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Just bought a Sony 4k tv... black uniformity

So, I've had my 55 Samsung plasma for a few years now, I love it in every way. We moved and I have room in the bedroom and living room for a couple tvs but they need to be 50 or less in size so I bought the XBR49X830C from sony. Now the last time I bought an LED tv I was so turned off by the horrible black uniformity and bad viewing angles I took it back for my plasma I have now. Since I can't buy new plasmas anymore (so bummed) I went for the Sony 4k with all the good reviews. I turned it on and loved it on the first 4k video I watched. Th en I put a movie on and I wanted to throw my remote at it. In a dark room all I could see is the white/blue black areas.... it was so bad even my wife who usually could care less said it was ugly. And from watching at a slight angle it was even worse it's very washed out if the scene isn't lit well.

Any recommendations on something 50 inch or less around 1k or less? I am 0 for 2 on led tvs.
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I find some of the reviews questionable but check out http://www.rtings.com/. I understand the struggles of replacing a plasma on a budget. You get spoiled by rich blacks. You can search by size, brand, feature (like black uniformity) and more using rtings. From a budget perspective (and what I've been researching given that I'm also replacing a plasma) The Samsung J6300 or Vizio M series might hit your requirements.

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Interesting as I am pretty sure that unit uses an IPS screen and off angle will be the best you can get with LCD. On the other hand the IPS screens do not have the best blacks. The uniformity issues come from it being an edge lit set. Post some pics and we can tell you if it is to much or what is average.

I have the same unit coming to me for a work project suppose to be delivered tomorrow so I can tell you what I see also.

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Thanks for the relies, I saw both the edge lit led info and the ips so I figured it might be ok nowadays. If the picture is well lit it has a good viewing angle but if it at all dark, say watching lord of the Rings or dark knight something like that, you see a haze when you take just a couple steps left or right. It first hit me because I was eating in the kitchen and I could barely make out the picture I couldn't believe it. Now I was using a custom picture setup using the cinema home option and that true motion off. I'll try to get some pictures tomorrow I will be at work until then.

I remember reading that using maybe a projector setup would be an idea but these rooms are my smaller rooms.
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Good luck! I had a heck of a time finding a TV with good black uniformity and no clouding. Your best best is probably a model with some sort of local dimming. After returning several TVs, I got a Samsung JU7100 and kept it. It's not perfect, but it's the best I could find at a reasonable price.

I wouldn't trust the black uniformity tests on Rtings.com. I think it's mostly a crapshoot, and you either get lucky or you don't. They reviewed the J6300 and gave it excellent uniformity marks. I had two different ones and they both had very visible clouding. OTOH, they gave so-so reviews to the J7100, but mine is great.

As for viewing angle....all the LEDs suck.
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The TV you have is one of the models I've kept an eye on here and at review sites because 1.) I like Sony gear and 2.) it also meets my space requirements. Unfortunately, from everything I've seen on this forum and at the review sites, the IPS panels Sony uses in the 830 series just have very poor contract and thus gray/milky blacks. That's a shame, really.
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Yeah to be honest this is my first Sony product and the size is perfect on my bedroom wall I have 50 inches from each door, and when I got the tv I instantly had high hopes, it looks fantastic and the options, menu's everything was great until I saw a few dark scenes in those movies I was so disappointed. Then again I'm picky, spending money like that I expect things like that to be a thing of the past. I might just try some more out and see what I can deal with the most.
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Yeah to be honest this is my first Sony product and the size is perfect on my bedroom wall I have 50 inches from each door, and when I got the tv I instantly had high hopes, it looks fantastic and the options, menu's everything was great until I saw a few dark scenes in those movies I was so disappointed. Then again I'm picky, spending money like that I expect things like that to be a thing of the past. I might just try some more out and see what I can deal with the most.
Well with your size restraints you will have some issues. I can tell you this nothing else you get will be better from side angle viewing than the IPS screen you have. The 48" Samsung which I have is absolutely terrible from a side view and black levels are just so so.

Maybe the Samsung JS7000 in a 50" if you can squeeze it in, I think it has fald may be better blacks but not sure if you will like the off angle viewing at all.

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Man hearing all these replies...I have a 55 inch 1080P rca I paid 400 for and it has amazing contrast and black levels..I have owned sony and samsung...and these new tv's leave alot to be desired...imo.

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P.S. edge lit tv's need to dissapear aswell.

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Yeah I'm a little frustrated that I can almost spend a thousand dollars on a 49 inch tv and have the same problem I had with the one I tried in 2010. Now I don't have any plasmas to choose from and dlp or projectors won't do it for what I need. I have the 73 Mitsubishi dlp in our great room btw. Fantastic tv!
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Another annoying thing I noticed, it was night I had just a small light on in the room and when the movie was playing credits were up on the screen and you can see the whole screen get brighter when letters were displayed. Maybe I'm too picky lol?
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Samsung JS8500 48" will solve all of the issues you're having.
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