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55" JS dropped also. However, the JU series hasn't budged since launch.
48" dropped in price by $500. I purchased from Paul's TV for $1499. BestBuy also has $1499 price
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Is the JU preferred over the JS ?

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55" JS dropped also. However, the JU series hasn't budged since launch.


The 48" JS8500 is now $1,500 and the 55" is now $2,000. Are you seeking the JU series or JS series ? What are the differences ?

I'd like the best SUHD set by Samsung, 48" to 55".

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The 48" JS8500 is now $1,500 and the 55" is now $2,000. Are you seeking the JU series or JS series ? What are the differences ?

I'd like the best SUHD set, 48" to 55".
Speak of the devil, the JU tvs did have a minor drop today as well tho not as dramatic as the JS line.


I currently have the hu9000. Wont be upgrading, but if I was in the market, I'd go js9000 for sure,but the 8500 is not too shabby itself!
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Speak of the devil, the JU tvs did have a minor drop today as well tho not as dramatic as the JS line.


I currently have the hu9000. Wont be upgrading, but if I was in the market, I'd go js9000 for sure,but the 8500 is not too shabby itself!
How minor of a DROP ?

What are the differences in the JU and JS 8500 ? Which is the best SUHD model 48" to 55" ?
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How minor of a DROP ?

What are the differences in the JU and JS 8500 ? Which is the best SUHD model 48" to 55" ?

looks like the JU tvs dropped 200-300 in the 65" range.

if your budget allows it, definitely go with a JS over a JU. HDR looks very awesome on the JS tvs, better brightness, more realism, its quite amazing actually!

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This review on BestBuy's site doesn't sound promising

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looks like the JU tvs dropped 200-300 in the 65" range.

if your budget allows it, definitely go with a JS over a JU. HDR looks very awesome on the JS tvs, better brightness, more realism, its quite amazing actually!

Total Junk UN65JS8500. Bad light leaks in corners due to the side firing LED technology on the 65" js8500 flat screen. Took one back because of this issue hoping if would be better on a second one. Second one same problem but remote control did not work properly so we could not even get out of the first screen that asked for the language choice. This TV has wasted 3 days of my life and I would have no confidence that it would last over time. Hooked up first one to Xbox Halo and there seemed to be some lag in response time. Any lag in Video Game performance is a real problem. Watched a cable TV movie and the picture was OK in the center but annoying on the edges. At the end of the day this TV is not worth $3499 to $4000. I would not keep it for half that price. We waited for this specific model because it is the latest and greatest 2015 flat screen model from Samsung. If this represents their best flat screen I would not buy anything from them. The 9000 and 9500 JS series are curved screens and we did not want that (nor did we want to pay nearly $6000 for a TV). Called Samsung and sent them a picture of the problem. They sent back a canned reboot process which did nothing. Samsung is not in touch with their quality control and they have no real customer service. After buying 5 or 6 high end Samsung products, the time has come to be rid of them. Extremely frustrating experience and not the quality you would expect for that price. If the JS9500 65" was half the price I would try one of those but so far all I see is expensive garbage here.
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Question JS8500 much better than the HU8550 ?

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looks like the JU tvs dropped 200-300 in the 65" range.

if your budget allows it, definitely go with a JS over a JU. HDR looks very awesome on the JS tvs, better brightness, more realism, its quite amazing actually!
My 60" HU8550 was $1800, and the picture is fantastic. Do you think the JS8500 has a substantially better picture ? The 55" (preferred size for the room) JS8500 is about $2,000.
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My 60" HU8550 was $1800, and the picture is fantastic. Do you think the JS8500 has a substantially better picture ? The 55" (preferred size for the room) JS8500 is about $2,000.

i owned the 8550. the JS8500 blows it outta the water.

