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I took these pics in a very dark room on a 65JS8500 with the Smart LED feature/dimming control ON and one picture of it OFF. I think this is a great set, the backlight is on 8 which measured about 45ft-L in my room.


SMART LED ON




SMART LED OFF


Got my set last night and it's great. I need to do a little more tweaking on the blacks, but my favorite thing is how black the bars at the top and bottom of the screen are, I don't even notice them! I'm sure someone has posted recommended settings on here, I'll do some digging.
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For those of you who prefer the Standard Mode, here's my calibrated Standard Mode settings:

TV: 65 inch JS8500 Panel: THO1; Colorimeter: Colormunki Display, Software: HCFR, Discs: AVS 709, Disney WoW

Backlight 9 (39 ftL) * Ideally, it should be between 35-40 ftL if you have a light controlled room, I left mine at Backlight of 9 (43ftL) because I have a couple windows at the front and side of the TV. Backlight of 7 is only about 34 ftL
Contrast 88 * see note below
Brightness 45
Sharpness 20 (preference) * It should be no more than 25% to avoid any artifacts.
Color 50
Tint 50/50

White Balance
2 Pt
R offset 1
G offset 3
B offset -6
R gain 7
G gain -1
B gain 7

Color Space: Custom *at 100% saturation
Red 39 6 2
Green 28 49 6
Blue 1 6 45
Yellow 53 46 5
Cyan 24 57 64
Magenta 31 10 60

Gamma: -1
Color Tone: Warm 2 * see note below
Auto Motion Plus: Clear (preference) * Although I prefer Standard (soap opera effect)
Smart LED: Standard
Cinema Black: On
All other dynamic settings are off

Some notes on my calibration process:
-First of all, Standard Mode (with color tone at Standard) has a very cool color temperature at >10000K, a lot more than the industry standard of D65 or 6500K. >9000K (cool) gives all colors a bluish tint, while <3500K (warm) gives all colors a reddish tint.
-This time around, I had to adjust greyscale by using BOTH the Contrast control and 2 pt white balance due to the lack of 10 pt white balance. But I was still able to bring Delta E’s down from 20.93 to 1.14 across the greyscale by just using the 2 controls.
-For color calibration, I was surprised that I was able to get better color numbers with Standard Mode despite starting with a Delta E of 43.48! I was able to cut it down to just 0.44 (much lower than my Movie Mode Color Delta E of 0.54. I guess adjusting the Color Tone and the white balance first helped a bit.
-After calibrating Standard Mode, it now looks more like my Movie Mode, which makes sense as this was the reason for the calibration: to achieve proper white balance and accurate colors according to the D65 standard, which all movies and tv shows are intended to be watched or seen.
-If I have to choose between the 2 modes though, I'd still prefer Movie Mode over Standard Mode due to the better greyscale.

my JS8500 movie calibration settings as of 8/8/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post34495410
my JS8500 standard calibration settings as of 6/18/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post35124130

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For those of you who prefer the Standard Mode, here's my calibrated Standard Mode settings:

-If I have to choose between the 2 modes though, I'd still prefer Movie Mode over Standard Mode due to the better greyscale.

Thanks for taking the time to calibrate and post your results prme19! I'm currently using your Movie Mode settings on my tv and it looks awesome. I thought about trying your settings on Standard Mode, too, just to give me another choice. I'm assuming all your changes are saved, so you can toggle through the different modes without losing the previously adjusted settings? Thanks again!
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The wife has approved wall mounting our 65JS850D. Looks like many on this thread have done so, but there are so many to choose from.

If I could get some recommendations on a standard tilt mount for the 65", I would be very appreciative.

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Thanks for taking the time to calibrate and post your results prme19! I'm currently using your Movie Mode settings on my tv and it looks awesome. I thought about trying your settings on Standard Mode, too, just to give me another choice. I'm assuming all your changes are saved, so you can toggle through the different modes without losing the previously adjusted settings? Thanks again!
Yes, you can switch between the 2 modes without having to adjust the settings again.
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my JS8500 movie calibration settings as of 8/8/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post34495410
my JS8500 standard calibration settings as of 6/18/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post35124130
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How fast of Internet do you need for the Ultraflix?

I have a connection of 25 Mbps, and it stutters sometimes. I do feel the quality of 4K is better, and less compressed on Ultraflix than on Netflix.
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Any impressions of the new HDR DL's movie on the JS8500? Would love to hear and see some pics of how real HDR looks on these in people's home.
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I do not see Ultrflix as an available app....do I need to do something special?also not seeing any uhd choices on go...
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Any impressions of the new HDR DL's movie on the JS8500? Would love to hear and see some pics of how real HDR looks on these in people's home.

