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I looked at one of the sites showing the box and the cable. The cable looks like the one they are using for the Q9F set.

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I looked at one of the sites showing the box and the cable. The cable looks like the one they are using for the Q9F set.
But does the OCB for the Q9F also look the same ?

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The OCB for the Q9F looks like the SEK but it's probably 2x the height because the power supply is in the OCB. I also noticed that the picture of the 4500 doesn't show any hdmi or USB ports. Maybe it's just preliminary but the cable is what caught my eye. I guess we will have to wait an see once its available.

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There is a bit more on the no-page.
https://www.samsung.com/no/tv-access...00/SEK-4500XC/
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Maybe this kit will upgrade everything on our sets, remote, operating system, etc., because now that I can see the remote, it is the same as the Q9F and the picture of the menus are the same as well. I don't know what the KS9800 remote looks like but i'm 100% positive looks like the new remote.

The only thing i noticed was the web site shows a flat and not a curved panel. Weren't all the sets with the SEK3500 curved?

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It will most likely just give you current Tizen version with all its pros and cons. And of course some members here will definitely see at least 150% better picture quality which will then get improved by another 35% with each and every new fw update.
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Maybe this kit will upgrade everything on our sets, remote, operating system, etc., because now that I can see the remote, it is the same as the Q9F and the picture of the menus are the same as well. I don't know what the KS9800 remote looks like but i'm 100% positive looks like the new remote.

The only thing i noticed was the web site shows a flat and not a curved panel. Weren't all the sets with the SEK3500 curved?
Several of the TV models capable of using the SEK-3500 are flat, not curved.

I'm not sure any of them will be compatible with the new thin cable.
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There is a bit more on the no-page.
https://www.samsung.com/no/tv-access...00/SEK-4500XC/
Some nice pretty pictures, but still no meat and potatoes specs as to what it's going to give us re improvements and upgrades.

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There is a bit more on the no-page.
https://www.samsung.com/no/tv-access...00/SEK-4500XC/

That looks like the Q8 remote, the Q9 remote is silver.

Also, that is the tizen version on the 2018 Qleds.

I'm curious if the picture controls are also changed like in the newer tvs. Hope not, because the older picture controls were better.
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Good news, finally got ahold of FlatpanelsHD and gave him all of the information. he also found some links to the sek4500 in Spain etc. He's reached out to Samsung for comments/info so looks like we'll get an article soon. He wrote an article a year or 2 back about Samsung not upholding the promise at all for the JS sets so it's a good follow up for him at least.



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Samsung Launches upgrade box:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1435569820


Samsung: No new Evolution Kit in 2016:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1452218907


Customer gets full refund for TV after Samsung broke Evolution Kit promise

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1483114260
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Good news, finally got ahold of FlatpanelsHD and gave him all of the information. he also found some links to the sek4500 in Spain etc. He's reached out to Samsung for comments/info so looks like we'll get an article soon. He wrote an article a year or 2 back about Samsung not upholding the promise at all for the JS sets so it's a good follow up for him at least.



here are his previous articles:


Samsung Launches upgrade box:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1435569820


Samsung: No new Evolution Kit in 2016:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1452218907


Customer gets full refund for TV after Samsung broke Evolution Kit promise

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1483114260
Wow crazy that a new OCB is coming for Hu sets.. The Q9 OCB I think will be upgraded too. All processing is done in that one like our ole Sek units...
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Wow crazy that a new OCB is coming for Hu sets.. The Q9 OCB I think will be upgraded too. All processing is done in that one like our ole Sek units...
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Samsung has made ALOT of product mistakes over the past 3 years, and discontinuing their upgrade advertisement is near the top. So many people went with Samsung sets over Sony because of the upgrade promise and if they did that again it would surely help their dwindling sales. I fear this may be a last time thing to avoid lawsuits from the JS owners around the world. But who knows maybe now that samsung is back into the full size OCB business they'll start doing it again.
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Flatpanels has an article about the new SEK-4500. According to that it will have the latest Tizen, 'One Remote' and support SmartThings platform and the price will be €299. It will be launced soon. The rest of the article covers what we already have seen in this thread.

https://www.flatpanels.dk/nyhed.php?...&id=1537437409

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Flatpanels has an article about the new SEK-4500. According to that it will have the latest Tizen, 'One Remote' and support SmartThings platform and the price will be €299. It will be launced soon. The rest of the article covers what we already have seen in this thread.

https://www.flatpanels.dk/nyhed.php?...&id=1537437409

We should probebly start a dedicated SEK-4500 thread.
Try it in English: (Dam, KS NOT listed!)

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1537441037

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Try it in English: (Dam, KS NOT listed!)

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1537441037
Thanks for the English link. I see his article is getting some questions including those by some guy name “ray”. Hmm, I wonder who that could be.

