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It's possible as I like for the colors to really pop but my issue is more with the brightness than colors. Yesterday I watched Finding Nemo in 3D on my PS4 and there was definitely a difference, im starting to suspect it's either the STB or the AVR thats causing the lack of brightness. When I go to settings the actual menu is twice as bright as the screen.

I will try your settings while watching a bluray and then using the STB directly connected to the TV and then going through the AVR and see if there is any difference. Right now im using the STB going through the denon x3200 and the screen is just too dim even with brightness/gamma raised to max.
If you are watching 3D, you need different settings. That's specifically why I stated that my calibration was for the Apps (Video) setting. With a PS4/gaming, you really need to crank up the settings and use one of the game modes on the TV (I don't use them so someone else will need to help there).

Are there any picture settings on the Denon that change the output video? Have you messed with the internal settings on the blu-ray player or the PS4? I try to leave components at the neutral defaults and change only the settings on the TV is possible. Each component hooked to the Denon probably needs to have calibration done separately. That makes it difficult to only use one input on the TV. Good luck.

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Thumping the screen.
Stop being and frightened and do a simple search like this one:

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-P...an-LCD-Monitor

It was about 4 years ago when I did that little trick so don't ask me where I saw it but there are other sites that use that method or something similar and again it does work if the pixel is alive and not dead.
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What are you guys using for 3d? I'm happy with it overall, but wondering if there is a way to make it pop more. The depth is great.
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I'm using the posted HDR settings for HDR content (the one with color bumped to 65), but what about at night? Watching The Martian the black bars looked too gray so I lowered the Gamma to -2 and the brightness from 50 to 47. Is that about right, or is their a better setting?
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I'm using the posted HDR settings for HDR content (the one with color bumped to 65), but what about at night? Watching The Martian the black bars looked too gray so I lowered the Gamma to -2 and the brightness from 50 to 47. Is that about right, or is their a better setting?
Mine are black. Do you have a 940c?

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Mine are black. Do you have a 940c?
No I have the 930c.
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I'm using the posted HDR settings for HDR content (the one with color bumped to 65), but what about at night? Watching The Martian the black bars looked too gray so I lowered the Gamma to -2 and the brightness from 50 to 47. Is that about right, or is their a better setting?
I lowered my black level until the black bars jusssst became dark. The picture is still vibrant and the blacks are actually black now. Also on a 930c here. I want to say I went from 50 to 36 but I'm not home to check, maybe that's wildly inaccurate.
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I lowered my black level until the black bars jusssst became dark. The picture is still vibrant and the blacks are actually black now. Also on a 930c here. I want to say I went from 50 to 36 but I'm not home to check, maybe that's wildly inaccurate.
Thanks. What about lowering the gamma a tad as well? That seemed to help but I don't know much about gamma so maybe it's best to only lower the black level?
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I lowered my black level until the black bars jusssst became dark. The picture is still vibrant and the blacks are actually black now. Also on a 930c here. I want to say I went from 50 to 36 but I'm not home to check, maybe that's wildly inaccurate.
Part of it may depend on the source. Ender's Game is way too bright. I had to lower gamma and black level. The Martian was spot on with my original settings.

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Thanks. What about lowering the gamma a tad as well? That seemed to help but I don't know much about gamma so maybe it's best to only lower the black level?
Maybe? I'm quite an amateur at this stuff. I'll have to check it out.

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Part of it may depend on the source. Ender's Game is way too bright. I had to lower gamma and black level. The Martian was spot on with my original settings.
I did that when Kingsman was too bright and never cranked it back up before watching The Martian. The Martian still looked spectacular I thought though.
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Maybe? I'm quite an amateur at this stuff. I'll have to check it out.



I did that when Kingsman was too bright and never cranked it back up before watching The Martian. The Martian still looked spectacular I thought though.
I'm finding the HDR settings are much more variable than SDR.

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I've not put much research into this, but have any of you guys noticed a blue half circle light emitting briefly from the bottom of the screen and about quarter way up the screen??? my X930C is doing this every so often and its becoming very annoying. its like pressing the home button on a android phone. same blue colored light.
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My sharpness for hdmi inputs was found to be 25ish when calibrated. I set that for all inputs and video modes I use.
That's about what I set it at.
With low-bit DirecTV HD, setting the Sharpness lower helps remove various artifacts...IOW, the better the source material, the higher the Sharpness can be set.



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Pretty hard to even see a dead pixel, stuck can be seen easier in some cases. Dead/stuck pixels are pretty rare.
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Thanks mate. Appreciate it. Will give that a test after work. I believe the other app that I had put on was designed for touch screens. No wonder it was horrid with the remote control.
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Has anyone tried the recommended settings from rtings.com for the 930C? I know someone said recently they did, but the picture was too dim afterwards. They state the below in regards to their settings and brightness.

