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So does no one else experience this?


I'm sure that reviews I read prior to getting this TV mentioned it was able to display 3D at full resolution due to being a 4k display with active glasses, but there's no way it has the detail of 2D versions of the same Blu-rays. It reminds me of my parents 1080p LG with passive glasses, which can only output at something like 720p in 3D.
We watched Paranorman on it a few days ago and it was considerably better than my previous 3D TV. Don't know if it was full resolution, but it was noticeable.
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I'm probably going to buy the 4k blu ray player samsung since sony not making one. Anyone have any thoughts on if when getting it I should have the blu ray player use its own upscaling of my current 1080 blu rays or find some way to disable to have tv use its upscaling?
Outside of an 4K Oppo that isn't out yet my money is on the Sony X-1 scaler in the TV .
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FYI all. The sanus vlt5b1 tilt mechanism can't hold this tv. The tv tilts all the way down until the bottom of the tv hits the wall

If your TV is under 125 pounds it should hold it.

Check to see if there is an adjustment screw/nob that you can tighten on the tilting part (most wall mounts do).

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I'm probably going to buy the 4k blu ray player samsung since sony not making one. Anyone have any thoughts on if when getting it I should have the blu ray player use its own upscaling of my current 1080 blu rays or find some way to disable to have tv use its upscaling?
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Outside of an 4K Oppo that isn't out yet my money is on the Sony X-1 scaler in the TV .

Assuming the new Samsung UHD Blu-ray player has the option, set it to output regular Blu-rays at 1080p/24fps.

As "Z1-B" pointed out, the high-end Sony TVs have one of the best upscaling engines in the biz, I seriously doubt the Samsung UHD Blu-ray player is going to do a better job upscaling (and even if it did, you probably wouldn't be able to notice the difference anyways).

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Been searching for this but I didnt really get a clear answer... how does one enable HDR on the x940c?

Thank you in advance
It should automatically switch to it and out of it as needed playing HDR 10 like mine does and U don't want it outside of HDR media /streaming or with any SDR content anyway everything will look sunburned and all the video levels wont index right !

You can try Action Menu > Picture adj >Picture Mode > HDR mode on an HDMI input but like I said you wont want it on bt709 or SDR content .

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If your TV is under 125 pounds it should hold it.

Check to see if there is an adjustment screw/nob that you can tighten on the tilting part (most wall mounts do).

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There's a knob and I've adjusted it as tight as it will go. It won't hold it.
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FYI all. The sanus vlt5b1 tilt mechanism can't hold this tv. The tv tilts all the way down until the bottom of the tv hits the wall........

Going to call sanus Monday, as they confirmed this mount is right for this tv.....

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I've had my 940C on this full motion mount from monoprice for months without any issue. It's currently on sale for $48.
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I've had my 940C on this full motion mount from monoprice for months without any issue. It's currently on sale for $48.
Have you tried the tilt mechanism on it? Also, do you know the approximate distance between the tv and wall when collapsed? Does it sag when you pull it off the wall?

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Don't know if it was full resolution, but it was noticeable.
HDTVtest verified full HD 3D resolution. This is the paragraph from their review just before the "Final Word" section:

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Upscaling from standard-definition resolution (480i/ 576i) looked softer on the Sony KD-75X9405C than what we’re used to on competing models from Samsung and Panasonic. Engaging [Reality Creation] sharpened things up but introduced visible fizziness around high-contrast edges, so use it sparingly. Extra-dimensional material were presented with some faint crosstalk, but this was more than compensated for by the X94C’s detail (we verified full HD 3D resolution) and dynamism ([Backlight] was locked to “Max” in 3D mode). Input lag came in at a thoroughly playable 37ms in [Game] mode. (Emphasis added)
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Question for the x940c owners out there. I ordered this TV from best buy and its scheduled for delivery at my current residence next week. With various discounts, I purchased the TV for $4600 at best buy( discover -apple pay promo).

I will move to a new home in 4 months and will keep it in my media room.

