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I am considering the purchase of a P75-C1 but am concerned about some of the lukewarm reviews I've read about the Vizio's scaling engine. These reviews probably won't stop me though, so I'm trying to get some advice in advance about the best way to work with (or around, if necessary) the Vizio's scaling engine when watching cable television.

I have an Xfinity X1 DVR--a third generation Pace, to be precise. Because this STB has no native setting for video resolution (I miss my DCX3400 in this regard), I currently set it to output at 720p--the source resolution Comcast uses the most, now that the company has downscaled and deinterlaced all of its channels to 720p, with the exception of a few local broadcasts. Of the three alternatives below (or any others you can think of), what is the best way to upscale from 720p?

1. Keep the X1 set to 720p (the most "native" setting) and let the Vizio do all of the upscaling? I presume this would be the right choice if, notwithstanding the negative reviews of the Vizio's scaler, it's still better than the one in the X1.

2. Set the X1 to 1080p, and let the X1 do the upscaling? This would be the right choice if the reviews aren't exaggerated--the Vizio really does have a problem upscaling 720p and the X1 would do a better job.

3. Use an external scaler to upscale to 1080p? This is a possible alternative. I have a 5 year-old Elite SC-57 that uses a Marvell QDEO chip. Old now, but decent for its time. But, this alternative would be an improvement only if the Marvell, despite its age, is still a better scaler than the chips in either the X1 or the Vizio. I'm not quite ready to upgrade my AVR yet, because currently no AVR I'm aware of supports Dolby Vision. So, I'm waiting for now.

I'd appreciate any help from those of you who have had success processing Xfinity-sourced video.
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Then go here and download the app:

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Hi all,

I am looking at getting the P65-C1 after trying the LG 60UH7650, LG 65UH6150, Sammy 65KS8000, Sony XBR65-850D, and the LG 70UH6350. Each of the previous TV's have light bleeding or horizontal columns whenever a white image displayed on a dark screen. I can't see myself paying $1000-2000 for something that I'm not 100% satisfied with.

Do you think the Full Array Vizio would look better with less "bleeding"? There is one at Best Buy "open box" for ~$1500. I'm really itching to try this out as I have not tried a Vizio yet. If it's a keeper, I would purchase a warranty through Squaretrade as I previously was unaware I could do so without actually buying the TV from Sam's or Costco.

I don't do cable as I have access to most apps that require a login. My favorite apps are Amazon, Netflix, NBC Sports Extra, Fox Sports Go, and Watch ESPN. I have an antennae that I use for watching local and national unfiltered content, and I do not mind purchasing an OTA coax to HDMI dvr box. I also have a PS4 Pro and Amazon Instant Video is installed so I assume it will work? Thanks

Should I pull the trigger?

Also, anyone try KODI on this TV yet?

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"I am looking at getting the P65-C1 ...
Each of the previous TV's have light bleeding
or horizontal columns whenever a
white image displayed on a dark screen."

Do you think the Full Array Vizio
would look better with less "bleeding"?"


If your other TVs are not Full-Array, then I
believe that Vizio P65 would dance circles
around those and most other non-Full-Array Displays.
The 'Light-Bleeders' are typically your Edge-Lit
panels, save few high-end models.

Do I miss my old M40 Unit's Light Bleeding? No.

It's Fool-a-Ray-All-The Way, baby!

"Also, anyone try KODI on this TV yet?"

It's known that Kodi 17 (Krypton), Complete Kodi Setup Wizard, and the AllCast App work fine together.



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"I am looking at getting the P65-C1 ...
Each of the previous TV's have light bleeding
or horizontal columns whenever a
white image displayed on a dark screen."

Do you think the Full Array Vizio
would look better with less "bleeding"?"


If your other TVs are not Full-Array, then I
believe that Vizio P65 would dance circles
around those and most other non-Full-Array Displays.
The 'Light-Bleeders' are typically your Edge-Lit
panels, save few high-end models.

Do I miss my old M40 Unit's Light Bleeding? No.

It's Fool-a-Ray-All-The Way, baby!

"Also, anyone try KODI on this TV yet?"

It's known that Kodi 17 (Krypton), Complete Kodi Setup Wizard, and the AllCast App work fine together.



.[/QUOTE CC]

Thanks. I'm going to try it out. I really liked the Sony cause I could download Kodi directly to its Android operating system and stream 4k content. I will post updates soon
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An Update to

Post Number 1

In This Vizio Tablet Thread

With XR6P10 Tablet Details and

A Vizio SmartCast Link - FAQs and Info





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An Update to

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In This Vizio Tablet Thread

With XR6P10 Tablet Details and

A Vizio SmartCast Link - FAQs and Info





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BTW, your font cannot be read on a phone.. too small... I need a magnifying glass.
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12 Colors? That sounds like a mis-adjusted monitor?
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Quick question for your Vizio owners.

I'm now on my 2nd Vizio P65-C1. The first one I returned as it had dark spots in a few locations on the screen. It didn't look like burn out pixels but instead something caught between the "glass" and the LCD panel.