"Here are the results of our calibration of the picture for our review of the Sony XBR65X930C. You can apply these settings for every usage (movies, TV shows, sports). You can increase 'Brightness' as much as you want, depending on the amount of light in your room. It won't mess with the calibration. It is the equivalent of the 'Backlight' setting on other TVs."

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Thanks mate. Appreciate it. Will give that a test after work. I believe the other app that I had put on was designed for touch screens. No wonder it was horrid with the remote control.
NP...yup - you probably had the phone version of the app.

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I'm almost contemplating getting a calibration done by Best Buy. Wait before you throw stones! I've used them before on my old LG Plasma and they actually did a pretty good job. Better than I could do anyways. I know it's nowhere near a calibration from the likes of Chad B, but it's also not that expensive. Trying all these picture settings is driving me a little crazy. What do you guys think?

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I'm almost contemplating getting a calibration done by Best Buy. Wait before you throw stones! I've used them before on my old LG Plasma and they actually did a pretty good job. Better than I could do anyways. I know it's nowhere near a calibration from the likes of Chad B, but it's also not that expensive. Trying all these picture settings is driving me a little crazy. What do you guys think?
Do yourself a favor and get a calibration done by someone who is certified, like Chad B. He did my HX929 and he will do my 940D when it gets here.
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Has anyone tried the recommended settings from rtings.com for the 930C? I know someone said recently they did, but the picture was too dim afterwards. They state the below in regards to their settings and brightness.
I started with the RTings settings but made a couple of changes. Colors looked perfect out of the box, so I didn't bother changing that much. I just set picture mode to Custom, set color to "sRGB/bt.709" and set color temperature to Expert 1.

I deviated slightly with the rest. Brightness at 25-30, Contrast at 88, Motionflow set to Custom with Smoothness at 1 and Clearness at 1 (Clearness cuts the light output down by a lot, hence my Brightness setting being so high). Gamma I leave at 0 but sometimes -1. I also turn on Auto Local Dimming to Low.

RTings tends to calibrate really dark, and that might be because they use a really dark room. I find that in my pretty dark living room, I like my brightness up a little because I use LED bias lights.
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Set it and leave it. The bluray discs are fine. The HDR definitely is an upgrade to UHD, probably a bigger change than the resolution...only because the 940c does a GREAT job upscaling.

Thanks, I will just leave it. I agree the TV's upscaling to near 4K to start with can sometimes make the difference between 1080P & 4K resolution

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I upgraded to the 940C. It's a no-brainer if you can swing it.
I was afraid of that. I've exchanged several televisions over the past few years because of dark scene uniformity issues, but the 930c is the most money I've ever put into a TV, about $2500. Every other thing about it is amazing, I just wish the x930c didn't have the weird edge light bleed during certain dark scenes. Funny thing though, The Martian looked fantastic and I didn't really notice it a whole lot. I'm still torn between exchanging it for a different set that has full-array backlight or just keeping it and learning to ignore it. Decisions, decisions.
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Should i change x930c to x930d if the price is the same?
Hate the edge light during the dark scens.
Or do you guys think that the x930d will still have the same problem?
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The X930d is newer tech and has not yet been reviewed enough but if time is ticking away and same pricing then yes I would - just to have an HDR Mode Setting. If you are OCD about light bleed, then only a 940c/d FALD can help.

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Do yourself a favor and get a calibration done by someone who is certified, like Chad B. He did my HX929 and he will do my 940D when it gets here.
Not promoting Best Buy in the slightest, but their calibrators are typically ISF certified. Another alternative to Chad B. is Jeff Meyer at AccuCal (His company). He has done two sets for me in the past with excellent results (My Sony 006 Qualia and a Pioneer plasma) as well as my HT audio system.

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I posted this on another thread but this one has a lot more traffic and members with a larger experience with these TV's...

So here's my dilemma.

For those you have seen the 65x930c and the 65x950b..which do you prefer? I am leaning toward the 930c due to price (about $1000 less) ..

coming from a now DEAD Panasonic 65vt60 Plasma...

BUT I mostly watch movies and just a little of network TV. Not much actual network stuff. ESPN of course. College Football Nut.

Movies #1...Football #2.
The Blacklist is my favorite TV show.

I work 6 days a week so its mostly in the evening watching and at night.

My plan is to get a really great 65 inch TV for the liv room, then later on (probably this time next year) put this in my bedroom and get a 75" for the main liv room.

Who knows tho, those plans may never pan out. I may end up going smaller in the BR thus making this one be the main one for a few years.

Thats a lot of gibberish to say whats the best dang one? hehehehe. Oh I just ordered the Samsung UHD-BD player. But like most here, not much to choose from in movies just yet.

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