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Hello. Has anyone found the solution to the set automatically turning on?

My P75 over the last few weeks is turning on in the middle of the night on it's own.

Thanks in advance from my family and me!
Yes. This has been discussed numerous times. If you are using a casting mobile device or an Android based HDMI device, make sure you close the apps before shutting down.
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Turn off CEC.
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Thanks for ideas!

Nothing new added to system; Roku, Sony UHD and TiVo.

We do not use SmartCast.

CEC has been off 1+ years.

Any way to see what is turning it on?
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Thanks for ideas!

Nothing new added to system; Roku, Sony UHD and TiVo.

We do not use SmartCast.

CEC has been off 1+ years.

Any way to see what is turning it on?
Make sure CEC is turned off on all the devices connected to the TV...

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Thanks for ideas!

Nothing new added to system; Roku, Sony UHD and TiVo.

We do not use SmartCast.

CEC has been off 1+ years.

Any way to see what is turning it on?
You could also try cycling from Eco mode to quick start mode them cycle back to Eco mode. With Vudu on my Android device it turned on me in the past. I can't remember what mode my TV was on. Also having a CEC on with any one of the connected devices it's possible they are turning it on. If they are off and it's still happening, disconnect everything and see if it still happens. If not then connects one device at a time to see which one is doing it.

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You could also try cycling from Eco mode to quick start mode them cycle back to Eco mode. With Vudu on my Android device it turned on me in the past. I can't remember what mode my TV was on. Also having a CEC on with any one of the connected devices it's possible they are turning it on. If they are off and it's still happening, disconnect everything and see if it still happens. If not then connects one device at a time to see which one is doing it.

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720p for watching the PLUTO TV "4K" channel is hilariously and ironically comical.


Funny, with these 4K Displays we have, Vizio/Pluto couldn't show-off just ONE CHANNEL in 4K with this 'FreeWatch'! How long has Pluto had this 4K channel? Over a year or more? Why is it still 720pee to this day? I can see why Vizio left it off the 'FreeWatch' lineup - duh... it's not even in 1080. ( @VizioService )

Also, Pluto uses different compression for the 720pee. Some 720pee content/channels looks better than the others. I don't think there's anything in 1080, just different 'flavors' of 720pee.


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I have this new "Input" on my P65-C1 (and I live north of Humplund). I do not get any new channels when Pluto is selected and when the FreeWatch input is selected nothing happens.....just continues trying to load.

Same. The first time I noticed the WatchFree input it worked. Second time and on all that happens is the screen with the WatchFree/Vizio logo & spinning circle comes up, but the circle just keeps spinning indefinitely. The "channel" never finishes loading. Not that it really matters as it's pure garbage anyway, but it should still function. I'm going to hide the input anyway. Worthless nonsense. How about focusing on fixing what's broken, instead of giving us new features we didn't ask for that are also broken?
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Anyone got any updates on recommended picture settings on the newest firmware? I have the P50-c1 btw. Also I was wondering if anybody had any recommendations on best back light settings when using clear action? (gaming is biggest example or use of) I usually don't like my backlight cranked up. I came from a plasma when I originally got this tv and always had it on movie mode which made this tv rather bright to me in my room. I normally have it set like 17-22 back light on games and 12-18 on cable box. I just wondered if there was an optimal combination of backlight, brightness, etc to reduce the flicker or making it less noticable?
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Soooooo is WatchFree ever going to be available, or partially available in Canada? It's based off PlutoTV which can be accessed (limited chanels on Vizio tvs but full listing accessable on mobile and windows app) so do you guys have a timeline for working to bring it outside the states?

If not then why include it as an input when it's just adding to apps that aren't available up here?
1) WatchFree
2) Dove Channel (useless to be on smartcast home imo)
3) Vudu and Xumo Buttons on remote. It would be nice to have them launch YouTube or Plex instead. Or be mapped by the user to various apps.

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Anyone got any updates on recommended picture settings on the newest firmware? I have the P50-c1 btw. Also I was wondering if anybody had any recommendations on best back light settings when using clear action? (gaming is biggest example or use of) I usually don't like my backlight cranked up. I came from a plasma when I originally got this tv and always had it on movie mode which made this tv rather bright to me in my room. I normally have it set like 17-22 back light on games and 12-18 on cable box. I just wondered if there was an optimal combination of backlight, brightness, etc to reduce the flicker or making it less noticable?
Different people have different sensitivity to flicker so my settings may vary from yours. Only time I use clear avtion personally is when having game mode while gaming on my ps4. I use the calibrated/calibrated dark profiles with 65/50 backlight, 50/47 brightness. Since it's only a 60hz flicker on the p50-c1 it's hard to eliminate it completely, especially on brighter scenes or bright static color/white walls without making the colors or image too dark/dull. I disable it for hdr gaming because it really messes up with the brightness levels.

