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Can the 930c Play .Mkv files from a USB port?
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Can the 930c Play .Mkv files from a USB port?
I tried some MKV's on a 930c when I was shopping and it was no go. I played my MKV's on some LG's with no problem. Mp4s worked fine though.
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Sony does not like MKV, always trouble for some reason. Samsung and others have no issues.

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Can the 930c Play .Mkv files from a USB port?
You can install Kodi from the Google Play Store, Kodi handles almost all file formats without problems.

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Just picked up my X930C from BB. I returned my js8500 due to a blue glow from a corner.

Ive noticed things have a very purple tint to them has anyone seen this?

Im early still but I am not impressed with the picture quality.

The plex app is lower bit rate then the Samsung one app.

The netflix app picture quality seems worse and only has stereo sound?

I heard high things about the TV so I assume im missing something.

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Can the 930c Play .Mkv files from a USB port?
We have folks playing MKV files on the X850C, so the X930C/X940C should be able to as well...

One of our members did recently find an issue after the 2/9 SW update:

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I've been bumping up against something lately and wanted to share my trouble shooting findings for anyone else effected.

Since the last firmware update I've had a lot of MKV files that lock up, crash, reports as unplayable (and then become playable when you try again), and other random things. The errors vary and I've found both the Sony Video App, VLC and Kodi to be susceptible. (Kodi frequently reacts the worst.)

A lot of times when I find a time point in a file that does it, I can reproduce it at that point repeatedly on our 55" and 75" sets.

With trial and error I found the solution.
I've gotten in the habit of remuxing all MKV files before use with the options "--engage no_cue_duration --engage no_cue_relative_position".
Sony's BDP-S790 BD player didn't like these newer muxing features. They were added a few years back to MKVtoolNix and are on by default.
Disabling them prevents FF/REW problems when playing media via USB or DLNA on the Sony BD player.

The X850C up until now has been agnostic and could play pretty much anything thrown at it.

THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE. If you set "--engage no_cue_duration --engage no_cue_relative_position" you are likely to have playback issues. Chances seem higher if you have embedded subtitles.

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I am a recent purchaser of the Sony x930c. It's a fantastic TV, with amazing color and contrast, and the 120hz via PC input makes gaming awesome.

Let's talk about the edge lighting. On certain scenes, where there's lots of dark grey or dark parts with bright light, the left and right edges become much lighter than the middle, like 2 bright bands of light. It's not all the time, and usually when it occurs it's temporary. It happens with and without local dimming engaged. Is this common with this TV? Should I just learn to ignore it? In its defense, there's absolutely no clouding, which is a welcome relief.
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I just got my 930C on Saturday and I have definitely not experienced any of the things you guys are seeing. The picture quality is fantastic and I've yet to even notice that this TV is edge lit (which is surprising because I just came from a Vizio M70-C3 "full array"). I'm using CCsoftball settings, but only the daytime one.

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I just got my 930C on Saturday and I have definitely not experienced any of the things you guys are seeing. The picture quality is fantastic and I've yet to even notice that this TV is edge lit (which is surprising because I just came from a Vizio M70-C3 "full array"). I'm using CCsoftball settings, but only the daytime one.

I take it they look ok?

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I take it they look ok?
They look really good for both night and day. Thanks for sharing!
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**Official** Sony X930C / X940C Owners Thread

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Can the 930c Play .Mkv files from a USB port?
Have you tried the VLC player App, I think that will work instead of the default player?
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Can anyone share or link to some recommended some settings? I tried the rtings one and I dont like them. I only really like the default settings on the TV, the rest look dull.
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Can anyone share or link to some recommended some settings? I tried the rtings one and I dont like them. I only really like the default settings on the TV, the rest look dull.
Try my settings listed in this thread. Don't watch in VIVID and expect anything to be as eye catching. However, if you start with my settings and give yourself a few days to train your eyes, I think you will like the results.

