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post #23761 of 23804 Old 07-10-2019, 07:27 PM
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Hi, I didn't get the /ZA to work with my Dubai bought TV. I couldn't get the TV configuration menu to accept the box even after an EEPROM reset

The /XS is the one to get, I got it from Jacky's who are one of 3 service companies for Samsung in UAE. It was an Australian version they supplied.

If you want to go ahead with the EEROM reset then drop me a PM and we can chat on phone

Overall, although I am extremely happy with the improvement the 3500 gives, I paid 1150 AED for it and with hindsight I should have just bought a new TV. Things that annoy me are:

(1) After switching out of standby, you have to wait about a minute before you can switch source
(2) No optical out so I can't easily connect to my DAC
(3) Remote is awful, I ended up getting a basic black remote
(4) I can now see the patchy backlight illumination when I have a dark picture, never noticed it before but now that I have a better picture it becomes more apparent
oops meant to say no coaxial audio out , it has optical
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Here is the pic from the back, should it be compatible with my hu9000?

And also i live in dubai in the middle east, will it work?

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Hi, I never got my /ZA to successfully work with my Dubai TV, still have it here and your welcome to try it yourself

The correct one for a UAE bought TV is a /XS , I got it from the local dealer after much negotiation ! It was packaged up for Australian market , drop me a PM and we can chat
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Hi, I didn't get the /ZA to work with my Dubai bought TV. I couldn't get the TV configuration menu to accept the box even after an EEPROM reset

The /XS is the one to get, I got it from Jacky's who are one of 3 service companies for Samsung in UAE. It was an Australian version they supplied.

If you want to go ahead with the EEROM reset then drop me a PM and we can chat on phone

Overall, although I am extremely happy with the improvement the 3500 gives, I paid 1150 AED for it and with hindsight I should have just bought a new TV. Things that annoy me are:

(1) After switching out of standby, you have to wait about a minute before you can switch source
(2) No optical out so I can't easily connect to my DAC
(3) Remote is awful, I ended up getting a basic black remote
(4) I can now see the patchy backlight illumination when I have a dark picture, never noticed it before but now that I have a better picture it becomes more apparent
See if you can get a good price on a KS9800 - far superior to the HU9000.
HU9000 - 350 Nits HDR versus 1650 Nits HDR on the KS9800. Managed to get a great price on my KS9800, and haven't looked back. (HU9000 now in the wife's loft where she loves the colours on the Rupaul show, plus her cartoons.)
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...(Supposedly, the KS series is the last great TVs Samsung has made !)
But with one caveat, no 3D, if that matters to you (you would need to go back to the JS series for 3D).
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But with one caveat, no 3D, if that matters to you (you would need to go back to the JS series for 3D).
No problem - 3D on the HU9000 + SEK-3500U in the wife's loft, and 3D on the JU7100 in the basement. Wife watches 3D, I rarely do, so KS9800 in my room. (HU7250 + SEK-3500U not able to do 3D)

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Hello, I have a sek-3500 the same as the privacy terms and some menus are disabled, someone could provide some backup service menu
thanks you

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Hello, I have a sek-3500 the same does not download the privacy terms and some menus are disabled, someone could provide some menu backup service
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Hello, I have a sek-3500 the same does not download the privacy terms and some menus are disabled, someone could provide some menu backup service
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Does your network status pass or fail? Are you connecting to the Internet ?
Try # 1 Change IPS DNS settings to Manual and then change values to 8.8.8.8
Try # 2 Hub Reset
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Hello, I have a sek-3500 the same as the privacy terms and some menus are disabled, someone could provide some backup service menu
thanks you
It is not unusual for some menu items and Terms, Conditions, and Privacy Policies to be disabled in the TV menus

This could take a long time trying to answer your question when you leave us guessing exactly which “privacy terms and some menus are disabled” and how you have your equipment connected which can make a difference.

In my case even with my TV disconnected from the Network thumbnails 1, 2, and 3 demonstrate that all of the terms do appear on those menus except for the one called Viewing History Privacy Notice which could be explained because I am not signed in which isn’t required to access the Smart Hub as shown in thumbnail 4. Thus it is normal for the the one titled "Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy" shown at the bottom of the screen in thumbnail 4 to appear greyed out unless you are signed in.

