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post #14251 of 14301 Old 01-22-2019, 01:03 PM
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Thanks for your answer. I will update to newer firmware. I did look at the Shield HDMI settings which are the only video settings it has. I was using the recommended 4K mode of Rec. 2020 10-bit. I was surprised that there was also a 12-bit version showing and even more surprised that the 940C works on this mode. I thought the 940C only supported 10-bit. Going to 12-bit really brightened up the picture, whites pop more, subjectively feels like max brightness has been raised 10-20%, and the blacks look much blacker. Even on non-HDR material. Darker HDR material is almost viewable when the sun is shining in my room too. So thanks for suggesting I look there, I thought the recommended settings would be the best.

I'll try the firmware update and re-calibration sometime soon.

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Your settings are very odd. Contrast should be set to max (for sure, partly why your picture is dark). The newer firmware definitely has improved HDR. You should probably upgrade and try the settings below to see if it helps. Also, are there settings on the player that can be adjusted? That could cause issues as well.

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Sharpness: 50
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Thanks for your answer. I will update to newer firmware. I did look at the Shield HDMI settings which are the only video settings it has. I was using the recommended 4K mode of Rec. 2020 10-bit. I was surprised that there was also a 12-bit version showing and even more surprised that the 940C works on this mode. I thought the 940C only supported 10-bit. Going to 12-bit really brightened up the picture, whites pop more, subjectively feels like max brightness has been raised 10-20%, and the blacks look much blacker. Even on non-HDR material. Darker HDR material is almost viewable when the sun is shining in my room too. So thanks for suggesting I look there, I thought the recommended settings would be the best.

I'll try the firmware update and re-calibration sometime soon.
I'm happy this helped. If you don't mind, follow up with what you find and maybe others can find it useful as well.

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Hi

Anyone knows if this update will also work with our model x940c?

Maybe our one gets this at a later date or will never get a new update again

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/downloads/00015771
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Anyone knows if this update will also work with our model x940c?

Maybe our one gets this at a later date or will never get a new update again

https://www.sony.com/electronics/sup...loads/00015771

No, it won't work. Even if you try it, the TV will tell you it's not valid for your specific model.

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Thanks for your answer. I will update to newer firmware. I did look at the Shield HDMI settings which are the only video settings it has. I was using the recommended 4K mode of Rec. 2020 10-bit. I was surprised that there was also a 12-bit version showing and even more surprised that the 940C works on this mode. I thought the 940C only supported 10-bit. Going to 12-bit really brightened up the picture, whites pop more, subjectively feels like max brightness has been raised 10-20%, and the blacks look much blacker. Even on non-HDR material. Darker HDR material is almost viewable when the sun is shining in my room too. So thanks for suggesting I look there, I thought the recommended settings would be the best.

I'll try the firmware update and re-calibration sometime soon.
Does changing it to a 12-bit output on the Shield really help brighten or increase the contrast of your HDR picture mode? I am curious to see if you are experiencing the same thing after you update your 940C to the latest available firmware and if your Shield is on the latest firmware (7.2.2) as well. Very curious to see your results and thanks for sharing this.
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Hello all

Can anyone who's owned both the 940c and the z9d give any insight on both TV's performance when it comes to controlling blooming and black bar handling? I've read up on a few z9d posts stating the presence of bad blooming regardless of its backlight master drive.
Does the z9d have any significant improvement over the 940c when it comes to the above mentioned issues?
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Can anyone who's owned both the 940c and the z9d give any insight on both TV's performance when it comes to controlling blooming and black bar handling? I've read up on a few z9d posts stating the presence of bad blooming regardless of its backlight master drive.
Does the z9d have any significant improvement over the 940c when it comes to the above mentioned issues?
That sounds more like comments about the Z9F than Z9D. I do not have experience with the Z9D but everything I have read points to its excellent cinema bar bloom control. The 75" Z9D has over 800 zones vs only 128 in the 940C. The only negative I have read about Backlight Master Drive is it creates a very narrow viewing angle even for LCD standards. To me the 940C has pretty good viewing angle for a FALD VA panel.
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That sounds more like comments about the Z9F than Z9D. I do not have experience with the Z9D but everything I have read points to its excellent cinema bar bloom control. The 75" Z9D has over 800 zones vs only 128 in the 940C. The only negative I have read about Backlight Master Drive is it creates a very narrow viewing angle even for LCD standards. To me the 940C has pretty good viewing angle for a FALD VA panel.
This is good info. 'much appreciated sir
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I've had it set on 10bit for over a year, changing to 12bit was pretty noticeable. Why? That I don't know.

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Does changing it to a 12-bit output on the Shield really help brighten or increase the contrast of your HDR picture mode? I am curious to see if you are experiencing the same thing after you update your 940C to the latest available firmware and if your Shield is on the latest firmware (7.2.2) as well. Very curious to see your results and thanks for sharing this.
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I tried it for a short bit last night. Have a Shield TV on 7.2.2 connected to my Pioneer Elite SC-97 that goes to my 940C on latest firmware. Setting is 422 Rec.2020 12-bit at 59.xx HZ on my Shield instead of the Shield Recommended 10-bit 420 Rec. 2020...I didn't notice any issues but will need to see if anything shows a visible difference. Both modes look amazing in HDR. I left the Shield beta setting of automatic colorimetry to off...Shield with 940c never had issues to me with remapping SDR to HDR color spaces...turning on colorimetry beta option actually makes my Netflix app crash to black screen 100% of the time for some odd reason. Beta for a reason...

Will test some stuff later to see if anything pops out. Can't hurt to leave it at this setting as I haven't seen any issues yet so why not be at 12-bit. 422 if anything can possibly means more detail in luminance than the 420 so more is better right?

