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Has HDR been enabled for the shield? I've not found any news of that update being sent out yet -

So until the TV gets its update for HDR-10, you'll want to do your viewing through casting to get HDR from Netflix and Vudu
You are correct, I swore I saw it in the update notes but I was mistaken. In any case we know the SHIELD fully supports a software upgradable port to HDMI 2.0a. Hopefully it will be pushed out soon
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You are correct, I swore I saw it in the update notes but I was mistaken. In any case we know the SHIELD fully supports a software upgradable port to HDMI 2.0a. Hopefully it will be pushed out soon
So many pieces of equipment waiting for that 2.0a upgrade, including my AVR which was suppose to have it in Feb.

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Dear owners, Does the P series do 3D? And how do you play HDR10 UHD Blu-rays since the set is D-Vision only.
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You are correct. (editing the post and page 1.)

Vizio states:

HDMI 1-4 support the following:

[email protected] 4:4:4, up to 8bit per color
[email protected] 4:2:2, up to 12bit per color
[email protected] 4:2:0, up to 12 bit per color


HDMI 5 is a low latency (gaming) port that supports:

[email protected], 4:2:0, up to 10bit per color
[email protected], 4:4:4, up to 10bit per color
~15ms latency in game mode
Isn't this on their website? If so they should change the above to: [email protected] 4:2:2 at 8bit or 12bit per color

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Dear owners, Does the P series do 3D? And how do you play HDR10 UHD Blu-rays since the set is D-Vision only.
3D, no...HDR10 is coming via an update in 90-120 days from launch.

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Dear owners, Does the P series do 3D? And how do you play HDR10 UHD Blu-rays since the set is D-Vision only.


No to 3D, and you play them just like you would on any TV. The difference being that you will NOT see HDR encodes until the update for HDR10 is pushed out to the TVs (90-120 days from launch).
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Isn't this on their website? If so they should change the above to: [email protected] 4:2:2 at 8bit or 12bit per color
Not sure... Matt McRae originally posted it on the thread.
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So I sold the M80 to a lucky guy out there that got a screaming good deal on a HUGE TV. But in the end I think the P75 is the right TV for my needs.
Just sold mine this am.... I loved my M but this is a seriously great upgrade.
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I have a 50" 1080P Samsung plasma that I sit 9 feet from. I've been wanting a larger screen for a long long time. I love how my plasma looks (I just want a larger movie-like screen). So I'm not sure if I'd be happier with a 65" P series that I could get now or wait for a 2016 70" M series to be released. It will be a long time before my next tv so I want one with a great picture and a big screen on a $2000 budget. Opinions? Thanks.
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So I played panel lottery and the second set is considerably better; to the point where to notice the banding or DSE one would have to watch the TV from an extreme angle. On the first TV it was driving me nuts while watching hockey or soccer. The second one I seldom notice it and when I do it is negligible to the point where it doesn't bother me at all.
That's great you're happy with your replacement. I think what's tough about this is it's very subjective. You seldom notice on your new set, only really at extreme angles, and when you do it's negligible and doesn't bother you. Again, not denying that, just saying that it's possible our definitions of negligible are different and angles are difficult since once person's view of extreme is different from another. I think it would be helpful to say at x feet back and y feet to the left/right I start to see slight banding on a white background for instance so there is some basis for comparison. But again, people's tolerance/perception varies greatly. Any pictures/videos are difficult too since we all know how they can exaggerate/underplay issues based on how it's captured. The only real way is to compare yourself, which you did, and see if you notice a difference. I only bring this up because I feel like what typically happens is people play the panel lottery, and often times you end up with a new set with a new host of issues you never had before and it becomes a long, tiring game where you may or may not win.
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That's great you're happy with your replacement. I think what's tough about this is it's very subjective. You seldom notice on your new set, only really at extreme angles, and when you do it's negligible and doesn't bother you. Again, not denying that, just saying that it's possible our definitions of negligible are different and angles are difficult since once person's view of extreme is different from another. I think it would be helpful to say at x feet back and y feet to the left/right I start to see slight banding on a white background for instance so there is some basis for comparison. But again, people's tolerance/perception varies greatly. Any pictures/videos are difficult too since we all know how they can exaggerate/underplay issues based on how it's captured. The only real way is to compare yourself, which you did, and see if you notice a difference. I only bring this up because I feel like what typically happens is people play the panel lottery, and often times you end up with a new set with a new host of issues you never had before and it becomes a long, tiring game where you may or may not win.
Agreed. Let me try and quantify it.
Let's break the TV screen into 4 vertical quarters starting in the centre. I also came from a panny plasma and am extremely sensitive to visual anomalies. I know this is hard to quantify.