If on the other hand you are referring to the collection of Privacy terms shown in thumbnail 2 and 3 then all I can think of is that you have never had your TV successfully connected to the internet so they haven’t downloaded or you haven’t enabled the Smart Hub and agreed to the terms (which I seem to recall was part of the install process or can be reactivated by using the Menu >> Smart Hub >> Reset Smart Hub option).

As you can see there are more than one Privacy terms options so it is important to tell us which one you are referring to because in some cases it is not unusual for items to be disabled.

As for “some menus” being disabled that may be by design just like all those options not appearing on thumbnail 4, again it is important to know exactly which ones. Besides those shown on thumbnail 4, see thumbnail 5 for another example where Sound Mode, Sound Effect, 3D Audio, and Sound Customizer are greyed out. That is because I don’t use the TV’s built-in speakers so those options aren’t applicable to those of us using an A/V Receiver.

You can also see on the same thumbnail that Broadcasting is disabled. That is because I am using a Set Top Box provided by my Cable Provider plugged into HDMI 1 to access broadcast TV. In order for this option to appear I would have to select my TV input which will provide me with a bunch of options to allow me access to my over-the-air (OTA) stations as shown in thumbnail 6 which demonstrates amongst other things how I am using that input to access my security cameras which are available via my buildings coax wiring connection. If you are using the TV input I would suggest downloading the User Manual and reading up on the section titled Viewing Digital Broadcast Information at a Glance.

This is not an exhaustive list of all the menu options that may or may not be greyed out depending on your configuration. If you need more information about a specific option I would suggest using the Search this Thread tool because with 23000+ posts on this thread I believe that every option has been discussed multiple times by now.

As for your question asking if “someone could provide some backup service menu”, if you are asking about service menus, we are not allowed to discuss this topic on these threads. Those menus should only be accessed by authorized support staff who know what they are doing to avoid “bricking” your TV. If on the other hand you are simply asking if there is some means to backup your menu settings unfortunately the short answer is “no” posted a couple of pages back in Post 23719 where if you read on you will see the definitive answer suggested writing them down or taking pictures.

If you believe that certain “privacy terms and some menus are disabled” but they shouldn’t be then I would suggest calling Samsung Support who can take over your TV via the Menu >> Support >> Remote Management option while you are on the phone with them.

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Note re the Service Menu:

A Factory Reset, in many cases does NOT affect the settings inside the Service Menu. Hence, not getting the SM back to the Original Factory settings!
Why it was cautioned, before making any changes, write down the settings, or take photos that you can refer to later. (Photos best because of so many settings.)

As Musician has strongly suggested, if you don't know what you're doing in the SM, or ASM, and have no one to guide you, best stay out!

(Even us so called experts sometimes also get into trouble - but 9 times out of 10, because of experience, have a way out.)
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Does your network status pass or fail? Are you connecting to the Internet ?
Try # 1 Change IPS DNS settings to Manual and then change values to 8.8.8.8
Try # 2 Hub Reset

certain I did the procedures manually, error code (999) network unstable


using service manual, I made some adjustments without success!




today I used the parameters of another tv, it returned to work, but I believe that outside the standard of the sek-3500
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certain I did the procedures manually, error code (999) network unstable

using service manual, I made some adjustments without success!

today I used the parameters of another tv, it returned to work, but I believe that outside the standard of the sek-3500
I regret spending my morning trying to answer your vague question where you made no mention that you had been messing around in the service menus (otherwise I wouldn't have bothered replying).

A tough and potentially costly lesson considering the scarcity and inflated prices where a used SEK-3500 can fetch several times the price it did when it came out in 2015 but as a member since 2017 if you have been reading this particular thread you should be well aware by now that one false move in the Service Menus can have dire consequences in which case you only have yourself to blame.

Go ahead and give Samsung a call or, as per the rules of AVS Forum where service menus can only be discussed via Private Message, you can always wait for someone on this thread to contact you to provide help... but I wouldn't be holding your breath!
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I regret spending my morning trying to answer your vague question where you made no mention that you had been messing around in the service menus (otherwise I wouldn't have bothered replying).

A tough and potentially costly lesson considering the scarcity and inflated prices where a used SEK-3500 can fetch several times the price it did when it came out in 2015 but as a member since 2017 if you have been reading this particular thread you should be well aware by now that one false move in the Service Menus can have dire consequences in which case you only have yourself to blame.