EDIT: Found this site with some comparisons of 422 to 420. Source media is a factor but something interesting nonetheless.

https://www.ntt-electronics.com/en/i...d-video-codec/

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[QUOTE=kronan;57012286]I have a xbr75x940c, the picture flashes black randomly (sound stays on and TV is on) sometimes 5 or more in a row, (the flashes to black are 1 to 2 seconds long)sometime it will stay on for a few min. occasionally it will turn off and I get 4 red flashes on the led indicator, any idea what I can do, my local repair shop says 850.00 to "possibly" fix it...I am fairly savy and could possibly replace some parts if need be, sony was no help..
thank you...I did just order a85" 900F so I can take my time with the repair on the 940c[/QUOTE

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That sounds more like comments about the Z9F than Z9D. I do not have experience with the Z9D but everything I have read points to its excellent cinema bar bloom control. The 75" Z9D has over 800 zones vs only 128 in the 940C. The only negative I have read about Backlight Master Drive is it creates a very narrow viewing angle even for LCD standards. To me the 940C has pretty good viewing angle for a FALD VA panel.
This is good info. 'much appreciated sir
My experience so far is that the 940c has a better viewing angle than the Z.

Blooming in cinema bars on the Z definitely exists but it has noticibly better blooming control overall.

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I want to hang my 940c on the wall. Anyone know if there is a special bracket for it, or will any general bracket do?
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I want to hang my 940c on the wall. Anyone know if there is a special bracket for it, or will any general bracket do?
Any wall mount that matches the vesa pattern and that can hold the weight should work.

It is heavy. I decided to use an articulating mount so that I could access the back easily. It has come in handy.
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Any wall mount that matches the vesa pattern and that can hold the weight should work.

It is heavy. I decided to use an articulating mount so that I could access the back easily. It has come in handy.
"Vesa Pattern"? Do I search for that phrase specifically?
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I've had my 930C for about 2 years on this mount with no problems whatsoever. It's pretty easy to set up, sturdy and is full motion

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My 940c is the 75". I need a good mount for it. Any recommendations?
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"Vesa Pattern"? Do I search for that phrase specifically?
If you look in the specification sheet or the manual it should be listed. It will be something like VESA 400x300. It basically defines the distance between the mounting holes on the back of the TV. The specifications for any wall mount should also list the sizes they support.

Also, if you search this thread for mount you should find specific models listed that people are using. This question comes up somewhat frequently.

EDIT: I am using this one: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=12280

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My 940c is the 75". I need a good mount for it. Any recommendations?
I have mine on this one - works great and the articulating arm is awesome.

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My 940c is the 75". I need a good mount for it. Any recommendations?
late reply - but I used the Omnimount ULPC-X - low profile holds up to 250lbs.. great mount if you can locate one.. we pull out our 75" 940c all the time and rotate. The unit is a tank!

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Over the past year, I'm not sure exactly when it began or after which FW update, my panel has developed a flicker across the top 1/3 of the screen during initial 3-D playback from an Oppo 203 via a Marantz 8802A into the 940C's ARC HDMI port. I say "initial" because I have found a remedy for it that includes rebooting the Sony and restarting all 3 components. Incidentally, we use Panasonic VIERA TY-ER3D4MU Active Shutter 3D glasses. Anyone else have this issue or are aware of a thread discussing it somewhere?
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Over the past year, I'm not sure exactly when it began or after which FW update, my panel has developed a flicker across the top 1/3 of the screen during initial 3-D playback from an Oppo 203 via a Marantz 8802A into the 940C's ARC HDMI port. I say "initial" because I have found a remedy for it that includes rebooting the Sony and restarting all 3 components. Incidentally, we use Panasonic VIERA TY-ER3D4MU Active Shutter 3D glasses. Anyone else have this issue or are aware of a thread discussing it somewhere?
I haven’t, but have you tried isolating the guilty party? I would suggest trying thr Oppo direct and even a different 3D player to make sure it is the 940c that is the culprit.

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Over the past year, I'm not sure exactly when it began or after which FW update, my panel has developed a flicker across the top 1/3 of the screen during initial 3-D playback from an Oppo 203 via a Marantz 8802A into the 940C's ARC HDMI port. I say "initial" because I have found a remedy for it that includes rebooting the Sony and restarting all 3 components. Incidentally, we use Panasonic VIERA TY-ER3D4MU Active Shutter 3D glasses. Anyone else have this issue or are aware of a thread discussing it somewhere?
Same here with 3D files over AppleTV 4K (Infuse / MrMC) on HDMI 3. It's not only flickering in the upper third of the screen, the 3D is also not working correctly. Rebooting the TV helps, but it is nevertheless very annoying. Haven't yet tried another HDMI port or direct play via a TV app – will do so and report back.
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New update released yesterday. Anyone try it out yet?
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New update released yesterday. Anyone try it out yet?
Appears to be an Android security update. I installed it today on my 940C and nothing readily apparent seems to have changed.

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Appears to be an Android security update. I installed it today on my 940C and nothing readily apparent seems to have changed.


Same here. No change. All settings seem fine as well.


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Your settings are very odd. Contrast should be set to max (for sure, partly why your picture is dark). The newer firmware definitely has improved HDR.
Can anybody be more specific about HDR picture improvements? Did you made any calibration measurements about this? I`m really don`t believe in sony engineers (after I did saw what they did with good Android TV idea) and do afraid that they can broke HDR experience with newer FW...

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Can anybody be more specific about HDR picture improvements? Did you made any calibration measurements about this? I`m really don`t believe in sony engineers (after I did saw what they did with good Android TV idea) and do afraid that they can broke HDR experience with newer FW...
loll they broke HDR again, hdmi dynamic range has to be set limited when in HDR video mode, else picture goes dim n fuzzy(whitewash), when set to limited colours are nice n bright and sharp

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