I figured I would try for the 50,000 post with something that has bugged me for a very long time. That is upscaling and the misrepresentation of its benefits. RTINGS.com has claimed that every single Vizio TV has substandard upscaling for both 480p and 720p.
The rating for this one single category(upscaling) effects pretty much all of the other scores for the TVs rated on RTINGs.com. This is because most of the top level categories he rates the TVs based on have 480p and 720p upscaling as a significant component. This in effect compounds the weighting of upscaling because it is used in multiple categories.
For instance his “TV shows” category gives 720p and 480p a 12% and 8% weighting respectively. My DIRECTV device doesn’t even offer 480p as an option for output. It is literally not even capable of outputting 480p. This isn’t an old device either. It is the new 4K mini client.
It makes no sense to rate a display for TV shows or sports based on how well it does with 480p. Virtually nothing is broadcast in 480p anymore.
On top of that I performed an experiment to see how my P75 would react to outputting the TV shows I watch in a non-native format. I wanted to see if I took a true 4K show from DIRECTV and output it at 720p instead to my P75 would you be able to tell the difference?
DIRECTV now has 4K/UHD channels. There are only 3 of them but they are true UHD without HDR headers. First, I setup the DIRECTV genie mini devices to output at UHD resolution.
This is what that looks like. You can see in the top of the screen that my P75 is seeing 2160p native from the Genie mini.
Next, I eliminated 1080i, 1080p, and 4K from the output choices leaving only 720p as an output option. Here is what that looks like in 720p. Note that the TV is now showing it is receiving a downscaled 720p signal from the original 4k/UHD sourced material.
The interesting thing is that you honestly can’t see a difference in the resolution at all. They are identical. The reason for this is that even the highest end professional cameras really struggle to resolve much past 1400 lines of detail in the video they capture. Then on top of that compression can further degrade the true resolvable resolution down to as low as 800 lines of true resolution.
Now the curious thing is actually the colors. It is striking how different the colors look between 720p and 4k/UHD even though this is not WCG HDR content. This is still in the REC.709 domain even for the 4K sourced material.
So all of this talk about don’t buy a Vizio TV for regular TV content is just another “alternative fact”. There literally is no difference detail wise at all. You may imagine that there is but it is easily proven that there isn’t a difference for regular TV content.
Honestly, it is so wrong that this fallacy has been allowed to propagate for so long. DIRECTV looks just as good on the Vizio TVs I have had as it did on the Samsung JS850 I once had. I don’t understand why Vizio hasn’t addressed this with RTINGs.com yet.
Honestly, this P75 is truly a fantastic display. It doesn’t offer the absolute best picture quality(OLED wins there) but for the price the picture quality, features, and processing is SOOOO much better than it should be.
Everyone knows I had issues with several P75 TVs failing for a variety of reasons. However, in the end Vizio made it right. They got me a P75 that I am completely satisfied with(Knock on Wood). The P75 I have now just flat out works.
I have posted for a while because quite honestly I have no complaints about my P75 at the moment. None at all. I just simply enjoy watching it.
I hope in the future the Vizio will get more credit for the product they produce. It is outstanding but it is rare that someone outside of this thread describes it that way.