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Finally got my 940 this morning, they just dropped it off and left. Apparently since I was getting free delivery that was all they would do. However the salesman said to call him and he would come over and help. I don't know if I should try doing this myself, I know it's going to take 2 people to get up on the credenza. I believe I read an earlier post from Carlos that you put the stand/feet on it while it's still in the box so it sounds like I will need to lay the box down on it's backside and than open at the bottom for the stand. I do have a friend coming over later this morning so I will wait for him.
One person can put the feet on, but if you can get someone to help, it's preferred. I did mine by myself in my garage. I had the TV against some trash cans which were against a wall and me on the other side so there was no way it would topple on its side. I also put the TV on pieces of 2x4 first so I could easily slide my fingers under it for lifting to put the feet on. The TV is very heavy so if you have a bad back or are generally weak, I would wait for help. It took 3 of us to carry the TV inside and place on the wall mount.
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Pulled the trigger on my 75" 940c last night. After some haggling got a free heavy duty mount (Sanus VLF410-B1) and install added on, along with 10.25% of the price back in reward points (plus used over $1400 in reward points on it), making it a much more reasonable buy. Its crazy to me that stores cant compete on the actual price of the unit (both Nebraska and Best Buy said they cant adjust the price other than $1) so they kept throwing different incentives at me to buy from them, such as store gift cards, free install, free mounts, all that. Went with best buy as I'm an elite plus card holder so got the 10.25% back on the purchase (will go towards my wifes new oven).

It gets delivered and installed on Saturday. So excited! I've been living off a Samsung 52a650 sense 2008, its served me incredibly well and still looks good compared to average screens today, I wish it could have held out another few years so OLED's could hit in force, but sadly caps are going out on it and half the time she wont turn on. I think this set should serve me another 8 years

Quick question for everyone, Best Buy gave me the Sanus VLF410-B1 with it after I told them the standard wall mount wasnt good enough for my needs and haggled more with them to throw it in, I notice its rated for 125lbs, the tv without stands is 123lbs. is that too close for comfort?
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940C First Impressions and Photos

Hey All,

I exchanged my 950B for a 940C over the weekend. So far, I love the 940C. I am extremely impressed with it. I have not noticed any dead pixels or uniformity issues like I have on all of the sets I exchanged leading up the 940C. It is absolutely amazing. I do not know much about calibrating it, so I have used Axel’s settings for now and will get it calibrated after I have used it a bit. I have attached some pictures of some clips from Chicago PD (NBC), Interstellar (blu-ray), Orange is the New Black (Netflix), and a slide from Carlos. As you can see, the blacks in interstellar look great, the colors look natural in the Orange is the New Black and Chicago PD shot, and the TV has great uniformity.

For those that are as OCD as I am with purchases of this cost and want the best picture, the 940C is the way to go.
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Hey All,

I exchanged my 950B for a 940C over the weekend. So far, I love the 940C. I am extremely impressed with it. I have not noticed any dead pixels or uniformity issues like I have on all of the sets I exchanged leading up the 940C. It is absolutely amazing. I do not know much about calibrating it, so I have used Axel’s settings for now and will get it calibrated after I have used it a bit. I have attached some pictures of some clips from Chicago PD (NBC), Interstellar (blu-ray), Orange is the New Black (Netflix), and a slide from Carlos. As you can see, the blacks in interstellar look great, the colors look natural in the Orange is the New Black and Chicago PD shot, and the TV has great uniformity.

For those that are as OCD as I am with purchases of this cost and want the best picture, the 940C is the way to go.
Start here: Settings from Carlos
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I have a problem with my 940c where it switches to vivid when starting up. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it does this after watching HDR. I can switch it to another mode, but it's kind of a pain. Anyone else have this happen?
I've had the same thing from time to time. It always follows watching something that was HDR encoded, but it doesn't always occur.
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I did mine by myself and it is not an easy task. When you unbox the TV, it ends up being in a tray which is the bottom of the cardboard box with three large sections of Styrofoam. You do not lay it on its side to put on the stands. When you release the Styrofoam from the cardboard, the TV becomes very unstable.You have to lift one side out of the Styrofoam, push the plastic wrap off of the end and slide the stand up from the bottom. Then you insert the screws and do the same on the other side. All of this while the TV is balancing in the tray. Once you have right and left stands on, you have to get the center Styrofoam off. If you don't want to bust up the center Styrofoam, you need to put something under the legs to lift the TV high enough to clear the Styrofoam. I used some 4 x 10 pieces of lumber.