Go ahead and give Samsung a call or, as per the rules of AVS Forum where service menus can only be discussed via Private Message, you can always wait for someone on this thread to contact you to provide help... but I wouldn't be holding your breath!



ok, through another comparison I managed to make it work, I'll see if I find all the original parameters as default


* before giving this error, it did not finish setting up the smart hub

* I can not post photos yet.
sorry


* I upgraded to 1530 01 and gave this problem, that's where I looked for the service menu


Musician, your message was great help, I just ventured into this menu to compare with another tv

Thank you
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Evo kit still worth it?

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I'm a long time lurker on this site and I have always been able to find my answers by searching around. This one is more of an opinion question so I'm looking for some insights.
I have a 55" HU8550
1: Is it still worth it to upgrade the TV with the SEK 3500? ( if i can find one)
2: Most of what I have read says to stay away from the SEK 4500. Any thoughts ?

Thanks in advance for any help
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I'm a long time lurker on this site and I have always been able to find my answers by searching around. This one is more of an opinion question so I'm looking for some insights.
I have a 55" HU8550
1: Is it still worth it to upgrade the TV with the SEK 3500? ( if i can find one)
2: Most of what I have read says to stay away from the SEK 4500. Any thoughts ?

Thanks in advance for any help
Welcome lurker.

My advise would be No.

In 2016 you could pick up a 2 year old 55 inch HU8550 for under $1000 so I would think now that it’s 5 years old it would be hard to find a buyer for even half of that if you were lucky (which is more than the going price of an SEK-3500). I usually just give my old stuff away to avoid all the cost of shipping which can add up to a chunk of change.

Is a used UN55HU8550 a bargain at $975?

Even back in 2016 guys were saying that wasn’t a good deal and to stay away since technologies had come a long way in those couple of years. Even more so in the last 5 years!

Meanwhile (due to the fact the SEK-4500 was such a disappointment) an SEK-3500 is going now for 2 to 3 times the cost they did when they came out new in 2015.

Since you waited this long, my advice would be to hang onto your money and buy something new when you are ready.

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Welcome lurker.

My advise would be No.

In 2016 you could pick up a 2 year old 55 inch HU8550 for under $1000 so I would think now that it’s 5 years old it would be hard to find a buyer for even half of that if you were lucky (which is more than the going price of an SEK-3500). I usually just give my old stuff away to avoid all the cost of shipping which can add up to a chunk of change.

Is a used UN55HU8550 a bargain at $975?

Even back in 2016 guys were saying that wasn’t a good deal and to stay away since technologies had come a long way in those couple of years. Even more so in the last 5 years!

Meanwhile (due to the fact the SEK-4500 was such a disappointment) an SEK-3500 is going now for 2 to 3 times the cost they did when they came out new in 2015.

Since you waited this long, my advice would be to hang onto your money and buy something new when you are ready.

Cheers


My advice would be … the only reason to update to even the 3500 would be if you have a 3D TV

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My advice would be … the only reason to update to even the 3500 would be if you have a 3D TV
I think @Musician and @CopyRon both gave really good advice. The SEK-3500 is priced very high on the resale market and is hard to find. You could probably find an 55NU8000 more easily for the same price as an SEK3500. I've been happy with the SEK4500 and have the same TV (55HU8550).

The SEK-4500 works well for the setup that I have in my sig (soundbar, devices connected directly to SEK, one picture mode for all devices). It has been on sale often at B&H Photo and is worth it if you can get it for a good price and plan to keep the TV. I have a couple 4K devices and directv genie mini hooked up through it. It does a good job processing signal (upscaling directv) and allows me to avoid using the older, slower interface of the TV. The newer version of Tizen is very nice and the universal remote that comes with the SEK4500 works great (same remote that comes with 2018 8 Series sets). It automatically discovers and can control all of your external devices (with Anynet+ / HDMI CEC enabled).