For the "best settings" just try out various combinations and see which one looks the best to you

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I have a ps4 pro so similar scenario. What about the xtreme black pro (active dimming) on or off?
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Anyone got any updates on recommended picture settings on the newest firmware? I have the P50-C1.

Also I was wondering if anybody had any recommendations on best Backlight settings when using Clear Action? (Gaming is biggest example or use of.)

I usually don't like my Backlight cranked up. I came from a plasma when I originally got this [Display] and always had it on movie mode which made this [Display] rather bright to me in my room. I normally have it set like 17-22 Backlight on games and 12-18 on cable box. I just wondered if there was an optimal combination of backlight, brightness, etc to reduce the flicker or making it less noticeable?


I played around with the Clear Action some time ago and I think I found a combo setting that stopped the flicker, so later today I'll try it again on my P50-C1 and let ya know.

Normally, you want Brightness and Contrast left at their defaults (50). It's not recommended to use Clear Action for shows/movies. If you don't like Judder in shows/movies, you can adjust the Reduce Judder setting to 1, 2, or 3. Settings of 4 and above take you into Soap Opera mode (shows or movies that were filmed now look like they were videoed - they're now 'extra smooth' looking).

Calibrated (Day) and Calibrated Dark (night) are your best settings for all videos/shows/movies. I leave all the Picture Modes at their default settings. What I did was to make Custom Picture Modes, based off of the default Calibrated Dark Picture Mode, for various sources or content.

With these Custom Pic Modes, you can set the Backlight and other settings to where you want it for Movies vs Gaming, for example.

For all of my 6 Custom Pic Modes, I turned OFF both Noise Reduction options and reduced the Sharpness to either 0 or 11.

I have a NetFlix Pic Mode, where my Sharpness most of the time is set at 11. My Backlight for this mode is usually anywhere from 40 to 50 (at night with 5-Watt LED lamp behind my P50-C1). Your 12-18 Backlight setting is pretty darn low. To me, it appears you're not getting the best pic-to-dollar ratio at those settings. Maybe your cable box has a 'very bright' output? Do you stream movies?

I watched a 4K YouTube nature video the other day. I turned the Sharpness down to 0 due the image 'ringing' on a setting of 11. Some 4K content requires the Sharpness be at 0 or else nasty white-edging ruins the image.


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I have a ps4 pro so similar scenario. What about the xtreme black pro (active dimming) on or off?
Always on my friend. Even though the VA panel has good native contrast, the main reason many of us bought the p series were for its backlighting system. Without it (especially on the p55) you're losing out on like 50% of its potential contrast.

As our brother also stated: use "reduce judder" for movies/tv shows (I have it set to 3 for most profiles, 10 for anime/cartoons since I like the smooth animation) and keep clear action only for games.

Keep clear action off for hdr gaming though since even if you find a good balance where there's no flicker, highlights will be brighter and have more noticeable flicker.

Also if you're finding your images to be too bright or washed out. Make sure your contrast is set to 50, and find an optimal brightness between 40 and 50. I keep 50 for most content except Cable and anime where I want a more vivid image. Also check your gamma levels. I have them at 2.1 for calibrated (day) and 2.2 for dark.

Biased lighting is also an option to create an optical illusion of better blacks and contrast by placing a light source behind your tv. I use a hue light for my p50 sometimes and an led light strip around my p55 upstairs and it makes a big difference for dark room viewing.


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I actually have one of those marselle powered ultra hdmi cables with the chip in it that processes the image. I know for most cases that is a no no. I only got it because the cable box signal is so crappy with motion. Some channels are worse than others. The cable helps a little with some of the crappy image problems and up-converts 720p to 1080p. The side effect is it does seem to really brighten the image so I reduce the backlight. I only use that hdmi on the cable box.
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I have to say... The number of random reboots I'm getting on my P50-C1 since this last firmware is ridiculous. Unforgivably so. And that's after a factory reset, soft power cycles, etc. Nothing seems to sort it out. I had it happen three times during a two hour movie yesterday... and it has already happened once this morning. I'm averaging about 3-4 reboots a day compared to maybe 3 a month before. Not sure what the deal is here.