When it came time to hook mine to the wall mount, I had my wife. She couldn't lift one side of the TV, so I used chairs and stacks of lumber to raise the TV one side at a time. Then I pushed the TV back to the wall mount and lowered the TV till it caught the latch. Took three tries.
Wow, that must have been exciting. I'm glad I wasn't there to watch.
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Finally got my 940 this morning, they just dropped it off and left. Apparently since I was getting free delivery that was all they would do. However the salesman said to call him and he would come over and help. I don't know if I should try doing this myself, I know it's going to take 2 people to get up on the credenza. I believe I read an earlier post from Carlos that you put the stand/feet on it while it's still in the box so it sounds like I will need to lay the box down on it's backside and than open at the bottom for the stand. I do have a friend coming over later this morning so I will wait for him.
If I remember correctly from the manual or plastic cover, I don't think you should lay your tv on it's backside, ever. Can somebody confirm?
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If you use the Sanus Mountfinder, it shows a VLF410 as a mount for the XBR75X940C.

You are fine.

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Quick question for everyone, Best Buy gave me the Sanus VLF410-B1 with it after I told them the standard wall mount wasnt good enough for my needs and haggled more with them to throw it in, I notice its rated for 125lbs, the tv without stands is 123lbs. is that too close for comfort?

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Just got my new 930C tracking from Chris. Now I wait

Also, Chad B set for 11/13 calibration.
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Hey All,

I exchanged my 950B for a 940C over the weekend. So far, I love the 940C. I am extremely impressed with it. I have not noticed any dead pixels or uniformity issues like I have on all of the sets I exchanged leading up the 940C. It is absolutely amazing. I do not know much about calibrating it, so I have used Axel’s settings for now and will get it calibrated after I have used it a bit. I have attached some pictures of some clips from Chicago PD (NBC), Interstellar (blu-ray), Orange is the New Black (Netflix), and a slide from Carlos. As you can see, the blacks in interstellar look great, the colors look natural in the Orange is the New Black and Chicago PD shot, and the TV has great uniformity.

For those that are as OCD as I am with purchases of this cost and want the best picture, the 940C is the way to go.
Why did you exchange your x950b for the x940c?
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Be on the safe side, get someone to help you.
I make it a point of doing absolutely all A/V stuff alone. It's a matter of personal pride.
(Or an Asperger's symptom depending on your point of view.)
In the old days, I even ceiling mounted a Sony 1270Q (120lb+) projector myself.

I put my pride aside and got help in all aspects of moving, unboxing, and wall mounting the TV.
It's just not ergonomically possible for one person to do it without risking damage to the TV, even if you are as strong as Carlos.
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Like large subs, it's not as much the weight but the size that requires 4 hands. 75" display is huge!

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If I remember correctly from the manual or plastic cover, I don't think you should lay your tv on it's backside, ever. Can somebody confirm?


With the help of a friend and being very careful I was able to get the stand on and put it up on the credenza I made my connections and the TV directed me to do some basic setup stuff like putting in my 2 Wire router/modem password and than it had me set up my over the antennae stations. it asked me about doing a firmware download and I did it took about 50 minutes. I finally got to see the picture. I checked out on the 3 inputs I am using the over air antennae, HDMI 3 for the Direct TV Genie and the wife friendly set up using the component video outputs from the Direct TV HDR along with the left & right composite audio connectors and the picture right out of the box seemed surprisingly good on all 3 inputs. The sound didn't blow me away but I will say that It Is better than the Pioneer Plasma Elite Pro 151FD which also had some pretty decent side speakers. I plan to get it calibrated eventually by the same gentleman, Jeff Meier of AcuCal, who calibrated my plasma.
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Be on the safe side, get someone to help you.
No joke. This is a two person minimum- the TV is just too wide to handle safely with one person trying to hold it from the middle.

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Has anyone used an HDMI splitter with the 940C?
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So if the splitter is working on the other TV, is there a chance that there is something incompatible with the 940C?
Despite what you will read, there is a difference between 10.2 gbps HDMI cables and 18 gbps HDMI cables.
Many cables that are fine at 10.2 don't work, or work partially at 18 gbps.

I have a 5 port HDMI 2.0 switch, probably made by the same company as your splitter. If I connect an Nvidia Shield at 18 gbps straight into the Sony, I can get 2160P 4:4:4. If I run it through the switch, no matter what I tried, I could only get 4:2:0. Once you get to 15 feet+ for 18gbps, it starts to get dicey. Some cables wouldn't work at 18gbps at all. When I got it to work, the HDMI cables were HDMI 2.0 cables of shorter length, and no switch.

It ended up being easier to just buy a Denon AVR-S910W which has 7/2 HDMI ports and use that. Now everything syncs all the time, as expected. BUT, my cable from the AVR to the Sony is still 10.2, and I am awaiting a replacement. So I'm still not sure if I am getting 18 all the way through yet.
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I was wondering the same. I can set blacklevel and contrast easy enough, was kinda looking for backlight suggestions and what fL/cdm2 they output.
I get 62.6 FtL = 214.491 cd/m^2 at 100% white using the settings I posted.
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No joke. This is a two person minimum- the TV is just too wide to handle safely with one person trying to hold it from the middle.



Despite what you will read, there is a difference between 10.2 gbps HDMI cables and 18 gbps HDMI cables.
Many cables that are fine at 10.2 don't work, or work partially at 18 gbps.