You have to work around the lack of 3D by using one of your original HDMI ports that the SEK4500 is not taking up since the newer version of Tizen doesn't support 3D. You also have to work around HDR by creating a picture mode for it since although the SEK4500 will pass the HDR signal to your TV, without a JS or SEK3500 there is no picture mode for it. I don't game, so I can't speak to how it would impact gaming only that there is no game mode. Speaking of picture modes, you also lose the ability to control certain settings for different inputs since everything is sent through one HDMI port. I've always preferred to tweak my settings once and don't really need different picture settings for my HDMI inputs, however, this could be an issue for some. The SEK4500 doesn't have an ARC port, however, you can still use ARC with the 4500 by connecting to the ARC port on your TV (you can also use the optical digital port on the SEK4500 or your TV). I think like most people I wish the 4500 were designed like the 3500, however, it does cost considerably less. I think it depends what you're looking for and how much longer you plan to keep this TV in terms of whether its worth it or not to you.
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I think @Musician and @CopyRon both gave really good advice. The SEK-3500 is priced very high on the resale market and is hard to find. You could probably find an 55NU8000 more easily for the same price as an SEK3500. I've been happy with the SEK4500 and have the same TV (55HU8550).

The SEK-4500 works well for the setup that I have in my sig (soundbar, devices connected directly to SEK, one picture mode for all devices). It has been on sale often at B&H Photo and is worth it if you can get it for a good price and plan to keep the TV. I have a couple 4K devices and directv genie mini hooked up through it. It does a good job processing signal (upscaling directv) and allows me to avoid using the older, slower interface of the TV. The newer version of Tizen is very nice and the universal remote that comes with the SEK4500 works great (same remote that comes with 2018 8 Series sets). It automatically discovers and can control all of your external devices (with Anynet+ / HDMI CEC enabled).

You have to work around the lack of 3D by using one of your original HDMI ports that the SEK4500 is not taking up since the newer version of Tizen doesn't support 3D. You also have to work around HDR by creating a picture mode for it since although the SEK4500 will pass the HDR signal to your TV, without a JS or SEK3500 there is no picture mode for it. I don't game, so I can't speak to how it would impact gaming only that there is no game mode. Speaking of picture modes, you also lose the ability to control certain settings for different inputs since everything is sent through one HDMI port. I've always preferred to tweak my settings once and don't really need different picture settings for my HDMI inputs, however, this could be an issue for some. The SEK4500 doesn't have an ARC port, however, you can still use ARC with the 4500 by connecting to the ARC port on your TV (you can also use the optical digital port on the SEK4500 or your TV). I think like most people I wish the 4500 were designed like the 3500, however, it does cost considerably less. I think it depends what you're looking for and how much longer you plan to keep this TV in terms of whether its worth it or not to you.
Thanks for all the advice, I will take it. I'm going to wait and get HDR OLED at some point. I use the one hdmi 2.2 port for the video switching in a newer a Yamaha RX -v685 receiver and I get solid 4k 60 on all my streaming devices and PC so I can wait.
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Day & Night Cal Modes

Is it possible to have Cal Day and Cal Night Menu Options appear on a Samsung 65HU9000 with the SEK-3500 Evolution Kit using the Service Menu?

Tried under service menu, went to SVC, but did not get the "Other Settings" option to get into "Expert" and then into "N/D ADJ".

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Is it possible to have Cal Day and Cal Night Menu Options appear on a Samsung 65HU9000 with the SEK-3500 Evolution Kit using the Service Menu?

Tried under service menu, went to SVC, but did not get the "Other Settings" option to get into "Expert" and then into "N/D ADJ".

Any ideas?

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Of course it's possible. Try again. Take pictures and post for assistance.
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@rhmarquez As you probably know, entering Service Menu can easily (and permanently) 'brick' your TV, so discussion of it is discouraged on the open forum.

Best instruction I've seen was a 'pdf' on first post of this thread:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...-s-thread.html

A direct link to the pdf just goes into my own download folder, so download from first post's bottom list (KS9800 Cal Night HDR Settings 10-29-16.pdf)
or try this:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...9&d=1478110620

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Got it!

Aware that messing around SVC settings can brick the system.

All I wanted to do was to add the Cal-Night and Day modes which I was finally able to do.

Don't plan on messing around the SVC menu beyond that.

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Hello, Any idea where I can order/buy long one connect cable (25 feet) for SEK-3500U?
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Hello, Any idea where I can order/buy long one connect cable (25 feet) for SEK-3500U?
Any length greater than the proprietary cable that comes with the SEK-3500 (which is exactly 9 feet 9 and 1/2 inches) are not available. Probably because a longer length would not be capable of carrying the signal without introducing artifacts such as sparkles.