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I have to say... The number of random reboots I'm getting on my P50-C1 since this last firmware is ridiculous. Unforgivably so. And that's after a factory reset, soft power cycles, etc. Nothing seems to sort it out. I had it happen three times during a two hour movie yesterday... and it has already happened once this morning. I'm averaging about 3-4 reboots a day compared to maybe 3 a month before. Not sure what the deal is here.
Contact Vizio. I also have been getting numerous random reboots since the new firmware. I have already contacted Vizio, but the more is better.
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I have a P65-C1 and have been dealing with this of late. The screen splits in half with big white bars on one half. I'll attach some pics. Anyone ever get these? Or know what the issue is?

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Wondering if anyone else has seen this before & how they addressed it.

P50-C1 owner, about 1.5yr old set. Im starting to get the large flashing rectangles blink randomly on the screen. They aren't small, I'd say 3x6" and not always in the settings place.
They don't last half a second, but come and go very randomly. Shutting the tv off then turning it on again addresses the issue but it always comes back eventually. I believe I've only seen it on 4k sources. Can't think of anytime it's happened on satellite input.

Anyone had these before?
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I have to say... The number of random reboots I'm getting on my P50-C1 since this last firmware is ridiculous. Unforgivably so. And that's after a factory reset, soft power cycles, etc. Nothing seems to sort it out... I'm averaging about 3-4 reboots a day compared to maybe 3 a month before. Not sure what the deal is here.


3 ReBoots per month before Firmware 4.1.2.3?

I'll assume you unplugged all devices to the Display, had CEC/ARC off, have Economy Mode On, then Factory Reset, Hard Power-Cycle, and now tested it this way for a while? Do the ReBoots still happen this way? If so, it's then obvious the Display has a problem, if the problem is not what follows below:

Is the AC cord is firmly connected? AC outlet not compromised? Does the Vizio plug going into the socket plug-in too easy and loose or firmly?

Do you have an AC Tester with LEDs that can light-up Red, Green, Yellow? When firmly plugged into the AC outlet, gently move and wiggle the Tester to see if any of the Tester LEDs blink or if a Red LED comes on, steady or blinking as you wiggle the Tester.

I replaced a few AC Outlets after noting the Tester's LEDs were not 'stable' or a Yellow or Red LED lit up.


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P50-C1 owner, about 1.5yr old set. I'm starting to get the large flashing rectangles blink randomly on the screen. They aren't small, I'd say 3x6" and not always in the settings place. They don't last half a second, but come and go very randomly.

Shutting the [Display] off then turning it on again addresses the issue but it always comes back eventually. I believe I've only seen it on 4k sources. Can't think of anytime it's happened on satellite input.


See This Post. Note the part of unplugging all devices and the other setup for testing.

Also, do have your Color Tuner left in it's default settings? (If you never touched it or had the Display calibrated, then yes... your CT is left in default mode.)


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I have a P65-C1 and have been dealing with this of late. The screen splits in half with big white bars on one half. I'll attach some pics. Anyone ever get these? Or know what the issue is?


Have you checked all your HDMI connections and re-seated them? Did you try unplugging every device from the Display and the problem remains? If so, you have an internal failure, I would say.


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If you only notice those when watching an HDMI source, reseat it or change the cable. Make sure the cable has enough bandwidth to handle the content you're pushing through it. If it occurs with smartcast then you may wanna contact vizio
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3 ReBoots per month before Firmware 4.1.2.3?

I'll assume you unplugged all devices to the Display, had CEC/ARC off, have Economy Mode On, then Factory Reset, Hard Power-Cycle, and now tested it this way for a while? Do the ReBoots still happen this way? If so, it's then obvious the Display has a problem, if the problem is not what follows below:

Is the AC cord is firmly connected? AC outlet not compromised? Does the Vizio plug going into the socket plug-in too easy and loose or firmly?

Do you have an AC Tester with LEDs that can light-up Red, Green, Yellow? When firmly plugged into the AC outlet, gently move and wiggle the Tester to see if any of the Tester LEDs blink or if a Red LED comes on, steady or blinking as you wiggle the Tester.

I replaced a few AC Outlets after noting the Tester's LEDs were not 'stable' or a Yellow or Red LED lit up.