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Total Junk UN65JS8500. Bad light leaks in corners due to the side firing LED technology on the 65" js8500 flat screen. Took one back because of this issue hoping if would be better on a second one. Second one same problem but remote control did not work properly so we could not even get out of the first screen that asked for the language choice. This TV has wasted 3 days of my life and I would have no confidence that it would last over time. Hooked up first one to Xbox Halo and there seemed to be some lag in response time. Any lag in Video Game performance is a real problem. Watched a cable TV movie and the picture was OK in the center but annoying on the edges. At the end of the day this TV is not worth $3499 to $4000. I would not keep it for half that price. We waited for this specific model because it is the latest and greatest 2015 flat screen model from Samsung. If this represents their best flat screen I would not buy anything from them. The 9000 and 9500 JS series are curved screens and we did not want that (nor did we want to pay nearly $6000 for a TV). Called Samsung and sent them a picture of the problem. They sent back a canned reboot process which did nothing. Samsung is not in touch with their quality control and they have no real customer service. After buying 5 or 6 high end Samsung products, the time has come to be rid of them. Extremely frustrating experience and not the quality you would expect for that price. If the JS9500 65" was half the price I would try one of those but so far all I see is expensive garbage here.

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i owned the 8550. the JS8500 blows it outta the water.
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Question Few questions, Sir !

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i owned the 8550. the JS8500 blows it outta the water.
Which remote are you using ?
How many seconds for the picture to appear after you turn the set on ?
Are the Smart menus awkward to use ?
Does the metallic bezel bother you ?
How is the JS8500 better than the HU8550 ?
How is the JS8500 not as good as the HU8550 ?
What improvements would you like to see in the JS8500 ?
What size is your screen ?

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Which remote are you using ?
How many seconds for the picture to appear after you turn the set on ?
Are the Smart menus awkward to use ?
Does the metallic bezel bother you ?
How is the JS8500 better than the HU8550 ?
How is the JS8500 not as good as the HU8550 ?
What improvements would you like to see in the JS8500 ?
What size is your screen ?

TIA

i dont have the 65" 8550 anymore, i traded it in for the hu9000.

my old tv had the silver bezel, i didnt like it, but after a while i got used to it. i do prefer black though and would not want to go back to silver. samsung offers the "D" models which have darker bezels.

the JS8500 is brighter, has better color and better upscale too. the fact that hte js8500 will play hdr movies with 100% certainty gives it a clear advantage over the next 5 years.

the only thing the HU8550 does better than the JS8500 is the ability to have a full OCB for upgrades, but i dont think this overcomes the panel improvements on the js8500. it wil always be 40% brighter with better colors.

also, i prefer the regular standard remote, i do not use the egg remote. not sure if i will use the 2015 smart remote or not.
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Any of you order from Paul's tv?

I ordered from Amazon but the seller was Paul's TV. They've reduced the price of the TV, so I am wondering how I can get credited the difference
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Any of you order from Paul's tv?

I ordered from Amazon but the seller was Paul's TV. They've reduced the price of the TV, so I am wondering how I can get credited the difference

I bought from Paul's in store 18 months ago. But that store is now closed because Paul's tv is pulling out of Michigan, the remaining stores here I believe are liquidating inventory.
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Still on the fence: HU8550 $1100 vs JS8500 $2000

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i dont have the 65" 8550 anymore, i traded it in for the hu9000.

my old tv had the silver bezel, i didnt like it, but after a while i got used to it. i do prefer black though and would not want to go back to silver. samsung offers the "D" models which have darker bezels.

the JS8500 is brighter, has better color and better upscale too. the fact that hte js8500 will play hdr movies with 100% certainty gives it a clear advantage over the next 5 years.

the only thing the HU8550 does better than the JS8500 is the ability to have a full OCB for upgrades, but i dont think this overcomes the panel improvements on the js8500. it wil always be 40% brighter with better colors.

also, i prefer the regular standard remote, i do not use the egg remote. not sure if i will use the 2015 smart remote or not.
Dilemma. Looked at TV sets the past two days.

The room wall will accommodate 53", therefore the considerations are the 48" or 55" JS 8500, $1500 and $2000 respectively. If an 8500 is purchased, I'd certainly put black electrical tape over that distracting metal bezel.