With my second P65 screen, having run a panel test on Youtube, I notice about 4 stuck pixels (showing magenta on a white screen).

I realize that there are millions of pixels, and maybe I'm being picky....but it really bugs me that when I run the same test on my 4 year old Samsung 1080p or my buddy's new 4K KU6290 (both about 1/3 the price new), they have ZERO dead pixels or stuck pixels.

I feel like getting a brand new TV with stuck pixels is like getting a brand new car from the dealer with a scratch in the door. Yes, I accept that some of the pixels might stop working over time, but is it too much to ask for them to be all working at the start?

Does Vizio have a quality control problem?

Am I being too picky?

Just wondering how many of you have tested your panels and whether you have stuck/dead pixels or have I just been really unlucky so far in the panel lottery. Wish these things were Korean made...but maybe they wouldn't be so cost effective if they were.
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Quick question for your Vizio owners.

I'm now on my 2nd Vizio P65-C1. The first one I returned as it had dark spots in a few locations on the screen. It didn't look like burn out pixels but instead something caught between the "glass" and the LCD panel.

With my second P65 screen, having run a panel test on Youtube, I notice about 4 stuck pixels (showing magenta on a white screen).

I realize that there are millions of pixels, and maybe I'm being picky....but it really bugs me that when I run the same test on my 4 year old Samsung 1080p or my buddy's new 4K KU6290 (both about 1/3 the price new), they have ZERO dead pixels or stuck pixels.

I feel like getting a brand new TV with stuck pixels is like getting a brand new car from the dealer with a scratch in the door. Yes, I accept that some of the pixels might stop working over time, but is it too much to ask for them to be all working at the start?

Does Vizio have a quality control problem?

Am I being too picky?

Just wondering how many of you have tested your panels and whether you have stuck/dead pixels or have I just been really unlucky so far in the panel lottery. Wish these things were Korean made...but maybe they wouldn't be so cost effective if they were.
Do you have a link for the test? Get another tv if it's bothering you. If that's got issues get your money back .

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Quick question for your Vizio owners.

I'm now on my 2nd Vizio P65-C1. The first one I returned as it had dark spots in a few locations on the screen. It didn't look like burn out pixels but instead something caught between the "glass" and the LCD panel.

With my second P65 screen, having run a panel test on Youtube, I notice about 4 stuck pixels (showing magenta on a white screen).

I realize that there are millions of pixels, and maybe I'm being picky....but it really bugs me that when I run the same test on my 4 year old Samsung 1080p or my buddy's new 4K KU6290 (both about 1/3 the price new), they have ZERO dead pixels or stuck pixels.

I feel like getting a brand new TV with stuck pixels is like getting a brand new car from the dealer with a scratch in the door. Yes, I accept that some of the pixels might stop working over time, but is it too much to ask for them to be all working at the start?

Does Vizio have a quality control problem?

Am I being too picky?

Just wondering how many of you have tested your panels and whether you have stuck/dead pixels or have I just been really unlucky so far in the panel lottery. Wish these things were Korean made...but maybe they wouldn't be so cost effective if they were.
I believe they have a no bright pixel policy. Replace it if it bothers you... especially if you see it while playing real content.
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Welp, I waited out the 90-day return period on my M55 in hopes that the U. S.-based Costco warehouses would start carrying the P-series sets, but alas no dice, so I just pulled the trigger on a P50 at a discounted price via Costco.com. Time to pack up the M55 and get it back to my local warehouse by Monday.
You sound like me! I played the "Return Policy Game" like a boss between BB, Costco, and Sam's from Decmeber 2016 to February 2017

There is a running joke with friends and family who come over to the house where they constantly ask "Are you gonna keep this one?". I'm so glad that I took the time and effort and scored an awesome P65-C1.

Do you already have your P50 or is it is shipping to you? Congrats BTW
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I had one incident of video breakup during the "The Iron Fist" recently.

I'll be doing a Factory Reset today.

I have not done so since the 3.0.14.0 Firmware Release.

Also, I downloaded/installed the newest NetFlix and SmartCast Apps.



Display: P50-C1.





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I had one incident of video breakup during the "The Iron Fist" recently.

I'll be doing a Factory Reset today.

I have not done so since the 3.0.14.0 Firmware Release.

Also, I downloaded/installed the newest NetFlix and SmartCast Apps.



Display: P50-C1.





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Ouch, that is terrible. Have you noticed the breaking up while casting from any other apps besides Netflix?
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Ouch, that is terrible. Have you noticed the breaking
up while casting from any other apps besides Netflix?


Well, I Cast YouTube and a few other items, but by far the majority
of my Casting is from NetFlix. I've only seen it on NetFlix, but
could've it happened at that moment if I was Casting YouTube or
something else? I dunno.

So, did NetFlix have any part in the cause? I dunno.

Signed,

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(It's been ok since... so far.)


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Well, it did again the other night - while Casting NetFlix.

The breakup was not severe enough for me to stop since I had
only about 5 minutes remaining to finish the program.

I never see a breakup when watching my daily news/sports segments
via my Sony DVR. Seems to be only with Streaming, but I only Stream
NetFlix. Would it happen with other Streaming content? I dunno until I
find something else to test (without co$t).

