Originally Posted by royfash
I’ve been working on setting up my new AV system (TV, AVR and BD are new, rest all legacy devices). This stuff is much more complex than my older equipment, but I’ve learned a ton of stuff reading this forum (I’ve read up to post 11,000 or so, will get to the rest too).
I’d like opinions on the way I have set things up, primarily for audio purposes (been having issues getting audio / video to sync for all sources) and for ease of use by my wife. Please comment on possible improvements. And I’d really like all suggestions on achieving a good audio sync for all of the AV sources given that I don’t have a scope – I’m finding it very difficult to get a good sync just by listening to speech while watching mouths move. Is there something I can stream using the SmartHub to at least make it easier to set the audio delay value for media streamed from the SmartHub? What about for the BD and AT&T U-Verse signals??
Here are the devices I have and the related cabling:
TV - UN55JS8500. I see Prime19’s picture calibration settings, but I have not applied them yet. Will changing those values also affect the value I need to select for Audio Delay for various sources?
HDMI 1 – AT&T U-Verse box.
HDMI 2 – unused
HDMI 3 - unused
HDMI 4 – ARC connection back to AVR Main Out.
> Analog connections:
Phono (RCA) – Phonograph
TV/CD (RCA) – CD player
PC – no connection
Game – No connection
STB/DVR – No connection
CBL/SAT (RCA) – Tape player
BD/DVD – No connection
SUB - Subwoofer
5.1 speaker setup in use now, maybe 7.1 some time later.
> HDMI Connections:
HDMI 1 BD/DVD – Sony BDPS3500 Bluray player, with AVR video up-scaling turned off
HDMI 2 CBL/SAT – No connection
HDMI 3 STB/DVR – No connection
HDMI 4 Game – No connection
HDMI 5 PC – No connection
HDMI 6 – No connection
HDMI Main Out – JS8500 HDMI 4 (ARC)
Ran full audio setup on the Onkyo, results in great sound!
Reasons why I cabled like this are:
I want best possible sound for our 3 main sources of video viewing: U-verse box (HD live and DVR recorded), Bluray, and streamed video from the TV’s Smart Hub. We use the AVR for the audio for all sources, and TV speakers are disabled.
My wife views U-verse stuff (live or DVR recorded) almost all the time, so I want it to be as simple as possible for her to turn on the TV and watch from the U-verse source with sound coming out of the AVR. The ARC enabled lets my wife click the power button on the TV remote which turns on the TV and AVR at the same time (It would be great if U-Verse box would turn on too, but I don’t think that is possible). TV will display the available inputs, and U-verse shows up near the beginning of the list since is connected to the TV’s HDMI 1. U-verse box always puts out a signal, even when turned “off” (shows a screen saver with instructions to press a key on the U-verse remote to view). She clicks the U-verse source (if not already selected) with the TV remote and is good to go. The Onkyo changes to TV/CD input even if not left that way at last use (we all know how that works!). At that point wife can just use the U-verse remote to select what to view and to operate the volume (as soon as I set up the U-verse remote to control the AVR volume). So very simple – turn on the TV with TV remote, use TV remote to select U-verse source if not already selected, and then use the U-verse remote she already know how to operate. When done viewing, turn off U-verse with U-verse remote and then use TV remote to turn off the TV and AVR.
If wife wants to listen to any one of the legacy audio devices instead, she can turn on the AVR using the power button on the AVR or using the power button on the AVR remote (this doesn’t turn on the TV, which is good), then select the legacy audio source from the AVR remote or front panel of the AVR.
Perhaps a different option would be to disable ARC, move the U-verse box to the AVR STB/DVR HDMI connection, and use an optical cable between the TV and the TV/CD port on the AVR to get sound for sources streamed using the TV’s Smart Hub. Turning on the TV would not automatically turn on the AVR, but I could configure the U-Verse remote to turn on the AVR when U-verse is turned on. With this setup I think the Onkyo AVR would power up with the last used input selected, so as long as that is left on STB/DVR then wife would not need to use the AVR remote at all.
Another thing with the setup I have cabled now is the Bluray, U-verse and streaming video all can be configured via TV settings for a different value of audio delay to try and achieve good lip sync for all these sources. I’ve noticed I need a different audio delay for the U-verse signal as compared to streaming Amazon Prime video, and I assume the same will be true for the Bluray. If I plug the U-Verse into the AVR instead of the One-Connect Mini, then both the BluRay and the U-verse sources will come into the TV thru the AVR on the same HDMI port, so I guess to configure different audio delay values I’d have to configure that in the AVR settings for the BluRay and the U-Verse, and set the audio delay for the TV’s Smart Hub sources in the TV settings.
Fire away please! Bad lip sync is so annoying that I'd consider almost any configuration that would make it easier to achieve good lip sync for all sources!
Uverse... I have mine connected to HDMI 3 on the OCM. This helps when using a logitech Harmony remote.
You must have not set up the tv's remote to control the uverse box. The Tv's remote will control power, channels, menu, etc... It uses IR to do so.
To set this up, do the following on the TV: Menu -> System -> Universal Remote Setup and then follow the on screen prompts.
Keeping the Uverse box on the OCM seemed to help with LipSync issues vs running it through my AVR. You have to adjust it on the AVR AND/or the tv. both have settings for it. Sometimes it's still off a bit though. usually minor.
Last, if you disable ARC and HDMI-CEC, then move the uverse box back to the AVR AND use Optical for smart apps, you will improve overall control as you'll use your AVR for all the switching. However, it will have to be done "manually" instead of CEC doing the switching for you. The TV remote can also control SOME functions of the AVR if you tell the remote to do so just like above with the Uverse box. The downside for this is that when you switch to smart apps, you have to also switch your AVR to whatever input you assign to the optical.
For me, I like ARC and CEC. works really well, even with the annoying auto-switch to tv/cd at power on.
The best option might be to buy a harmony and disable ARC, but using the harmony with smart apps sucks, so you will probably find yourself switching out a bit.