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Hey everyone, how do so many people have the new kit when Samsung tells me it hasnt been released yet? Preordered mine on May 10th.
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When I buy the OCB, does my extended warranty on my original TV purchase cover it also or do I also need a new extended warranty on the new OCB?
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It's a separate product. I'm not going to answer 100% because I have no idea what warranty you bought or what its terms say, but would you expect it to cover a wall mount too? Or a faulty hdmi cable you bought? You bought a warranty on the tv, it's highly unlikely it includes the OCB as you're now expecting the warranty provider to increase the value of your TV by $400 without giving them any extra money. Sadly, not the way the world works.
You know, not to be THAT GUY - but his question really isn't that off...

The 3500 is merely a replacement for the original that came with the TV - it is not an extra that didn't originally come with the TV as a wall mount or HDMI cable would be.

So, it really isn't an off question.

However, yeah, I am sure it is not covered.

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You know, not to be THAT GUY - but his question really isn't that off...

The 3500 is merely a replacement for the original that came with the TV - it is not an extra that didn't originally come with the TV as a wall mount or HDMI cable would be.

So, it really isn't an off question.

However, yeah, I am sure it is not covered.
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You know, not to be THAT GUY - but his question really isn't that off...

The 3500 is merely a replacement for the original that came with the TV - it is not an extra that didn't originally come with the TV as a wall mount or HDMI cable would be.

So, it really isn't an off question.

However, yeah, I am sure it is not covered.
I wasn't suggesting it's a stupid question. But think of it this way. Your extended warranty can't cover both the original chips and the ocb. That's more than you ever bought a warranty for. The fact that you've decided not to use parts of the product you bought a warranty for doesn't mean you get to get a free warranty on something else. Since you disagree with my wall mount analogy, here's a better one if I "upgrade" my tv's audio by adding a Samsung soundbar, would the warranty apply? Of course not. But like the ocb, all I did was replace the built in sound processing and output with another Samsung device. How come it's not covered??? Fact of the matter is warranty companies can be a pain in the butt to begin with. I don't want to be trying to explain to some CSR who is reading off a script what an OCB is and why it should be covered in the event it breaks.
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How is B and H? I ordered (pre ordered) the 3500 from them to ship to Canada....should I be worried or are they good?
I got mine from B&H and received it the next business day here in NY. When you go to their web site they show you a map and the number of days shipping will take. If you order before 2pm EST the order goes out the same business day.
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Question SEK-3500U Features, Upgrades & Improvements

What new features, upgrades, and improvements does the SEK-3500U bring to the table?

That would depend on what Samsung TV model you have. The attached thumbnail picture provides a spreadsheet containing a Summary of Features and Improvements.

Although most of these will benefit all owners, not all items in the Video category will apply. For example, one that comes up often is Cinema Black. This is a feature available on the HU9000 flagship model which is reliant on the number of dimming zones the panel contains.

Note: Samsung has been clear that their Future-Proof claim was applicable to changes possible through the Evo Kit Upgrade but not those that would require replacement of the panel itself.
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Hi,
As I'm still waiting for my OCB to arrive, I have a couple of questions for those who have already installed the OCB.
Right now, I go from my TV (arc) via HDMI to my Denon, all of my sources go into my Denon via HDMI. Once I get the OCB, I know I hook up the OCB to my TV. Then from OCB arc to my Denon. Questions that I have is...do all my sources still go into my Denon like they are now, or do they need to go into OCB? Hopefully this makes sense, any help would be appreciated.

Thank you, Jerry
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HMMM. SEK-3500u made in Taiwan - man, you're closer than I am over here in Ontario!
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Hi,
As I'm still waiting for my OCB to arrive, I have a couple of questions for those who have already installed the OCB.
Right now, I go from my TV (arc) via HDMI to my Denon, all of my sources go into my Denon via HDMI. Once I get the OCB, I know I hook up the OCB to my TV. Then from OCB arc to my Denon. Questions that I have is...do all my sources still go into my Denon like they are now, or do they need to go into OCB? Hopefully this makes sense, any help would be appreciated.