I did a Factory Reset soon after, so I'll see how it goes from here.




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You sound like me! I played the "Return Policy Game" like a boss between BB, Costco, and Sam's from Decmeber 2016 to February 2017

There is a running joke with friends and family who come over to the house where they constantly ask "Are you gonna keep this one?". I'm so glad that I took the time and effort and scored an awesome P65-C1.

Do you already have your P50 or is it is shipping to you? Congrats BTW
We sound exactly alike, precisely what I did and what my lady was saying to me, haha!

Yep, have had my P50 for a while now, got it via Costco.com when they briefly had if pop up on their website and glad I did, it still hasn't made it to my local warehouse yet.
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I believe they have a no bright pixel policy. Replace it if it bothers you... especially if you see it while playing real content.
Correct... if you have a bright pixel and it bothers you... please call our support and we will take care of it.
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Hello Matt. Just got my new Vizio P65-C1. I love it so far. I have noticed though it has a few dark spots on it. Mainly 2 that I can see so far. It also has 2 dead pixels. Should I be concerned about them. The dark spots are about and 1/8 in diameter. Doesn't look like dead pixels. They are just dark.

Thanks for any help you can provide
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Hello Matt. Just got my new Vizio P65-C1. I love it so far. I have noticed though it has a few dark spots on it. Mainly 2 that I can see so far. It also has 2 dead pixels. Should I be concerned about them. The dark spots are about and 1/8 in diameter. Doesn't look like dead pixels. They are just dark.



Thanks for any help you can provide


Please remember Matt is not CS if you have issues pick up the phone and call Vizio to report the issues.

For the dark spots of you knock lightly on them they may go away (if they are debris). Otherwise as I said previously call Vizio or set up an exchange with the retailer you bought it from.
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Please remember Matt is not CS if you have issues pick up the phone and call Vizio to report the issues.

For the dark spots of you knock lightly on them they may go away (if they are debris). Otherwise as I said previously call Vizio or set up an exchange with the retailer you bought it from.
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I just went through a horrible experience with Sharp. 4 TVs and they were all damaged in small ways. They eventually bought the TV back and gave me some extra on top of the buy back. But everytime, they claimed that this is a new TV. And each TV had small pixel problems. I eventually decided that maybe I was being too picky with the TVs. So I don't want to go through the same experience again. Close to 6 weeks without a TV and having a new Playstation Pro and an Xbox One S that I couldn't play was horrible.

So I was mainly just asking if ALL TVs will have defects like this. Small black patches and dead pixels. Because if they do, then I will live with it just to have a TV. Im still thrilled with the TV no matter what. Just the small patches are easier to see than the dead pixels because they are larger. I don't have any live pixels though. As was mentioned here this forum, a few dead pixels out of millions is actually really good. Just didn't know if the small black patches were common among all the TVs too.

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They shouldn't have black spots. @beeson76 it may be best to go to the owners thread and ask questions there (make sure to post pictures). My advice is to contact Vizio if they are visible in all content or set up an exchange where you bought it.
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Question for the P-Series owners/gurus out there. I picked up a open-box clearance P50-C1 yesterday which was missing the non-tablet remote. In looking at the manual, it does not appear that the remote has any capabilities to access any advanced settings, which appear to be accessible only via the tablet remote. Is that correct? I ask because I couldn't find any commands in the Harmony device database for my Harmony remote. Thanks.

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Question for the P-Series owners/gurus out there. I picked up a open-box clearance P50-C1 yesterday which was missing the non-tablet remote. In looking at the manual, it does not appear that the remote has any capabilities to access any advanced settings, which appear to be accessible only via the tablet remote. Is that correct? I ask because I couldn't find any commands in the Harmony device database for my Harmony remote. Thanks.
If you have an iOS or Android smartphone or tablet, download the Vizio Smartcast app, and you will be set. Once set up, you will be able to cast Netflix, etc., through that device.

Also, you should be receiving a firmware update soon that will give Harmony and older Vizio "clicker" remotes access to all setup functions -- and later this Summer we will get on-screen "apps" for things like Netflix, etc.
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Part 2: Why is color Volume Important ?


Hey my friends, it’s me again.

I just wanted to let you know that I finally finished the second part of my Color Volume article – which is post #2 in my “What is Color Volume?” thread. If you haven’t done so already, I would like to invite you to first read the first part of my article – which is post #1 in that thread.

>LINK: What is Color Volume ?<

I also made further improvements to the first part (post #1 ) of my article, adding more information, including more pics and illustrations. I also added a lengthy Quote from professional colorist Stephen Nakamura to the HDR section.

Stephen Nakamura is a colorist with "Company 3" in LA, who has worked with really high profile directors and cinematographers and knows more about HDR than most people. He has graded in HDR movies like Exodus: Gods and Kings (the first ever movie to be HDR graded); Tomorrowland (Disney’s first HDR grade and a movie made for the format); The Martian; and Joy.

Click the LINK above, or in my signature below, to go to the article.

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