Should I be waiting for the x940D- and risk higher prices for possibly improved picture quality and aesthetics. I'm not sure if "thiness" is worth it or not.
Should I cancel the x940c at the price I got it?
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Have you tried the tilt mechanism on it? Also, do you know the approximate distance between the tv and wall?
Not lately since I really haven't had the need (I wanted full motion primarily to get easier access to the rear connection ports but haven't really had the need given the connections on the X10 and Marantz). It worked fine though when we were playing around with it during installation. I have it tilted slightly back at the top to mimic the position it was in on the stands. It's such a big damn TV though that it took two of us on each end to get it just right.
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Question for the x940c owners out there. I ordered this TV from best buy and its scheduled for delivery at my current residence next week. With various discounts, I purchased the TV for $4600 at best buy( discover -apple pay promo).

I will move to a new home in 4 months and will keep it in my media room.

Should I be waiting for the x940D- and risk higher prices for possibly improved picture quality and aesthetics. I'm not sure if "thiness" is worth it or not.
Should I cancel the x940c at the price I got it?
Honestly, it's hard to say until the 940D is reviewed. If you can wait, you might want to do so. However, if you decide to keep the C, you will not be disappointed. It's an incredible TV and, yes, the speakers sound quite good. Crank up Pandora, plop down on the couch, hit "Pic Off" and you'll find out what I mean.
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Big Favor to ask.....could someone please summarize the differences between the 2014 79 inch xbr900B and the current 940C (besides the obvious screen size difference)? I have an opportunity to grab a Magnolia display model 79" 900B for $3499.99 and am kind of tempted. It looks great on display and for that price.....Can anyone summarize differences...including any significant differences in brightness/black performance/contrast etc? Is the 900B HDR compatible? I really love the 940C...but we're talking almost half the price for the 900B....thanks for all info in advance..it prob wont be around long at that price...
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Anyone having problems with Amazon? I have a 940c and all I get is the spinning circle.
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Anyone having problems with Amazon? I have a 940c and all I get is the spinning circle.
Never mind. I cleared the cache and now it's working. Seems like an unreasonable thing to have to regularly do on a $6k TV.
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Question for the x940c owners out there. I ordered this TV from best buy and its scheduled for delivery at my current residence next week. With various discounts, I purchased the TV for $4600 at best buy( discover -apple pay promo).

I will move to a new home in 4 months and will keep it in my media room.

Should I be waiting for the x940D- and risk higher prices for possibly improved picture quality and aesthetics. I'm not sure if "thiness" is worth it or not.
Should I cancel the x940c at the price I got it?
Honestly, it's hard to say until the 940D is reviewed. If you can wait, you might want to do so. However, if you decide to keep the C, you will not be disappointed. It's an incredible TV and, yes, the speakers sound quite good. Crank up Pandora, plop down on the couch, hit "Pic Off" and you'll find out what I mean.
Does the wedge and thickness of the set bother you? How would the x940c look mounted.

I do wish some ces attendees spent more time with x940d and gave a solid first impression. Seems like all the news was focused on the x930d.
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Honestly, it's hard to say until the 940D is reviewed. If you can wait, you might want to do so. However, if you decide to keep the C, you will not be disappointed. It's an incredible TV and, yes, the speakers sound quite good. Crank up Pandora, plop down on the couch, hit "Pic Off" and you'll find out what I mean.
Do you think it will still possible to pick up the x940c by the time the 940d is reviewed?I'm worried that Sony might cease the production of the x940c once the x940d is released. Currently still deciding between the two.....But I really want to see how X940d will be like before making my decision.
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Do you think it will still possible to pick up the x940c by the time the 940d is reviewed?I'm worried that Sony might cease the production of the x940c once the x940d is released. Currently still deciding between the two.....But I really want to see how X940d will be like before making my decision.
Waiting that long may be a gamble. Best you can do is keep watching stock and buy at the last minute. I did that with my VT50 in March 2013 (2012 model). Got one of the last ones Chris at Cleveland Plasma could find.
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Looks like our 930/940 are now obsolete:


http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/09/s...-master-drive/



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LOL...marketing.

Every year it goes absolute black, to ultra black, to ultra premium black, to ultra ultra premium black. Dont fall for it. Display advancements in the same catagory (LCD, OLED) have incremental moves from year to year, nothing more.

Ive learned, from yearly upgrades in my past, that 2-3 years is a good cycle for displays. They will have another cool marketing comment for the 940E to make you want one of those too.