Downloaded exodus hdr laSt night for my hu9000 with sek3500. Full thoughts and a couple pix over in that thread. Looks excellent. Will look better on 2015 sets.
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Hey Guys, my 55" JS8500 tv has just notified me that a new firmware update is available. I didn't update yet as I still have flashbacks of the nightmare that was the last firmware update I ever did on my great F9000.

Best Buy replaced it with the JS8500 after 2 weeks of attempting to fix my bricked F9000! And gave me a 5 year warranty to replace the one I had until 2018. Now I wait until others say it's good, LOL, before updating. Never want to go through that again.

Love the JS900 after tweaking the settings. It also seems that the tv gets better after settling in for awhile.

Anybody else notice that on their tv? Cheers.

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Hey Guys, my 55" JS8500 tv has just notified me that a new firmware update is available. I didn't update yet as I still have flashbacks of the nightmare that was the last firmware update I ever did on my great F9000.

Best Buy replaced it with the JS8500 after 2 weeks of attempting to fix my bricked F9000! And gave me a 5 year warranty to replace the one I had until 2018. Now I wait until others say it's good, LOL, before updating. Never want to go through that again.

Love the JS900 after tweaking the settings. It also seems that the tv gets better after settling in for awhile.

Anybody else notice that on their tv? Cheers.

I just updated my tv to firmware 1218. No issues so far.
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I do not see Ultrflix as an available app....do I need to do something special?also not seeing any uhd choices on go...

I found the Ultraflix app by doing a "Search" for it using the magnifying glass symbol in the upper right hand corner of the screen. I had the access code sent via text messaging to my cell phone, because it took quite a bit longer to get the code through email.
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Downloaded exodus hdr laSt night for my hu9000 with sek3500. Full thoughts and a couple pix over in that thread. Looks excellent. Will look better on 2015 sets.
I'm trying to download both Exodus and Kingsman UHD with HDR, to compare with the bluray versions. But I couldn't get MGO to detect my UHD video pack. Does it have to connect directly to the TV? I have it connected to the OCB mini. Also, how big are the files and how long did it take you to download a movie? And what's your internet speed? Any initial thoughts/comments on HDR? thanks

my JS8500 movie calibration settings as of 8/8/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post34495410
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I'm trying to download both Exodus and Kingsman UHD with HDR, to compare with the bluray versions. But I couldn't get MGO to detect my UHD video pack. Does it have to connect directly to the TV? I have it connected to the OCB mini. Also, how big are the files and how long did it take you to download a movie? And what's your internet speed? Any initial thoughts/comments on HDR? thanks
Only download 1 at a time. Exodus is 100 gigs. My internet is only 20gbps. Took 10 hours to download.

Uhd pack should be plugged into usb 3.0.
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Only download 1 at a time. Exodus is 100 gigs. My internet is only 20gbps. Took 10 hours to download.

Uhd pack should be plugged into usb 3.0.
100 gigs?! Oh my, that's gonna take forever. Do you have to leave the TV on? Or can it download in the background while the TV is off or using the Picture Off option?

my JS8500 movie calibration settings as of 8/8/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post34495410
my JS8500 standard calibration settings as of 6/18/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post35124130
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I found the Ultraflix app by doing a "Search" for it using the magnifying glass symbol in the upper right hand corner of the screen. I had the access code sent via text messaging to my cell phone, because it took quite a bit longer to get the code through email.
Thanks for the help...
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100 gigs?! Oh my, that's gonna take forever. Do you have to leave the TV on? Or can it download in the background while the TV is off or using the Picture Off option?

I left my tv on espn over night. And yea, massive file lol but its beautiful. The depth of the picture I've never seen on any blu ray. I will definitely purchase more
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Has anyone been able to find Plex anywhere in the app store on the TV? It shows up as being compatible with the JS8500 on the Samsung website but I'm not seeing it on the TV itself.
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Has anyone been able to find Plex anywhere in the app store on the TV? It shows up as being compatible with the JS8500 on the Samsung website but I'm not seeing it on the TV itself.
Plex is built in, when you hit Source on your remote you should see your Plex Server as one of the Sources.
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Only download 1 at a time. Exodus is 100 gigs. My internet is only 20gbps. Took 10 hours to download.

Uhd pack should be plugged into usb 3.0.

Ouch, I have a 105MBPS connection but I'm on comcast and they have a 300GB cap here. I'm going to have to choose certain months to go over the cap just to DL the HDR movies when i get my JS8500
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Thank you, Art. I guess I'm just left wondering about Samsung (direct's) exchange policy. Seems a little vague on their site, and if I have to send a panel back (possibly even a few times) before getting one with as few flaws as possible, I'd of course prefer to avoid return shipping/restocking charges.