Then I saw ye olde HU8550 50" for only $1100 (demo model). Great picture !

How to decide between the 50" HU8550 for $1000 and the 55" 8500 for $2,000 ?
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Dilemma. Looked at TV sets the past two days.

The room wall will accommodate 53", therefore the considerations are the 48" or 55" JS 8500, $1500 and $2000 respectively. If an 8500 is purchased, I'd certainly put black electrical tape over that distracting metal bezel.

Then I saw ye olde HU8550 50" for only $1100 (demo model). Great picture !

How to decide between the 50" HU8550 for $1000 and the 55" 8500 for $2,000 ?

Are u interested in hdr later when it hits?

Also consider the 8550 will need the new ocb upgrade, so tack 300 to 400 on your total.

And regarding the silver bezel, Samsung sells a "d" version with a darker bezel. These are available at both cosco and samsung.com. cisco also gives u a 90 return policy with no questions asked.
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Question E X T E N D E D WARRANTIES. Compare & contrast. Best one ?

Perhaps this is off topic, but could not find a forum here on Extended Warranties.

So if I purchased a JS 8500 for $2,000 so far the following warranties have been mentioned by dealers:

1. SquareTrade: Highly rated, $175 - $200 fee, five years, must sign up within 30 days of purchase. The benefit cannot exceed $2000. ST can cash you out.

2. The Warranty Group: Sometimes free with TV purchase, and valued at $200 for five years. Dealers claim the TWG is the administrator of Samsung factory own warranty, and on official Samsung literature it indeed states "administered by TWG Innovative Solutions, Inc." in Chicago, IL. Same organization ? Haven't seen the contract language, but have been told that the benefit can exceed the original price of the TV, however if they replace the TV then the contract is over. You have the right to purchase a new contract with any replacement TV. TWG is said to have some bad reviews on the Internet. Will check.

3. Geek Squad: Five years maximum, but can renew after that (unlike #1 and #2 above). Owned by Best Buy and it's a whopping $500 to $800 (depending upon some extra services). There's no limit on repairs, but like #2 above, you can be cashed out with a set replacement. Geek Squad alleges that they will handle even the first year (Manufacturer's).

Any of you know which extended warranty is the best, including the three listed above ?

Thanks.

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What ? Costco sells a JS8500 ????

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Are u interested in hdr later when it hits?

Also consider the 8550 will need the new ocb upgrade, so tack 300 to 400 on your total.

And regarding the silver bezel, Samsung sells a "d" version with a darker bezel. These are available at both cosco and samsung.com. cisco also gives u a 90 return policy with no questions asked.

Thank you. Do you mean that Costco sells a model IDENTICAL to the JS8500 ? I always heard Costco never carries top end TV sets. What is the exact Costco model number ?

Why does the 8550 need any upgrade ? Will it fail to work if the upgrade is not done ?

Pardon ignorance - - - what is "HDR" ?

I don't mind putting black electrical tape on that silver bezel. Cheap, easy, and quick.
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Thank you. Do you mean that Costco sells a model IDENTICAL to the JS8500 ? I always heard Costco never carries top end TV sets. What is the exact Costco model number ?

Why does the 8550 need any upgrade ? Will it fail to work if the upgrade is not done ?

Pardon ignorance - - - what is "HDR" ?

I don't mind putting black electrical tape on that silver bezel. Cheap, easy, and quick.
the cosco version is called the JS 850D

the new One Connect Box upgrade will give you 2015 features, and a better picture as well. the tv overall will perform better with the upgrade, but the JS8500 will still have a better picture due to panel improvements in 2015.

HDR is high dynamic range, its similar to 4k content but its better. most 4k blu rays will also be encoded with HDR, so if you have an HDR tv you will watch the HDR version, if you do not have HDR then you will watch the regular 4k version.
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the cosco version is called the JS 850D

the new One Connect Box upgrade will give you 2015 features, and a better picture as well. the tv overall will perform better with the upgrade, but the JS8500 will still have a better picture due to panel improvements in 2015.