A read through this thread will reveal some alternatives, such as this post of mine where I have the Evo Kit hidden behind my TV...

Installing the Evo Kit Behind the TV

...or this post demonstrating how one member hooked his up behind his wall mounted TV...

Installing the Evo Kit Behind a Wall Mounted TV

Then, if your mission is to place your components some distance away, I would suggest using longer runs of MonoPrice Certified Premium High-Speed HDMI Cable snaked though the walls etween them and the One Connect Box.
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Any length greater than the proprietary cable that comes with the SEK-3500 (which is exactly 9 feet 9 and 1/2 inches) are not available. Probably because a longer length would not be capable of carrying the signal without introducing artifacts such as sparkles.



A read through this thread will reveal some alternatives, such as this post of mine where I have the Evo Kit hidden behind my TV...



Installing the Evo Kit Behind the TV



...or this post demonstrating how one member hooked his up behind his wall mounted TV...



Installing the Evo Kit Behind a Wall Mounted TV



Then, if your mission is to place your components some distance away, I would suggest using longer runs of MonoPrice Certified Premium High-Speed HDMI Cable snaked though the walls etween them and the One Connect Box.


Thank you Musician! I’ll order Monoprice cables and go this route.


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Watching YouTube HLG Videos - Part 1

So the other day I learned that some people are publishing HLG videos on YouTube. I posted my findings over on the Master List of currently available 4k HDR titles.

For those that missed the conversation I would urge you to visit that thread and read posts 27126 and 27127 and some of the replies that follow in posts 27128, 27129, 27130, 27131, 27136, 27137, and 27140.

So just like VP9, our TVs weren't built to support HLG either... but if you happen to have a 4K compliant computer or some other device capable of playing the files identified in Stats for Nerds with color equal to "arib-std-b67 (HLG)" you may be in luck. To determine if your computer is capable of streaming HDR, if you are using Windows 10 go into Display Settings and you should be able to toggle the Play HDR games and apps button ON as shown below...



Alternatively you can click on the Windows HD Color settings on the same screen to take you to another screen where you can make other modifications as well.

Note: If your computer is not capable you will not be able to enable HDR streaming. For more info I would suggest you search the web to review materials specific to your operating system and hardware.

I happen to have a fairly recent 4K computer with an NVIDEA graphics card so no problem for me however one thing I did notice was that I typically use Edge as my browser of choice as I find the Google Chrome browser over saturates the picture quality when playing HDR content using the same picture settings.

To remedy that I created a customized Picture Mode using the STANDARD setting that wasn't being used on the HDMI input I have my PC plugged into where I normally use the MOVIE mode. Now I have the best of both worlds by using the MOVIE mode to watch SDR from both browsers and toggle between MOVIE and STANDARD while watching HDR & HLG content depending on which browser I am using.

I will be covering that in my next post illustrated with pictures! Bet you can hardly wait!
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Watching YouTube HLG Videos - Part 2

SDR - Microsoft Edge & Google Chrome

For SDR content both browsers produce a similar picture and the MOVIE Picture Mode can be used for both.

HDR - Microsoft Edge

For HDR Microsoft Edge can use the same MOVIE Picture Mode settings as it uses to play SDR content as shown in thumbnail 1 below...



HDR - Google Chrome

However for HDR & HLG on the Google Chrome browser the colors are over saturated and blown out as shown below using the MOVIE Picture Mode as shown in thumbnail 2 below...


Over Saturated image as a evidenced by the sun and bright washed out sky

As a result I have created a custom STANDARD Picture Mode reducing the Gamma to -3 and reducing the Brightness to 21 instead of 42. This is especially evident while playing HLG YouTube videos. More on that later.

As you can see thumbnail 3 below now looks pretty much identical to the HDR picture produced by the Microsoft Edge browser shown in the picture at the top of the page...



HLG - Google Chrome

Only the Google Chrome browser is capable of playing HLG content at this time. These videos are identified in Stats for Nerds with Color arib-std-b67.

Again, to avoid over saturation the customized STANDARD Picture Mode should be used which will produce awesome HLG video quality like that shown in thumbnail 4 below...


Apologies for the photos but for anyone out there that has tried to take pictures of a screen displaying HDR content then they will know what I was up against (not to mention my shaky hand causing some blur)... thus the dropped frames on the photo above which were the result of me moving the scroll bar back and forth searching the video for a picture that did justice to my customized settings.

