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Reverse psychology ?

That's an unusual sales pitch !!

I'll bet you 10 bucks you don't buy one ....
They are not going to sell into a situation where there is a high likelihood of failure.

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Well guys after a month of research and reading I ordered the P-75 on the 12th of this month from BB and delivery is scheduled for tomorrow. I am coming from a 2014 M-70. Looking forward to the setup and keeping my fingers crossed after reading about all the issues a lot of you have had to endure.

Do you all think I should update the firmware via usb if it comes with version 1.0 instead of via the web? I will be connecting directly with a lan cable instead of wireless.

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I have a feeling the first batch of the p65's have a panel defect. They all seem to have a yellow stain down the center and I am certain that Vizio and AOU didn't mean for it to be like that.

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All you can do is wait because Vizio is staggering the release.
whats new with the release?
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I have a feeling the first batch of the p65's have a panel defect. They all seem to have a yellow stain down the center and I am certain that Vizio and AOU didn't mean for it to be like that.
It isn't p65s that have a defect. It is every led tv ever made. It happens. Most will have some kind of issue. That is why it is called the panel lottery.
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I have a feeling the first batch of the p65's have a panel defect. They all seem to have a yellow stain down the center and I am certain that Vizio and AOU didn't mean for it to be like that.
I was one of the first , if not THE first , to be watching a p65 .

The only defect with my panel is that it's still not mounted on the wall

Maybe next week ....

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I have a feeling the first batch of the p65's have a panel defect. They all seem to have a yellow stain down the center and I am certain that Vizio and AOU didn't mean for it to be like that.

saw that you created a thread about the uniformity of your 65" ? we already have one person with a thread about motion ...


https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...mity-woes.html




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This is an issue that only affects the 65inch set in the P series range.
All of them display a yellow center band to varying degree.

the 50, 55, and 75 don't have this problem. So I'm gonna have to assume the first batch of P65's are all bad.

The people at Best Buy as well as Vizio customer support have told me (and others) that the set should not have this flaw.


Yes it shows up on actual content, black and white content in nearly unwatchable. I know Matt McRae is a member here and I'd really like for him to address this in some capacity.

I don't mean to put him on the spot, but I don't see how this can be acceptable for what Cnet considers to be among the finest LED sets in existence.

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If this has been previously addressed in this forum, my apologizes.
I burned out after the first 300 pages (out of 441 and counting).

Picking up my P65-C1 tomorrow.
I've already got a couple of sets of certified high speed HDMI cables (Member's Mark and Belkin) which I can use to connect. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the HDMI cable that comes with the Vizio? I know you don't have to spend a lot to get a decent cable. It's either certified high speed, or it isn't.
Just wondering about the Vizio cable before I start the install tomorrow.
Any advice appreciated.
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whats new with the release?
Have you read the thread? We don't know what is new yet. Bug fixes but Vizio has not yet stated what was fixed.
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I can get my buddy fr0m work to start a thread "THE OFFICIAL VIZIO P-SERIES NON-OWNERS THREAD " if that'll help balance it a little ?
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If this has been previously addressed in this forum, my apologizes.
I burned out after the first 300 pages (out of 441 and counting).

Picking up my P65-C1 tomorrow.
I've already got a couple of sets of certified high speed HDMI cables (Member's Mark and Belkin) which I can use to connect. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the HDMI cable that comes with the Vizio? I know you don't have to spend a lot to get a decent cable. It's either certified high speed, or it isn't.
Just wondering about the Vizio cable before I start the install tomorrow.
Any advice appreciated.
If possible use the Vizio-provided cable. It does [email protected] and proper ARC.
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If this has been previously addressed in this forum, my apologizes.
I burned out after the first 300 pages (out of 441 and counting).

Picking up my P65-C1 tomorrow.
I've already got a couple of sets of certified high speed HDMI cables (Member's Mark and Belkin) which I can use to connect. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the HDMI cable that comes with the Vizio? I know you don't have to spend a lot to get a decent cable. It's either certified high speed, or it isn't.
Just wondering about the Vizio cable before I start the install tomorrow.
Any advice appreciated.



I think I'm using it at the moment .
But I'm not sure as I'm not having HDMI problems ....

I'll be mounting on the wall next week and allthough I only plan to use a cat6 and HDMI for now , I'll be adding a couple more HDMI and an spdif and optical just in case ....

The 65 isn't THAT heavy , but a misplaced hand can cause unnesecesary pressure on the screen so I plan to do it only once


As for any advice to installing it , plan any holes in the wall cavity for cable runs in advance by using blue-tape and a measuring rule ....
For example : The bottom connections can work ok with a hole about 4" below (still hidden behind the panel) . This will give you a long enough radius to put a 90degree bend in the cable if needed , but the lower it is the less bend you need .

The weakest part of your fishing line is the knot .....

Try to put any bends as far away from the plug as you can

Alonso , vizio did it the right way by putting the mains power and data inputs on opposite sides of the panel .
Keep it that way .
Keep them separate .

Plan for the unknown , and add a couple of extra HDMI cables of you can .
Plus an optical and co-ax "back-up" .

