why are manufacturers still under the assumption that a large percentage of the buying public would be able to afford them at such premium cost ?


I am definitely going to get my much waited 78"~85" UHDTV sometime this year BUT my purchase "litmus test" is rather simple, $5,000.00 to $5,500.00 maximum cost and I imagine the majority of the buying public feels likewise. Needless to point out it must have a well-regarded FALD and be professionally tested for DSE, light leakage, banding, video processing abilities, etc; The way things look right now my only choices are the JVC DM85UXR at Costco for $6,000.00 or the rumored 2015 Vizio 80" P-Series, which I imagine would have a msrp around $4,500.00 considering the M-Series is $4,000.00.


Call me a "cheapo" but I wonder how many of you guys are realistically considering spending $10.000.00 to $15,000.00 to buy a flat display larger than 75" ?
if you had included the qualifier 'LED/LCD' you could probably count the responders here on the Forum on your 10 fingers

If you don't already know, JVC has sold their brand name for TVs to a Chinese manufacturer, so those JVC TVs have nothing to do with JVC the Japanese audio company and don't have much of a track record yet...
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Just got back from a local high end A/V store and looked at the 9500 vs the 950B. The 9500 is the superior set to my eye, and I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger. Can we expect a price drop out of the 9500 in the next couple months? Or should I just go for it?
What kind of content did u watch?
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Thanks for posting such breathlessly waited purchase link for the famous Samsung UN78JS9500 but, OUCH, that msrp is way/way more than I expected it to be.
Even if it could be found discounted 1/3 off list price it would still cost $10,000.00, an amount of money that I cannot justify paying for such fast-changing technology as home electronics, specifically flat display tech.
Yeah, it's great to own a UHDTV with HDR, improved FALD, 2020 color space, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, etc, but insofar as displays larger than 75" why are manufacturers still under the assumption that a large percentage of the buying public would be able to afford them at such premium cost ?


I am definitely going to get my much waited 78"~85" UHDTV sometime this year BUT my purchase "litmus test" is rather simple, $5,000.00 to $5,500.00 maximum cost and I imagine the majority of the buying public feels likewise. Needless to point out it must have a well-regarded FALD and be professionally tested for DSE, light leakage, banding, video processing abilities, etc; The way things look right now my only choices are the JVC DM85UXR at Costco for $6,000.00 or the rumored 2015 Vizio 80" P-Series, which I imagine would have a msrp around $4,500.00 considering the M-Series is $4,000.00.


Call me a "cheapo" but I wonder how many of you guys are realistically considering spending $10.000.00 to $15,000.00 to buy a flat display larger than 75" ?
Samsung pricing is make believe. Like dealership MSRP window stickers. On day one the 65J9500 went up with a $2000 off. And can be found for around $5K vs $7995 MSRP or about 62.5% of MSRP pricing. Applying that to the 78" gives you a street around $9500 though you probably have to add a $1000 premium for shipping logistics and loss because of the increased sized. So I would guess a real street around $11,000 to start. You also have to remember they are the only large format WCG/HDR/FALD game in town right now. Summer will bring stiff competition from Sony, Vizio, Sharp and Hisense. Which should result in quickly falling prices.
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Thanks for posting such breathlessly waited purchase link for the famous Samsung UN78JS9500 but, OUCH, that msrp is way/way more than I expected it to be.
Even if it could be found discounted 1/3 off list price it would still cost $10,000.00, an amount of money that I cannot justify paying for such fast-changing technology as home electronics, specifically flat display tech.
Yeah, it's great to own a UHDTV with HDR, improved FALD, 2020 color space, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, etc, but insofar as displays larger than 75" why are manufacturers still under the assumption that a large percentage of the buying public would be able to afford them at such premium cost ?


I am definitely going to get my much waited 78"~85" UHDTV sometime this year BUT my purchase "litmus test" is rather simple, $5,000.00 to $5,500.00 maximum cost and I imagine the majority of the buying public feels likewise. Needless to point out it must have a well-regarded FALD and be professionally tested for DSE, light leakage, banding, video processing abilities, etc; The way things look right now my only choices are the JVC DM85UXR at Costco for $6,000.00 or the rumored 2015 Vizio 80" P-Series, which I imagine would have a msrp around $4,500.00 considering the M-Series is $4,000.00.


Call me a "cheapo" but I wonder how many of you guys are realistically considering spending $10.000.00 to $15,000.00 to buy a flat display larger than 75" ?
Well, if you're set for this year, then it won't be OLED or a JS9500 FALD. You'll be buying a non-FALD, probably edge-lit LCD.
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That's fast...We in Europe are still on 1203...


Have you noticed any other changes in picture quality or behavior? Although better then a awesome picture will not be possible.....
Didn't really any differences in picture quality but I think the built in Sync Plus app is new. I don't ever remember downloading it and it appears in your recent app list by default.
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Firmware version 1206 for the U.S. was just released. For me it fixed the issues I had with playing Ultraflix videos.
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I heard U.F. has Interstellar in remastered 4k. Did you get a chance to view it if so your thoughts?


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I'm not sure if this has been posted, but AVS forum you tube channel had uploaded some videos about the Samsung 2015 models.I don't want to post the videos because they probably are going to be part of an article on the front page.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AVSforumvideos/videos
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