Thank you, Jerry
All of your sources will still go to your Denon since the OCB for all intents and purposes in just the inputs of your television in a box that also has some other duties. I would suggest adding an optical (SPIDF) cable from the OCB to your Denon if possible because I know some have had issues in the past with audio over the ARC connection. I'm sure others will chime in as well. We do know that the SEK-3500 allows 5.1 passthrough over HDMI correctly now so it may be redundant, but I like having a backup. Historically I have preferred the sound utilizing an optical connection, but that's just my preference.

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A brute for punishment! Things must be boring over in BC, especially since Spring came so early!
HMMM. SEK-3500u made in Taiwan - man, you're closer than I am over here in Ontario!
LMAO. I'm getting tired of seeing the same questions being asked over and over. Figure with everyone ready to jump out in front of the next UPS or FedEx truck that drives by in hopes that it is their brand spanking new SEK-3500U, my life is going to get crazy if they all arrive at once!


Time to stick some Prosecco in the fridge and get it nice and cold and then chase it down with some Perroni's I have on ice.

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Good afternoon,

As you can see, to make peoples lives even easier I have begun compiling a list of Frequently Asked Questions that come up often regarding the SEK-3500U and will update the FAQ as I see fit.

Please note, the purpose of this post is NOT to replace the spreadsheet or to rehash ongoing discussions in this or other threads.

To save me time on this work in progress and to make sure I am as accurate as possible, I will be extracting information directly from original posts wherever possible. If you have any ideas of what else you'd like to see in the FAQ, suggestions are welcome... but don't be surprised if you are then tasked to research and compile the information.


i have added a link to the FAQ in my signature.

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Hi,
As I'm still waiting for my OCB to arrive, I have a couple of questions for those who have already installed the OCB.
Right now, I go from my TV (arc) via HDMI to my Denon, all of my sources go into my Denon via HDMI. Once I get the OCB, I know I hook up the OCB to my TV. Then from OCB arc to my Denon. Questions that I have is...do all my sources still go into my Denon like they are now, or do they need to go into OCB? Hopefully this makes sense, any help would be appreciated.

Thank you, Jerry
Yes everything hooks up the same. Are you using a Universal remote to control everything? If you are just be fore warned that switching to HDMI 4 (ARC Port on SEK-3500) doesn't seem to work with Universal Remotes. You can easily switch with the Samsung remote though.

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Yes everything hooks up the same. Are you using a Universal remote to control everything? If you are just be fore warned that switching to HDMI 4 (ARC Port on SEK-3500) doesn't seem to work with Universal Remotes. You can easily switch with the Samsung remote though.
Thanks. Yes I'm using a Harmony One. Hoping they'll come out with a fix for that.
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All of your sources will still go to your Denon since the OCB for all intents and purposes in just the inputs of your television in a box that also has some other duties. I would suggest adding an optical (SPIDF) cable from the OCB to your Denon if possible because I know some have had issues in the past with audio over the ARC connection. I'm sure others will chime in as well. We do know that the SEK-3500 allows 5.1 passthrough over HDMI correctly now so it may be redundant, but I like having a backup. Historically I have preferred the sound utilizing an optical connection, but that's just my preference.
Thank you!!
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Thanks. Yes I'm using a Harmony One. Hoping they'll come out with a fix for that.
A handful of us are over on the Logitech Forums pestering their support about it. In the meantime I have created some sequences that I added to some activities using the Source command.
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A handful of us are over on the Logitech Forums pestering their support about it. In the meantime I have created some sequences that I added to some activities using the Source command.
Great, I'll check it out.
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I got mine from B&H and received it the next business day here in NY. When you go to their web site they show you a map and the number of days shipping will take. If you order before 2pm EST the order goes out the same business day.
I ordered mine from Tiger Direct on Sunday. Bothered them every day until i got a woman who was helpful and checked. She said their website is slow to update,

Anyway, I ordered it overnight shipping on Sunday night and received it on Weds, at 10:00 AM.