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...We should probebly start a dedicated SEK-4500 thread.
I would agree but at this point here is all we really know:

  • includes the ‘2018 Smart Hub’, meaning Samsung’s latest version of its Tizen operating system and user interface
  • the box is compatible with the company’s SmartThings platform
  • comes bundled with the new ‘One Remote’.
  • it has a quad-core processor... so we went from quad-core... to octa-core... and back to quad-core
  • supports mirroring from/to a smartphone
  • costs 299 Euros (about the equivalent of $350 USD)
Further to the 5th bullet, my recollection is that at one time Samsung advertised that the HU could mirror in both directions but “due to copyright issues” removed that functionality. And unless you own an android device, the SEK-3500 only allows mirroring using an android so no support for iPhones, iPads, and the like.

So for me, from what has been published so far, it is just a little window dressing with a new interface that repositions stuff on the screen, a new remote (which I may or may not prefer over my existing remote) and something called SmartThings which is just another spin on Home Kit which I prefer.

As for Smart TVs, give me an Apple TV 4K any day of the week.

The more burning questions are more technical in nature and not currently included in the technical specifications on Samsungs website or flatpanels.com like:

  • does it support HDR10+
  • does it support HLG
  • does it support VP9 Prolfile 2 to obtain 4K HDR from YouTube
  • does it upgrade the HDMI ports to 2.0b
  • does it do Dolby Digital Plus (DD+) / Atmos over HDMI ARC which some competitors have been doing since 2016
  • does it include the One Invisible Connection™
  • does it include 2018 features like Information hub to “get useful information such as weather, outdoor temperature and major headlines displayed on the screen”
  • does it support “Bixby Voice”
As we all know a 2018 Evo Kit is not going to drop a new panel or all related features into our TVs (anymore than the HU8550’s received all the features of the flagship HU9000 with the SEK-3500 or Quantum dots not introduced until the 2015 JS series) but I would expect it to bring 2018 ‘compatible’ features to our TVs possible through an Evo Kit upgrade depending on our model.

Here is a review that may give us some insight..

Review: Samsung Q9FN

...which indicates that HDR10 (Static MetaData), HDR10+ (Dynamic MetaData), and HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) are supported as well as VP9-2 and HDMI 2.0b but please read it with a grain of salt until we know for sure.
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What!? No HU8200 (curved) / HU7500 (flat) compatibility!?
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I'd ask if it supports Dolby Vision, but it's a Samsung...
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SEK-4500 swap out is only for those sets having external electronic OCBs.
Basic HDMI switch box OCBs will not be eligible.

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SEK-4500 swap out is only for those sets having external electronic OCBs.
Basic HDMI switch box OCBs will not be eligible.
I'm not sure how it will connect to both HUxxxx and non UHD ES8000, ES7000, F8000, H8000 which have a slot in the back of the set for an evolution set to attach to.

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I'd ask if it supports Dolby Vision, but it's a Samsung...
You can ask if it supports HDR10+
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Flat panel report today - BUT!

Did someone forget the HU9000?

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...ionkit2018_jpg

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It lists the European models.

Yes, hu9000 I believe is hu8500 in Europe.
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Yes, hu9000 I believe is hu8500 in Europe.
I believe you are right and further to that at least a couple of the preliminary (sparse) reviews I have read do in fact mention the HU9000 like this one in the Italian edition of A/V Magazine that states...

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Di seguito l'elenco completo:

TV Full HD - ES8000, ES7000, F8000, H8000

TV UHD - S9, F9005, S9W, S9, S9B, HU9000, HU8700, HU8500, HU7200, HU7000, JS9500, JS9000
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Full HD TV - ES8000, ES7000, F8000, H8000

TV UHD - S9, F9005, S9W, S9, S9B, HU9000, HU8700, HU8500, HU7200, HU7000, JS9500, JS9000
Also since the HU7000 is listed above I would be pretty confident it will also work on the popular HU8550 as well.
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I just wish I knew if it was coming to the US or not. My wife is putting her foot down and I can't get a new TV in the living room until my HU8500 craps out. I have been eyeing the 3500 box on eBay but I'm hoping I can get the 4500 in the US instead!
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Maybe Samsung is catering to the European crowd because there were more lawsuits over there? NA ?

One definite improvement I'd like to see is the Ethernet Port is upgraded to a 1 GB one.

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Originally Posted by mdd13 View Post
is it coming to the US?
No official word.

See the post just one post above yours that begins:

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Originally Posted by suddenlyissoon View Post
I just wish I knew if it was coming to the US or not. My wife is putting her foot down and I can't get a new TV in the living room until my HU8500 craps out. I have been eyeing the 3500 box on eBay but I'm hoping I can get the 4500 in the US instead!
You can also refer to this article that was published 10 days ago and posted on this thread...

Samsung launches 2018 Evolution Kit following customer complaints

...that says in part...

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At the time of publication, FlatpanelsHD has not been able to obtain a full list of regions in which the 2018 Evolution Kit will be made available. SEK-4500 is currently confirmed for Spain, Norway, Denmark, and Finland. We are chasing details.
But I suspect that if/when we know that it’s coming and what it includes this site will become very active!
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