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Greetings,

New owner of a 940c and I'm looking to pickup a dedicated streamer, specifically the Roku 4.
Are people still having issues with the Roku 4 or have all the issues been worked out via firmware updates, etc.? I'm specifically concerned about the magenta push with 4K and the overheating issues that I've read about. Would it be wise to stay away from this streamer or should I be good to go using it with the 940c? Are any of you 940c owners using the Roku 4 without issue? Also, can you please recommend settings, both for the Roku and 940c? (i.e., 4K 10 bit, enhanced HDMI, etc.) Thanks.

FWIW, I will not be using an AVR. (Roku --> 940C --> Optical to Soundbar)

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Greetings,

New owner of a 940c and I'm looking to pickup a dedicated streamer, specifically the Roku 4.
Are people still having issues with the Roku 4 or have all the issues been worked out via firmware updates, etc.? I'm specifically concerned about the magenta push with 4K and the overheating issues that I've read about. Would it be wise to stay away from this streamer or should I be good to go using it with the 940c? Are any of you 940c owners using the Roku 4 without issue? Also, can you please recommend settings, both for the Roku and 940c? (i.e., 4K 10 bit, enhanced HDMI, etc.) Thanks.
Not sure if its related buy my X930C out of the box has magenta push from the cable box and even on netflix its VERY noticeable
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Maybe people are expecting too much pop and exaggerated colors, but what I am seeing is a more natural picture with accurate colors. Now I see what everyone else is talking about with Sony TV's (this is my first).

Does that mean that this TV can't produce a vibrant picture with colors that pop? Absolutely not! I've been very impressed with the handful of blu-rays that I have sampled so far. Also, I know I've already mentioned it before, but damn when watching cable the upscaling is superb.
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Ill reserve my thoughts on picture quality till i play with it, ill also post my thoughts on android TV and the interface after a week
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Greetings,

New owner of a 940c and I'm looking to pickup a dedicated streamer, specifically the Roku 4.
Are people still having issues with the Roku 4 or have all the issues been worked out via firmware updates, etc.? I'm specifically concerned about the magenta push with 4K and the overheating issues that I've read about. Would it be wise to stay away from this streamer or should I be good to go using it with the 940c? Are any of you 940c owners using the Roku 4 without issue? Also, can you please recommend settings, both for the Roku and 940c? (i.e., 4K 10 bit, enhanced HDMI, etc.) Thanks.

FWIW, I will not be using an AVR. (Roku --> 940C --> Optical to Soundbar)
What advantage would a Roku 4 give you over built-in apps? I prefer the apps on the 940c.

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Playing around with the settings on tv durring hdr mode from the Samsung 8500 player and notice if I turn on contrast enhance it really brightens up the picture and colors pop more. Is this advised to use this setting or no? I like it most at high.
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Playing around with the settings on tv durring hdr mode from the Samsung 8500 player and notice if I turn on contrast enhance it really brightens up the picture and colors pop more. Is this advised to use this setting or no? I like it most at high.
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Greetings,

New owner of a 940c and I'm looking to pickup a dedicated streamer, specifically the Roku 4.
Are people still having issues with the Roku 4 or have all the issues been worked out via firmware updates, etc.? I'm specifically concerned about the magenta push with 4K and the overheating issues that I've read about. Would it be wise to stay away from this streamer or should I be good to go using it with the 940c? Are any of you 940c owners using the Roku 4 without issue? Also, can you please recommend settings, both for the Roku and 940c? (i.e., 4K 10 bit, enhanced HDMI, etc.) Thanks.

FWIW, I will not be using an AVR. (Roku --> 940C --> Optical to Soundbar)
No fix, the Roku4 still has the magenta push.
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What advantage would a Roku 4 give you over built-in apps? I prefer the apps on the 940c.
The only advantage I'm aware of and the only reason I initially bought one, is the Roku4 has the Vudu app in 4K. The Sony app doesn't.
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The only advantage I'm aware of and the only reason I initially bought one, is the Roku4 has the Vudu app in 4K. The Sony app doesn't.
I would think that eventually it will get an update on our TVs as well. If not, I just won't watch VUDU.