With the old set at about a 30 degree angle to the right and 6ft away, I could notice two distinct vertical bands in the right last quarter and the left first quarter. When the video would pan during light screens (hockey / baseball) these bands would be clearly visible as a few shades darker.

With the new TV at the same 30 degree angle from the right I notice no vertical bands.

However if I stand to the left at over a 70 degree angle I can make out a faint vertical band on the right last quarter of the screen. However I don't and won't watch TV from this angle so it doesn't bother me.

Hope that helps.

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Agreed. Let me try and quantify it.
Let's break the TV screen into 4 vertical quarters. I also came from a panny plasma and am extremely sensitive to visual anomalies. I know this is hard to quantify.

With the old set at about a 30 degree angle to the right and 6ft away of the I could notice two distinct vertical bands in the right last quarter and the left first quarter. When the video would pan during light screens (hockey / baseball) this bands would be clearly visible as a few shades darker.

With the new TV at the same 30 degree angle from the right I notice no vertical bands.

However if I stand to the left at over a 70 degree angle I can make out a faint vertical band on the right last quarter of the screen. However I don't and won't watch TV from this angle so it doesn't bother me.

Hope that helps.

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So now onto the next piece of equipment to support my p75 - a new receiver. I'm looking at the new Yamaha RX-V781 but am open to suggestions from the group. Want to make sure I buy something that supports this beast properly!
If you think you might go ATMOS at some point you might want to look at something that can process 9.2 (the RX-A2050) otherwise you will be kicking yourself. Yes more expensive, but it gives you the option. A 7.2 AVR will be limited to only 2 overhead/height channels which is a downgrade in terms of ATMOS/DTS:X quality. Just something to consider...
Great point that I didn't even think about. Thanks for that info. I don't mind spending the money if it makes sense. What I hate spending money on are gimmicks and features that may sound cool on paper but add nothing to the overall a/v experience.
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Congrats. I got almost the same amount for mine. I think it will be worth it in the end. For what I want the P75 is the best TV available today.
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I have a 50" 1080P Samsung plasma that I sit 9 feet from. I've been wanting a larger screen for a long long time. I love how my plasma looks (I just want a larger movie-like screen). So I'm not sure if I'd be happier with a 65" P series that I could get now or wait for a 2016 70" M series to be released. It will be a long time before my next tv so I want one with a great picture and a big screen on a $2000 budget. Opinions? Thanks.


The M-series doesn't have wide color gamut like the P series. I'd take WGC over an extra 5 inches all day. I believe the P series also has more dimming zones. IMO it's a no brainer once you consider all factors.
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So if I adjusted my settings while watching Dolby Vision for the first time instead of watching it with the default Calibrated Dark will I ever be able to get it back so the TV takes over control of the settings? Should I just reset the Calibrated Dark back to its original settings and then play a Dolby Vision disc again?
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Reading back, my earlier response comes across as a bit cranky. I'll of course try a different HDMI cable since it will be an easy fix if it works. I am just concerned since I've seen the same behavior casting and wanted to have others on the lookout for stutter from sources other than PC in case its not limited to my setup.

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I had the P65-C1 delivered last week. It was a blind buy because my local Best Buys did not have any floor units or stock. This TV has greatly exceeded my expectations. My original plan was to buy an OLED, but the prices remained to high to justify. I also purchased the 65" because the 55" has a different panel. I feel like I am in a theater. Watching some of my older Blu-ray movies looks outstanding and 4K content is outstanding. My kids are extremely happy with the picture quality and Google Cast. The only downside I have seen is the poor upscaling of SD. Fortunately for me, I do not watch any SD content on this set so I am fine.

