Originally Posted by Egghaus
I know it's pretty late to be asking this question, but do you owners think it would be worth it to "upgrade" to a 930C from my current XBR65X850C? I like my 850C but I feel I'm missing out on HDR due to lack of any local dimming. The problem is I enjoy 3D Blu ray so any new TVs are out for me, and I read that the 930D had terrible 3D that Sony refuses to fix. I have seen refurbished 930C's for a good price that offer returns so I don't see it as a huge risk. My sources are a Sony UBP-X800, PS4 Pro, and Amazon Video for HDR.
I'm curious what the market is for the refurbs -- what price would you be looking at, and what's your source?
As far as if this is a good idea or not... As far as image quality goes, I think my screen (940c) screen is amazing ... I spent a lot of time learning how to properly calibrate the screen, and it did make a difference, but overall, everyone who has watched a movie at my place agrees that it is like going to a movie theater.
I don't watch too much 3D, but I will also say that 3D on this screen is also surprisingly good, and basically "theater-like". I think it is probably the best 3D LCD ever made.
It is tricky to calibrate the near-blacks while having the dimming set to "High" -- which ultimately produces OLED-like blacks, but was a fair amount of effort to calibrate. I suspect that the newer 940E is easier to get to superior levels of inky blacks.
There are some downsides to this screen, however -- no Dolby Vision (ever) ... Most likely no Dynamic HDR10 ... No Youtube HDR (VP9 Profile 2) ... The "Smart TV" computer built into the screen is very underpowered. I'm sure that if you already have experience with the 850c, you already realize this.
Personally, my biggest concern with this screen is that I feel that there is a fairly high chance that 3 years from now, most HDR content will be released in a format that this screen does not support (VP9.2 or Dolby Vision).
If I didn't urgently need a new screen, I personally wouldn't be buying anything at all right now, and waiting for the dust to settle on standards, and if I did have to, I would probably consider as the best options: 75" Vizio P-Series, 75" Sony 940E, Refurb 75" 940C.
Hope this helps!
Edited to add: I just noticed you were asking about the 930 (65") not 940.
Keep in mind that the 930c does have "some" local dimming, but IMHO, anything short of FALD will be missing a lot of the benefits of HDR. If 65" is your maximum size, I'd consider the 65" Vizio P-Series. I agree with your comments on the "d" series -- and I would not consider the 930d/940d at all.