Nothing amazing about the new OCB for my 78HU9000. A bit better color, contrast, shadow detail, plus the Tizen and the new remote. An incremental improvement all around, but don't expect a whole new TV. If fact, I dislike the new remote, and use the old stick remote that came with TV last year, Don't particularly like Tiizen, either.
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All of your sources will still go to your Denon since the OCB for all intents and purposes in just the inputs of your television in a box that also has some other duties. I would suggest adding an optical (SPIDF) cable from the OCB to your Denon if possible because I know some have had issues in the past with audio over the ARC connection. I'm sure others will chime in as well. We do know that the SEK-3500 allows 5.1 passthrough over HDMI correctly now so it may be redundant, but I like having a backup. Historically I have preferred the sound utilizing an optical connection, but that's just my preference.

Can't say that I hear any difference in sound (there should not be any), but ARC tends to have problems and optical doesn't have any other than the running the initial additional cable.


Additionally, some prefer to go direct to the OCB because they can input different settings for each component. However, you won't get lossless audio codecs unless you go via the AVR with your Blu-ray.
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Motion setting difference

Unless my SEK-2500 notes are incorrect or not updated, I have noted that my previous Auto Motion Plus settings under Picture Options used to be Custom / Blur Reduction - 10 / Judder - 0 / LED Clear Motion - ON .


With the SEK-3500 and the same settings above LED Clear Motion is greyed out and Not Available.


Is there something else I may have set the makes it N/A or has it been N/A from a previous firmware change?


On a side note: I noticed that if I change Auto Motion Plus to Smooth Netflix 4K motion is better but YouTube HD videos can get messed up and are better with my custom settings mentioned above. I also have noticed that a few HD programs on YouTube are encoded as VP9 and I thought VP9 was only for 4K material.

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I ordered from Sparco 5.20.2015...

...order is still processing, and "availability eta" keeps getting pushed back. Anyone had any recent luck with them. I am tempted to kill my order and try B&H...
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I ordered from Sparco 5.20.2015...

...order is still processing, and "availability eta" keeps getting pushed back. Anyone had any recent luck with them. I am tempted to kill my order and try B&H...
Same situation for me. Still on backorder. I will give them one more week.
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Unless my SEK-2500 notes are incorrect or not updated, I have noted that my previous Auto Motion Plus settings under Picture Options used to be Custom / Blur Reduction - 10 / Judder - 0 / LED Clear Motion - ON .


With the SEK-3500 and the same settings above LED Clear Motion is greyed out and Not Available.


Is there something else I may have set the makes it N/A or has it been N/A from a previous firmware change?


On a side note: I noticed that if I change Auto Motion Plus to Smooth Netflix 4K motion is better but YouTube HD videos can get messed up and are better with my custom settings mentioned above. I also have noticed that a few HD programs on YouTube are encoded as VP9 and I thought VP9 was only for 4K material.

On sek-2500, if you turn LED Clear Motion "on", blur reduction and judder are "greyed out".


I personally use, 10/0/off.
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By the way, thanks to the first contributors to the SEK-3500U FAQ.

@sikclown , if the step by step instructions you prepared are good enough to walk @ahro through the process of hooking up his new SEK-3500U then they should be good enough for all of us. I know I will be using them instead of the emoji styled international installation guide!


And thankfully @priuscat was able to post the measurements for the cable that goes between the SEK-3500U and the Evo Kit input on the back of the TV so we didn't have to see that question again..... and again... and again. For those of us with the HU9000, HU8700, and F9000, the One Connect Box is old hat but for many of the members here with models such as the HU8550 this is new ground. Gawd help you if the measurement is off by a hair!