Additional Notes

To use Microsoft Edge to display 4K or HDR YouTube videos it is necessary to make an adjustment to the browser by typing “about: flags” as the URL which will bring up a screen full of hidden settings and then scroll down and enable VP9 as shown in thumbnail 5 as follows:



Note: If your computer is not capable of HDR then changing this will probably have no effect. For more info view the attached PDF document titled “Enabling VP9 in the Microsoft Edge Browser” and scour the web to review materials specific to your operating system and hardware.

Remember, settings are a matter of personal taste so have fun seeing what you find best!
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As a result I have created a custom STANDARD Picture Mode reducing the Gamma to -3 and reducing the Brightness to 21 instead of 42. This is especially evident while playing HLG YouTube videos. More on that later.

As you can see thumbnail 3 below now looks pretty much identical to the HDR picture produced by the Microsoft Edge browser shown in the picture at the top of the page...
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Again, to avoid over saturation the customized STANDARD Picture Mode should be used which will produce awesome HLG video quality like that shown in thumbnail 4 below...
I've had to do something similar and used the STANDARD picture mode for HDR content on my HU8550 with the SEK-4500 which has worked very well *. I've also found that I've had to reduce gamma and brightness (in addition to using the native color space). Occasionally, the amount of brightness reduction I need will sometimes vary but for the most part will stay consistently below 37 or 38. It's great that this also works for the SEK-3500 when an HLG HDR signal is sent. Anyone who hasn't tried this should check it out. The videos that musician linked are impressive, just make sure to view them on a browser that's capable of displaying HLG. Although my iPad Pro supports HLG, it didn't work properly through the tapatalk video player or safari.

* For those that haven't read previous posts of mine, the SEK4500 sends HDR signal to the display but since it is an OS on top of an OS it doesn't have a native HDR picture mode like the SEK-3500 has
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Watching YouTube HLG Videos - Part 3

After some experimentation I thought there must be an easier way than having to toggle between Picture Modes and that is when I came across the following article…

If you see washed out colors in Google Chrome, try this easy (and reversible) fix

…that talks about the hidden flags in Google Chrome that can be accessed by typing “Chrome://flags” into the browser’s URL bar and then searching for “Force color profile” and changing it from the default to either scRGB linear (HDR where available)...



… or HDR10 (HDR where available)



Since I have my NVIDEA graphics card set to use color format YCbCR then HDR10 (HDR where available) seemed to be the logical choice in my case rather than scRGB (HDR where available).

Although the author was concerned about washed out colors, my issue using Google Chrome was also about how bright and over-saturated the colors appeared when compared to Microsoft Edge when displaying HDR. Whatever the case using this setting now allows me to use either browser to display SDR and HDR (and HLG where supported) without the need for maintaining two separate Picture Modes settings.

Below are examples of the opening sequence of the same HDR title I used in my previous posts but now they are using the same MOVIE Picture Mode settings…

HDR - Microsoft Edge



HDR - Google Chrome



Gotta like that!

Footnote: I just wanted to add that those HLG YouTube files I posted on the Master List of currently available 4k HDR titles thread in posts 27126 and 27127 look better than I could ever imagine now that I have discovered this hidden setting! I suspect that my unconventional customized settings (reducing the brightness to the low 20's and the gamma to -3) were having a substantial negative impact. The videos now appear much more 3 dimensional
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Hi,
I have a Samsung 78HU9000 purchased in late 2014, and a Samsung SEK-3500U/ZA Evolution Kit purchased in June 2015.
I have NOT installed the SEK-3500 yet... partially due to the fact that I had my HU9000 professionally calibrated and I didn't want to mess that up. Now I've got enough 4K devices that demand HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2.2 that I feel it is finally overdue for me to set it up. So, I reached out to my calibrator and arranged for him to come do the calibration again after I get the SEK-3500 set up.

I've been following this thread, but would love it if someone can summarize the best step-by-step way to install the SEK-3500 (or point to a relevant post). Do I need to be concerned about what version of firmware is on the SEK-3500? May it be too old for the HU9000 with its latest firmware? I saw talk of panel versions in this thread... anything I need to think about for that? (I don't know what panel version I have). Sorry if this is a newbie style post, but with 20K posts it is very hard to find the TL;DR for new owners of the SEK-3500.

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