HDR is high dynamic range, its similar to 4k content but its better. most 4k blu rays will also be encoded with HDR, so if you have an HDR tv you will watch the HDR version, if you do not have HDR then you will watch the regular 4k version.

Looks like Costco only has 65" in that model: http://www.costco.com/Samsung-65%22-...100178040.html

and Samsung only has the 65": http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS850DFXZA

65" is too big.

How do you know they are identical ? If they are identical, why have two model numbers ? (Other than Costco's model number are often unique).

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the cosco version is called the JS 850D

the new One Connect Box upgrade will give you 2015 features, and a better picture as well. the tv overall will perform better with the upgrade, but the JS8500 will still have a better picture due to panel improvements in 2015.

HDR is high dynamic range, its similar to 4k content but its better. most 4k blu rays will also be encoded with HDR, so if you have an HDR tv you will watch the HDR version, if you do not have HDR then you will watch the regular 4k version.
Wil HDR be "not noticeable" similar to the 4k content if I am 14' away from a 75" TV per the charts?
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Obviously I'm in research mode just like you, and haven't purchased a new set yet. I can tell you that HDR video will have an impact on picture quality (from lighting to saturation to the overall number of colors reproduced) regardless of screen size though.
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Wil HDR be "not noticeable" similar to the 4k content if I am 14' away from a 75" TV per the charts?

i have a 65" tv and sit 12-14 feet away, and i can see the difference in 4k from that distance, dont listen to the naysayers using silly charts! if you have an 75" HDR tv, yes you will certainly see the difference from 15 feet away, the colors and the pop are off the charts, the colors are actually STRONGER so you will still see them from far away easily, though 14 feet really isnt that far.
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i have a 65" tv and sit 12-14 feet away, and i can see the difference in 4k from that distance, dont listen to the naysayers using silly charts! if you have an 75" HDR tv, yes you will certainly see the difference from 15 feet away, the colors and the pop are off the charts, the colors are actually STRONGER so you will still see them from far away easily, though 14 feet really isnt that far.
Thanks for that info!!!

I will now need to figure out what models will have HDR.
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Guys the js8500 in bestbuy is down to $2,999 . i just got it exactly 2 weeks ago for $3,499 and a few hours ago i managed to get $500 dollars off my purchase.
i'm very happy now !
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Guys the js8500 in bestbuy is down to $2,999 . i just got it exactly 2 weeks ago for $3,499 and a few hours ago i managed to get $500 dollars off my purchase.
i'm very happy now !
i dont know why i cant edit this post,but i forgot to mention that its the 65" obviously
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Does the 55 in model have the same panels as the 65 and 75? Are there any differences other than the size?
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Perhaps this is off topic, but could not find a forum here on Extended Warranties.

So if I purchased a JS 8500 for $2,000 so far the following warranties have been mentioned by dealers:

1. SquareTrade: Highly rated, $175 - $200 fee, five years, must sign up within 30 days of purchase. The benefit cannot exceed $2000. ST can cash you out.

2. The Warranty Group: Sometimes free with TV purchase, and valued at $200 for five years. Dealers claim the TWG is the administrator of Samsung factory own warranty, and on official Samsung literature it indeed states "administered by TWG Innovative Solutions, Inc." in Chicago, IL. Same organization ? Haven't seen the contract language, but have been told that the benefit can exceed the original price of the TV, however if they replace the TV then the contract is over. You have the right to purchase a new contract with any replacement TV. TWG is said to have some bad reviews on the Internet. Will check.

3. Geek Squad: Five years maximum, but can renew after that (unlike #1 and #2 above). Owned by Best Buy and it's a whopping $500 to $800 (depending upon some extra services). There's no limit on repairs, but like #2 above, you can be cashed out with a set replacement. Geek Squad alleges that they will handle even the first year (Manufacturer's).

Any of you know which extended warranty is the best, including the three listed above ?

Thanks.


So do you folks NOT purchase extended policies ? Don't know about them ? Don't care ? Has anyone here had their Samsung go bad after the one year Samsung warranty ?
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