My next move will most likely be an OLED, of the 70" nature, once the Dolby Vision/HDR/WCG calibration stuff settles out. Im thinking mid to late '17.
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On another note, Joe Kane in the latest Widescreen Review:

"If you want to be an early adopter of HDR, a good starting point would be a set that can do HDR-10, including P3 color on a 10 bit panel with a light output of at least 750 nits".

I think only the FALD Samsungs and Sony's hit that right now, but the 930C can get pretty bright IIRC in the 400-500 nit range. Of course we know we had HDR10 and P3 covered (90+%).
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Of course we know we had HDR10 and P3 covered (90+%).
Not according to this?

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post40509786
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That would be wrong...
Here's hoping so!
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I thought that was already debunked in this thread somewhere.

edit: manufacturers have a way of taking an 8 bit display, and then using dithering, to create a 10 bit product. They of course are tight lipped on this, so it could be what the 2015 displays are doing. Who knows...

So we have DCIP3 of 90+%
HDR capable
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Looks like our 930/940 are now obsolete:


http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/09/s...-master-drive/
How do you figure?

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Delving through these parameters, it’s clear that most 2015 4K TVs would automatically be ruled out from ever displaying the “Ultra HD Premium” badge, mainly because of insufficient peak brightness. Peak luminance on LG’s EF9500/ EG9600 and Panasonic’s CZ950 OLED televisions was capped at 450 cd/m2; whereas even the best-performing edge-lit LED LCDs last year (such as Samsung’s JS9000 and JS8500) topped out at 600 cd/m2. Only the Sony X94C and perhaps the Samsung JS9500 – both featuring full-array local dimming (FALD) backlight technology – stand a chance of receiving the “Ultra HD Premium” certification retroactively.
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Big Favor to ask.....could someone please summarize the differences between the 2014 79 inch xbr900B and the current 940C (besides the obvious screen size difference)? I have an opportunity to grab a Magnolia display model 79" 900B for $3499.99 and am kind of tempted. It looks great on display and for that price.....Can anyone summarize differences...including any significant differences in brightness/black performance/contrast etc? Is the 900B HDR compatible? I really love the 940C...but we're talking almost half the price for the 900B....thanks for all info in advance..it prob wont be around long at that price...
im surprised nobody has replied to this yet.

but long story short, the 900b is not even in the same league as the 930/940c.

-IPS panel (horrible black levels)
-no HDR and no chance for HDR.
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im surprised nobody has replied to this yet.

but long story short, the 900b is not even in the same league as the 930/940c.

-IPS panel (horrible black levels)
-no HDR and no chance for HDR.
Thank you for your honest reply...I would be interested in hearing more...it's funny how subjective store displays seem..the 900B at Magnolia actually looks brighter and clearer than their 940C...I have seen 940C video online that is just mind blowingly awesome...and the Magnolia 930C has amazing PQ...but for some reason their 940C is "dullish and grainy"...even the sales rep there agreed and tried playing with settings to no avail. The 940C is actually back to back with a giant Samsung 9500 and the rep did say that for some strange reason they had to "split the feed" or something and so the 940C is "sharing" a signal with the Samsung..so he thinks maybe that is it....I wish I could see it appropriately setup....next to the 900B...cause right now ...real life is contradicting what I have seen with online videos...
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Thank you for your honest reply...I would be interested in hearing more...it's funny how subjective store displays seem..the 900B at Magnolia actually looks brighter and clearer than their 940C...I have seen 940C video online that is just mind blowingly awesome...and the Magnolia 930C has amazing PQ...but for some reason their 940C is "dullish and grainy"...even the sales rep there agreed and tried playing with settings to no avail. The 940C is actually back to back with a giant Samsung 9500 and the rep did say that for some strange reason they had to "split the feed" or something and so the 940C is "sharing" a signal with the Samsung..so he thinks maybe that is it....I wish I could see it appropriately setup....next to the 900B...cause right now ...real life is contradicting what I have seen with online videos...
yea the split feed is probably causing.


that 900b probably has a 900:1 CR compared to 4000:1 native on the 940c. but the calibrated black level actually drops # significantly the CR with dimming on shoots up to like 80,000:1 according to calibrator chad b. if you care at all about PQ, its 940c hands down. and im guessing you havent seen HDR yet, so if you did, you'd know that its no contest.
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Anyone wanna try testing your 930/940 and seeing how it does on the 8bit and 10bit stuff?

Is this something you could load on a thumb drive?

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