Also, I have found what appears to be the first official review online. This site does a good job of testing their displays and they even used the updated Calman software to test Dolby Vision (HDR).

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So if I adjusted my settings while watching Dolby Vision for the first time instead of watching it with the default Calibrated Dark will I ever be able to get it back so the TV takes over control of the settings? Should I just reset the Calibrated Dark back to its original settings and then play a Dolby Vision disc again?
Start a DV stream first. Set it to Calibrated Dark and then reset it.

The Picture Modes and calibrations for DV are directly linked to DV streams and only become visible when you play DV content... even thought they have the same names.

When it's working right, backlight, brightness and contrast should all be 50%... you can change them while it's playing but the DV magic is happening under the sheets. Best to let them be. We'd like an ambient PM, but waiting.

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I have a 50" 1080P Samsung plasma that I sit 9 feet from. I've been wanting a larger screen for a long long time. I love how my plasma looks (I just want a larger movie-like screen). So I'm not sure if I'd be happier with a 65" P series that I could get now or wait for a 2016 70" M series to be released. It will be a long time before my next tv so I want one with a great picture and a big screen on a $2000 budget. Opinions? Thanks.
We don't know the full details on the M series obviously, but I will say this. Although it still has DV support it won't have the WCG of the P-series. Also, it has 1/2 as many local dimming zones. To me the dimming zones and WCG would be worth the P series premium. Especially if you want it to feel relevant in another 5-8 years
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Could anyone with the P65 tell me the dimensions of the box?
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PCM is working for me without dropouts. I set the AVR to use one of it's sound profiles that upscales PCM to 5.1.4... sound darn good.
Can you elaborate how you do this? Just change it to PCM 5.1 in the Vizio audio section?
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Can you elaborate how you do this? Just change it to PCM 5.1 in the Vizio audio section?
Yes, but it's stereo (lossless I believe). And then in your AVR, you should have some sound profiles that will convert 2 channel PCM stereo to 5.1 or 7.1 or 5.1.4 etc.... depending on how your audio is configured.

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Great point that I didn't even think about. Thanks for that info. I don't mind spending the money if it makes sense. What I hate spending money on are gimmicks and features that may sound cool on paper but add nothing to the overall a/v experience.
Last I'll say about this since it is OT...but ATMOS/DTS:X is not easy to do properly and you have to be willing to install things correctly (which can be a pain and/or unsightly) to get the most out of it. If all you plan to do is use up-firing modules then you will probably be disappointed...they do work but it is night and day different when using actual overhead (or at least heights) set properly. Which gets back to needing 4 overhead/height channels...again pretty big difference from 2 channels. Just don't want you having buyers remorse in case you hadn't thought of it.
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I was looking for a display that could perform closer to my VT60 on blacks and this TV is the closest to it. This is why I'm satisfied with the P series.

As you can see on my signature I have owned those TV's. The P take the edge in the perceived contrast and blacks.It has been proven now by Rtings. black uniformity can't get any better for an LCD also the Rting blooming test says it all.

Yes it could do better with the upscaling but this is something that a firmware could take care.

If you watch a lot of SD content then get something outs.
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I'm sure others have mentioned it to Vizio but on the latest episode of AVexcel Robert Heron said he suggested to Vizio that a fine tuning feature for the settings sliders would be very helpful. Said Vizio said it was a great idea and he seems somewhat confident that Vizio will make it happen.
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If anybody is willing to answer it would be greatly appreciated,

So i just recently bought a samsung un60js7000. The picture is VERY good however i did pay basically full price. For essentially 500 more i could get the new vizio 65 inch p series. My question basically is would i be losing anything by going from the 60js7000 to the 65 vizio p series(outside of the obvious)

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2016/2017 vizio p-series - nice pic(k)! / netflix , best value , D7000 , dolby vision , latest firmware - 6.0.18.1 - previous 5.0.16.1 , Vizio , Vudu

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