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Eh, MAYBE 3 a month at worst, which didn't really bother me because the TV came back up pretty quickly... But since this new firmware, it has been really bad. And it seems to coincide with the display not responding to a source change command from the remote... with a reboot shortly after that happens. Or in some cases, it just happens with no warning. Yesterday, it wouldn't respond to any commands from any of my remotes or the controls on the TV itself, so I finally just had to yank the plug.

CEC/ARC is off. Eco mode on, did a factory reset with everything disconnected (only sources are PC, a Uverse box and an Xbox One X - and reboots have happened while viewing all three at one point or another), and that seemed to work for about a week or so (after I complained about it here previously in the thread)... then it started doing it again. AC cord is firmly connected. AC outlet isn't the issue - it has happened both directly connected to the wall and to a power conditioner that shows all is well with the power.

Oddly, it only did it once today. But it's all very disconcerting. Not sure what's going on.

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Started getting this on my Roku Ultra. No other sources so I thought it was the Ultra. Replaced it with ATV 4k, hasn't happened again
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P50-C1 owner, about 1.5yr old set. Im starting to get the large flashing rectangles blink randomly on the screen. They aren't small, I'd say 3x6" and not always in the settings place.
They don't last half a second, but come and go very randomly. Shutting the tv off then turning it on again addresses the issue but it always comes back eventually. I believe I've only seen it on 4k sources. Can't think of anytime it's happened on satellite input.

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I've changed HDMI cables, re-seated, tried different sources, etc. The TV will be fine for a while, then just suddenly do that. If it's an internal failure, can it be fixed and roughly how much? (estimate)

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I have a P65-C1 and have been dealing with this of late. The screen splits in half with big white bars on one half. I'll attach some pics. Anyone ever get these? Or know what the issue is?


Have you checked all your HDMI connections and re-seated them? Did you try unplugging every device from the Display and the problem remains? If so, you have an internal failure, I would say.


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Did all of those things, thanks. Guess I'll be calling Vizio...


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Vizio called and said they are going to replace my P75-C1 with a P75-F1.

Is that worth it or should I push doe refund? How is Uniformity, DSE or Banding on the 2018 F1 vs previous years??

I am about to bail on this brand and get a 900f but might be willing to give this last chance a shot.
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Vizio called and said they are going to replace my P75-C1 with a P75-F1.

Is that worth it or should I push doe refund? How is Uniformity, DSE or Banding on the 2018 F1 vs previous years??

I am about to bail on this brand and get a 900f but might be willing to give this last chance a shot.
I would say its worth a shot if you are willing. If you paid more for your P75-C1 than what the P75-F1 is selling for I'd ask to get the difference back at least.

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Wondering if anyone else has seen this before & how they addressed it.

P50-C1 owner, about 1.5yr old set. Im starting to get the large flashing rectangles blink randomly on the screen. They aren't small, I'd say 3x6" and not always in the settings place.
They don't last half a second, but come and go very randomly. Shutting the tv off then turning it on again addresses the issue but it always comes back eventually. I believe I've only seen it on 4k sources. Can't think of anytime it's happened on satellite input.

Anyone had these before?
I was having something similar recently with numerous colored boxes and it was occurring from all sources but just random enough that I could not trigger it other than notice it only occurred after the TV was on for a while. This made me suspect it was a likely heat issue.

So I took a chance it was the main board and bought a replacement one on eBay for $110 with free shipping.

The main board integrates ALL the AV connections and the SOC (CPU/GPU) hardware on a single board. The seller was a highly rated parts supplier that claimed the board was from a damaged unit with a broken screen. Since the firmware was the orgional 2016 issue I suspect that was the case. In fact, the adavanced features of the replacement IR remote did not work until the firmware was updated.

It was trivially easy to replace the board—-all that is required is a Phillips screwdriver to remove the back panel. Use caution to disconnect the wire connection for the power switch when removing the rear panel. Once inside it was very simple to remove the internal cables attached to the main board and install the new board. Once again, only a Phillips required.

There are so many screws on the back panel that it took more time to remove and reinstall the rear cover than replace the board itself.

If one is not comfortable doing this themselves the difficulty level is 1/10 for any electronics repairman. I an not a repairman but am familiar with computers as a hobbiest and did not need any instructions to do any of this.

Upon startup it updated itself to the lastest firmware and it all works great again.

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