Originally Posted by rolldog
I bought a P75-c1 last year, and I think it's great. I read an article today about the 2017 versions of the M Series, since they're the only model getting a makeover. From what I read, they said the 2017 Vizio M Series (XLED/XOLED whatever term Samsung is using) increases the nits, the sharp colors, the blacks share still truly black, thanks to FALD), when put side to side comparing the new 2017 Vizio XLED and the Samsung XLED, which is an edge lit panel, the Vizio looked much better than Samsung's Quantum Dot flagship. They referenced some scenes including bright vivid colors along with really deep blacks and said the new 2017 Vizio M series, which starts sat $800 looked much better than the Samsung set. The Samsung set, with both backs and vivid colors on the screen at the same time created greyish lines in the areas which should have been true black and Fall was the reason the Vizio looked better at a MUCH lower price.
Not only this, but it seems like Vizio had to remanufacture the M Series sets to be able to produce the same color gambit/local dimming as the P series, but all of their P Series will be updated with the same firmware to increase the image production because all the sets already have the hardware to do this.
Another feature I read that will be added to the 2016 and 2017 sets this summer are local apps so streaming from the tablet that came with it/your phone/etc, won't be needed to cast content anymore. All the streaming video apps with be added to the TV's firmware, which would be great.
I'm just wondering if anyone has seen the Vizio set in person and can compare the picture quality to the 2016 sets. If the quality is as good as I've read, then the 2016 sets should produce the same quality once that firmware is rolled out, I just don't have the capability to compare the 2017 and 2016 sets side by side to see how much of an improvement it is.
I bought a new house a few weeks ago to live in while my current house is being remodeled, and I need to buy some new TVs for most of the rooms. The P75-c1 is currently my main TV, which is in the living room, but I've already bought an LG W7 to replace it with, mostly because of the increased brightness of the W7 and the "check this **** out" factor. I'd really like to know if what I read about the 2017 Vizio sets beingan improvement over the 2016 sets is true, if it is, then I'm definitely going shopping for some. I still need a TV for the outdoor kitchen/living area, and I want to get something bright since it'll be outside. If the new Vizio really put out a lot more brightness like I've read, there it might work. I was considering the Samsung, but if the new Vizio can produce a brighter image without getting washed out, then that might be my best bet.
Sorry for the long post! I just had a lot to explain and I need to make some decisions within the next couple of days, so if anyone can clarify the better quality of the 2017 Vizio set over the 2016 sets, or might have other options I should look at instead, I would be truly grateful.
The 2017 M series will have a similar full screen brightness to the current generation, about 350 nits. It should have 600 nit peaks, which the 2016 model couldn't achieve. The new M will have wide color gamut, similar to the P series.
It only has 32 led zones, compared to the 64 in the current model. I think it should be a great budget display, and it'll be better for HDR than 2016 models.
The Vizio P 2017 is exactly the same as the 2016 model. And the 2016 units will receive the same firmware update, so they will have identical performance. Samsung launched their 'QLED' displays, Vizio branded their FALD backlight XLED.
Also read through this thread for someone who has been at the presentation: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...-displays.html
For a very bright room, I wouldn't go with an M. The P series might be ok, as it can reach up to 500-600 nits, but you may be happier with a KS8000 for a really bright environment.