And just as a heads up, people that plan on using every single inch of that 9 feet 9 1/2 inches should allow some tolerance for rounding corners since the OCB cord is about the same circumference as the power cord.
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Unless my SEK-2500 notes are incorrect or not updated, I have noted that my previous Auto Motion Plus settings under Picture Options used to be Custom / Blur Reduction - 10 / Judder - 0 / LED Clear Motion - ON .


With the SEK-3500 and the same settings above LED Clear Motion is greyed out and Not Available.


Is there something else I may have set the makes it N/A or has it been N/A from a previous firmware change?


On a side note: I noticed that if I change Auto Motion Plus to Smooth Netflix 4K motion is better but YouTube HD videos can get messed up and are better with my custom settings mentioned above. I also have noticed that a few HD programs on YouTube are encoded as VP9 and I thought VP9 was only for 4K material.
If you are using Natural Picture mode LED Clear Motion stays greyed out.
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Unless my SEK-2500 notes are incorrect or not updated, I have noted that my previous Auto Motion Plus settings under Picture Options used to be Custom / Blur Reduction - 10 / Judder - 0 / LED Clear Motion - ON .


With the SEK-3500 and the same settings above LED Clear Motion is greyed out and Not Available.


Is there something else I may have set the makes it N/A or has it been N/A from a previous firmware change?


On a side note: I noticed that if I change Auto Motion Plus to Smooth Netflix 4K motion is better but YouTube HD videos can get messed up and are better with my custom settings mentioned above. I also have noticed that a few HD programs on YouTube are encoded as VP9 and I thought VP9 was only for 4K material.
Short answer: No.

The VP9 codec must be supported by the browser in order to view 4k material on YouTube in it's least compressed form but that does't mean you can't view other resolutions such as 1080p encoded in VP9.

YouTube encodes all their videos using VP9 upto and including 2160p (where applicable) along with the antiquated H.264 which allowed us to view downressed compressed YouTube videos prior to the SEK-3500U upgrade..

Long answer: Search the web for more info
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Short answer: No.

The VP9 codec MUST be supported by the browser in order to view 4k material on YouTube...

Long answer: Search the web for more info
Maybe you should add this to the FAQ? LOL...sorry couldn't resist. Once again, thanks for your efforts!
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SEK3500 glitches

Well, I'm finding out what else doesn't work on my new SEK3500U/ZA. like I said earlier, when I have my Roku or my Popcornhour networked media tank or my two windows media center extenders connected to any HDMI port the result is either a green background (like when one of the RED/GREEN/BLUE rca connectors is not connected using Component mode) or the video flashes on and off ( windows media center menu visible then alternately a black screen).

The other issues I have noticed is YouTube. YouTube plays normal on my SEK2500U/ZA with a 25707 KBPS rate while using the SEK3500U/ZA the video's never play, they just are "loading" with a 15 KBPS connection rate. tried to do a speed test on the 3500 and the page never finished downloading. Netflix plays fine, shows 2160> I'm wondering if Sikclown's predictions on the mainboard is the problem (when 1240.3 caused the TV to power cycle, and fixing it for me was connecting the original OCB then re-connecting the 2500)

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Maybe you should add this to the FAQ? LOL...sorry couldn't resist. Once again, thanks for your efforts!
LOL. As Dana Carvey used to say on Saturday Night Live while impersonating George W. Bush. "Not gonna do it -- wouldn't be prudent -- not at this juncture.".

Ironically here is a Clip on YouTube (non 4K):

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SEK-3500 Motion Settings

If anyone experiments with the settings and they improve motion on the SEK-3500 can you post the new settings. I am finding that different settings may make one thing better, but other things worse (such as 4K on YouTube versus HD on YouTube). For now I am sticking with the settings I have always used and if I find 4K material to have motion issues I will try the Smooth setting for that program or movie which did improve a 4K series on Netflix.

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atodzia I see you have a F9000 series TV humour me, did you replace the main board or do you have the original main board, when the 1240.3 fiasco happened?

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