Cleveland Plasma has a very good offer, which I highly recommend, though it was not as enticing as the price from Samsung direct, unfortunately.


Curiosity got the best of me and I found myself looking at Samsung's price for other models. Looks like I can get the 65JS9000 for $500 more, and the 65JS9500 for $1500 more. Though I'm really not fond of the curve on the 9 series panels, I admit that the price is tempting, but I wonder if the extra features are truly worth even the extra $500 premium.

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My JS8500 is going to be delivered tomorrow afternoon! I have seen a variety of calibration settings on this thread. Based upon your experience with the TV, which one has provided the best picture? Or, which do you guys recommend that have tried a few out? Thanks in advance!
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My JS8500 is going to be delivered tomorrow afternoon! I have seen a variety of calibration settings on this thread. Based upon your experience with the TV, which one has provided the best picture? Or, which do you guys recommend that have tried a few out? Thanks in advance!
I used ERuiz's settings, but have tweaked them for my bright room family room vs. his dark home theater room. I finally took the time to input his 10pt white balance settings last night and that really fixed up skin tones. I'm still working out final tweaks as I spend time watching the TV. So, you can find my settings about 10 pages back as I recall. You need to grab ERuiz's for the color space and white balance settings. I'll be posting an update in the next few days once I've got things locked in.
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Samsung is offering the 48" JS8500 with the HW-J450 soundbar for $1499 until 4th of July. $1999 for the 48" JS9000.
That looks like a tempting deal.
What do you guys think ? Will there be a better deal later on this year ?
Is the soundbar worth it ?
Should I get the js8500 or step up to the JS900 with octacore and the full OCB ?

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Samsung is offering the JS8500 with the HW-J450 soundbar for $1499 until 4th of July. $1999 for the JS9000.
That looks like a tempting deal.
What do you guys think ? Will there be a better deal later on this year ?
Is the soundbar worth it ?
Should I get the js8500 or step up to the JS900 with octacore and the full OCB ?

cheers
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at that size for the 48" I would go Js8500 unless you are using it as a gaming monitor, as the curve will not do much at the 48" inch size ( like I sadi you are using it mainly for gaming
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I'm trying to download both Exodus and Kingsman UHD with HDR, to compare with the bluray versions. But I couldn't get MGO to detect my UHD video pack. Does it have to connect directly to the TV? I have it connected to the OCB mini. Also, how big are the files and how long did it take you to download a movie? And what's your internet speed? Any initial thoughts/comments on HDR? thanks
FYI:

Uhd downloads are temporarily down. My hdr exodus won't play now. I emailed tech support about the issue and asked when it'll be back up.
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Samsung is offering the JS8500 with the HW-J450 soundbar for $1499 until 4th of July. $1999 for the JS9000.
That looks like a tempting deal.
What do you guys think ? Will there be a better deal later on this year ?
Is the soundbar worth it ?
Should I get the js8500 or step up to the JS900 with octacore and the full OCB ?

cheers
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If I'm not mistaken the 55 inch has been always $1999 and 65 inch is still $2999 so maybe they will have price cut soon.
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Uhd downloads are temporarily down. My hdr exodus won't play now. I emailed tech support about the issue and asked when it'll be back up.
Thanks for the heads up. Hoping they can get it back up tonight. But I'm having a problem with the MGO app. It's not detecting my Samsung UHD video pack. Every time I press download on any movie, it's asking me to connect it but it's already connected directly to the tv now. Am I doing something wrong?

my JS8500 movie calibration settings as of 8/8/15 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post34495410
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Thanks for the heads up. Hoping they can get it back up tonight. But I'm having a problem with the MGO app. It's not detecting my Samsung UHD video pack. Every time I press download on any movie, it's asking me to connect it but it's already connected directly to the tv now. Am I doing something wrong?

I wonder if while uhd downloads are down, that all downloading is disabled.

But my exodus hdr video will still play, but only the HD version. Haven't checked in a couple hours tho. Keep checking for the uhd hdr selection to reappear and let me know if it does
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Thanks for the heads up. Hoping they can get it back up tonight. But I'm having a problem with the MGO app. It's not detecting my Samsung UHD video pack. Every time I press download on any movie, it's asking me to connect it but it's already connected directly to the tv now. Am I doing something wrong?

I wonder if while uhd downloads are down, that all downloading is disabled.

But my exodus hdr video will still play, but only the HD version. Haven't checked in a couple hours tho. Keep checking for the uhd hdr selection to reappear and let me know if it does
This is the message I'm getting when I click Buy $29.99+ on the right side. I can access contents on my uhd video pack directly, so the problem is not with the TV port/connection. This already happened earlier when I tried to download the movie, even before you mentioned that they were down. Unless they were already down before. I'll wait after a few hours to try again.
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