I have a 5 port HDMI 2.0 switch, probably made by the same company as your splitter. If I connect an Nvidia Shield at 18 gbps straight into the Sony, I can get 2160P 4:4:4. If I run it through the switch, no matter what I tried, I could only get 4:2:0. Once you get to 15 feet+ for 18gbps, it starts to get dicey. Some cables wouldn't work at 18gbps at all. When I got it to work, the HDMI cables were HDMI 2.0 cables of shorter length, and no switch.

It ended up being easier to just buy a Denon AVR-S910W which has 7/2 HDMI ports and use that. Now everything syncs all the time, as expected. BUT, my cable from the AVR to the Sony is still 10.2, and I am awaiting a replacement. So I'm still not sure if I am getting 18 all the way through yet.
Its cool you can confirm the display has 18gbps HDMI, at least I assume that it what this can confirm. I updated all my monoprice redmere cables to their 18gb versions, hopefully they work ok.

On another note, why is it the the box says "X93 C"?.



But the box label says:

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Why did you exchange your x950b for the x940c?
My 950B had stuck pixels (about 4-5 near middle of screen) and had some DSE. For about $1400 more, I was able to get the 940C which drew me due to the larger screen, HDR, and better processor. So far seems like I have had better luck with the 940C, so I am happy I made the switch.
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Is there a setting to have netflix audio on the 940c play through my avr?
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Its cool you can confirm the display has 18gbps HDMI, at least I assume that it what this can confirm. I updated all my monoprice redmere cables to their 18gb versions, hopefully they work ok.

On another note, why is it the the box says "X93 C"?.



But the box label says:
All of the Sonys are like that. For the 850C it says X85C on the front.
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Ah. First Sony Ive actually owned since 2006, did not know that.

I noticed that even in the HDTVTest review they just called them the X93 and X94. Speaking of, their review from June kinda hits both tv's for lack of 4:4:4 support and calls into question whether they will have the new 2.0a and 18gbps HDMI. States Samsung had it in 2014. Sony might want to get them to add an addendum to that review!

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Going to have to move, and need your feedback. Can't move tv myself due to back issues, so relying on movers. I no longer have box tv came in, and need to know what packing materials I should prepare myself and/or have movers use, as well as what instructions I should require they follow to minimize any potential damage to unit. Many thanks!
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once I had my 940C setup I started exploring the picture settings in the main remote control. My default picture setting was "Standard" and it appears to give me the best picture right out of the box with no changes. Forget the "Vivid" setting it is way too bright. The "Cinema Pro" & "Cinema Home" and Custom setting looked good but not as bright as the "Standard" setting. I have yet to experiment with any of the posted calibration settings, but was wondering should I use the "Custom" setting for that?
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Going to have to move, and need your feedback. Can't move tv myself due to back issues, so relying on movers. I no longer have box tv came in, and need to know what packing materials I should prepare myself and/or have movers use, as well as what instructions I should require they follow to minimize any potential damage to unit. Many thanks!
930 or 940?

Uhaul and other places sell "TV" boxes that will handle up to 65", I have used them before.

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Is there a setting to have netflix audio on the 940c play through my avr?
I ran a toslink cable from the back of the TV to my Yamaha 3050 and it sounds great. I press the AV1 button on my Yamaha remote (the input I used) and it just works. No settings changes.
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Quick question for everyone, Best Buy gave me the Sanus VLF410-B1 with it after I told them the standard wall mount wasnt good enough for my needs and haggled more with them to throw it in, I notice its rated for 125lbs, the tv without stands is 123lbs. is that too close for comfort?
The BB web site has it rated to 120 lb. There's probably a factor of safety built in, but why risk a $6k+ TV on not buying an $80 wall mount?

I use this one
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5920

It's rated to 200 lbs. They have one rated to 300 lbs for a little over $100.
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The BB web site has it rated to 120 lb. There's probably a factor of safety built in, but why risk a $6k+ TV on not buying an $80 wall mount?

I use this one
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5920

It's rated to 200 lbs. They have one rated to 300 lbs for a little over $100.
BBuys website is incorrect, and Id trust Sanus over Monoprice in wall mount specs any day...

If their mountfinder says it works for your display, its fine. Plus he got it for FREE!!! You are gonna scare the guy into spending a $100 he doesnt need to.

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I have been able to identify the uses for all the things that came with the TV with the exception of one item. Can anybody tell me, what the USB that's connected to a thin cable that is attached to what almost looks like ear buds is used for?
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I have been able to identify the uses for all the things that came with the TV with the exception of one item. Can anybody tell me, what the USB that's connected to a thin cable that is attached to what almost looks like ear buds is used for?
They're ear plugs in case you want to be very quiet.
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Id trust Sanus over Monoprice in wall mount specs any day...
Do you have any evidence of monoprice overstating their specs? Or are you just assuming they can't possibly charge far less for a stronger mount?
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