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I just got my 930C on Saturday and I have definitely not experienced any of the things you guys are seeing. The picture quality is fantastic and I've yet to even notice that this TV is edge lit (which is surprising because I just came from a Vizio M70-C3 "full array"). I'm using CCsoftball settings, but only the daytime one.
One surefire way of seeing what I described is the Netflix loading screen. The left and right edges show a vertical band of light about 2 or 3 inches thick on each side
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Greetings,

New owner of a 940c and I'm looking to pickup a dedicated streamer, specifically the Roku 4.
Are people still having issues with the Roku 4 or have all the issues been worked out via firmware updates, etc.? I'm specifically concerned about the magenta push with 4K and the overheating issues that I've read about. Would it be wise to stay away from this streamer or should I be good to go using it with the 940c? Are any of you 940c owners using the Roku 4 without issue? Also, can you please recommend settings, both for the Roku and 940c? (i.e., 4K 10 bit, enhanced HDMI, etc.) Thanks.

FWIW, I will not be using an AVR. (Roku --> 940C --> Optical to Soundbar)
I bought a Roku 4 before I got my 940c, in anticipation of getting a 4K screen. I was watching on an old 42" screen temporarily as I just moved, and the previous home theater setup was sold with the previous house.

The image quality on the 42" screen sucked, but ... it's not like that was going to be a good image quality even with a great source.

I hooked up the Roku to the 940c after it came, and calibrated with a i1d3, The grays were dead on accurate, but the colors had an error which could not be corrected. This was the first screen I ever calibrated, and just assumed that the error was 'normal'. Both my wife and I noticed the error (My wife was unaware of the color error that the meter saw when she first commented on it), and basically it is most obvious as a reddish tint on many skin tones.

I re-calibrated using the internal mp4 player, and found perfect grays (just like roku), with very accurate colors.

A couple of days ago, I posted to this thread asking about this problem, and was suggested that it must be the Roku 4 causing the problem -- I calibrated again with an old AppleTV3 (from my old house), grays were dead on, and colors were just as accurate as the internal player.

Bottom line, the Roku had an uncorrectable color error. I tried it in 1080p, 4k, and 4k 10-bit. All had the same problem. This was Roku 4 -> TV ... no AVR, and no soundbar.

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What advantage would a Roku 4 give you over built-in apps? I prefer the apps on the 940c.
Roku has many apps that the Sony TV does not, just as one notable example, Comedy Central -- but there are many others.
Roku has built in headphone streaming to the remote.
Roku has a faster, more reliable user interface
Roku has a more comfortable remote control
Google is more likely to be spying on what you are watching than Roku, both for their own advertising profit, and 'other reasons' (my opinion).
Sony's interface is ridiculously buggy ... I've had numerous times where the remote stopped responding for a few minutes, or the UI froze up and needed a reboot, and I even had to clear the application data for the Amazon app because it kept crashing when I tried to watch a video.

On the flipside:
Roku has terrible color accuracy, which, combined with the lack of a CMS on the Sony X940c, makes the Roku 4 unusable on such a great screen [in my opinion]. I have moved the Roku 4 to my bedroom, and the old 55" screen here has a CMS which seems able to compensate for the Roku's color error.

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Not sure if its related buy my X930C out of the box has magenta push from the cable box and even on netflix its VERY noticeable
Are you using netflix from your cable box, or are you saying netflix from the Sony built in interface has a magenta push on your screen too?
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Im having a bit of a hard time.

The only picture mode I like is vivid for 4K netflix content. On Cable content the Vivid looks terrible with noise. All the other settings are way to warm. I tried the above settings looks like it puts a dull filter on the screen all the whites look badge.

Out of the box everything has a purple or magenta tone to it(cable and netflix).

It seems to me the js8500 looked much better out of the box. I might be used to over saturated colors?

Cool with Light Sensor Off seems to be better.

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I haven't watched anything on Netflix yet. I'll check it out tonight and see if I encounter any anomalies like you have.

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