Use different colored electrical tape to "color-code" each HDMI input , and BOTH ends of each HDMI lead

Don't use screws to long , and don't over tighten into the back of the panel .
Don't use power tools , and if you can use a split-washer and only tighten until it's "flat" .

Hope that helps .

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Have you read the thread? We don't know what is new yet. Bug fixes but Vizio has not yet stated what was fixed.
i haven't read the entire thread so thank you for your answer.
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whats new with the release?
Matt will let us know when he gets back to his office. He didn't say when that will be.
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It isn't p65s that have a defect. It is every led tv ever made. It happens. Most will have some kind of issue. That is why it is called the panel lottery.
Actually, IIRC, the term "panel lottery" was coined in connection with some older Samsung display models that came with either a panel manufactured by Samsung, or a panel manufactured by AUO, which some considered a lessor-quality panel. If you got a display with a Samsung panel, you "won the panel lottery." See, e.g.,

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...on-thread.html
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Actually, IIRC, the term "panel lottery" was coined in connection with some older Samsung display models that came with either a panel manufactured by Samsung, or a panel manufactured by AUO, which some considered a lessor-quality panel. If you got a display with a Samsung panel, you "won the panel lottery." See, e.g.,

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but every p65 has the same yellow band.

I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't see how that's acceptable.

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i haven't read the entire thread so thank you for your answer.
There was nothing about the update before yesterday.

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Actually, IIRC, the term "panel lottery" was coined in connection with some older Samsung display models that came with either a panel manufactured by Samsung, or a panel manufactured by AUO, which some considered a lessor-quality panel. If you got a display with a Samsung panel, you "won the panel lottery." See, e.g.,

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I got 3 replacement panels from samsung for my JS9500 they were all genuine Samsung panels. Not sure what you mean about winning the lottery with Samsung panels when I got bad panels from them too.


I also returned one JS8500 do to light bleed on the corners ,I never try another one because of too many reports.
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If this has been previously addressed in this forum, my apologizes.
I burned out after the first 300 pages (out of 441 and counting).

Picking up my P65-C1 tomorrow.
I've already got a couple of sets of certified high speed HDMI cables (Member's Mark and Belkin) which I can use to connect. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the HDMI cable that comes with the Vizio? I know you don't have to spend a lot to get a decent cable. It's either certified high speed, or it isn't.
Just wondering about the Vizio cable before I start the install tomorrow.
Any advice appreciated.
Any 6' high speed HDMI cable seems to work, long ones are becoming a problem. New bandwidth demands are going to be causing problems over longer distances.
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but every p65 has the same yellow band.

I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't see how that's acceptable.
Take it back and get a refund then .
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Ok, all I was pointing out was the etymology of the term "panel lottery." I wasn't commenting on the actual quality of Samsung panels or the yellow stain.

Sorry for the interruption. Carry on.
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Has anyone experienced this before with tablet? My tablet battery went to 0, and shut off. Plugged in tablet to recharge it. Then rebooted tablet. Tablet now has splash screen that will allow me to close it for a moment and then it re appears. Says " Unfortunately google play services has stopped". Gives you option to click " OK ". Then it goes away then re appears. Prevents from being able to use tablet. I have rebooted tablet and disconnected/reconnected to wireless network. Still have a problem. Any ideas?

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I got 3 replacement panels from samsung for my JS9500 they were all genuine Samsung panels. Not sure what you mean about winning the lottery with Samsung panels when I got bad panels from them too.


I also returned one JS8500 do light bleed on the corners ,I never try another one because of too many reports.
Check the post you quoted and look for the key word "older". You don't need to defend constantly.
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Ok, all I was pointing out was the etymology of the term "panel lottery." I wasn't commenting on the actual quality of Samsung panels or the yellow stain.

Sorry for the interruption. Carry on.
It's okay. Plus, if 98% of the have the yellow stain- it can't be a vairance, it's a bad batch.

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It's okay. Plus, if 98% of the have the yellow stain- it can't be a vairance, it's a bad batch.
Lol where are you get your numbers? 98% lol
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Has anyone experienced this before with tablet? My tablet battery went to 0, and shut off. Plugged in tablet to recharge it. Then rebooted tablet. Tablet now has splash screen that will allow me to close it for a moment and then it re appears. Says " Unfortunately google play services has stopped". Gives you option to click " OK ". Then it goes away then re appears. Prevents from being able to use tablet. I have rebooted tablet and disconnected/reconnected to wireless network. Still have a problem. Any ideas?

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I did office is closed, how did you resolve it?

Reboot seemed to clear problem. Then problem came right back grr

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I don't see any yellow while watching this 4K video ...




However , there is an audio drop-out at the end of the first verse and lip-sync issues .....
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Check the post you quoted and look for the key word "older". You don't need to defend constantly.

not defending ,what I'm trying to say that this is very common on LCD. That's what I learned after exchanging and getting screen replacements many times.

If you see it with content then exchange the panel but in other occasions is not visible unless you start to put test patterns and try to play with the settings to exacerbate what you see.

I was not aware of this because I never had an LCD as a main display.
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I got 3 replacement panels from samsung for my JS9500 they were all genuine Samsung panels. Not sure what you mean about winning the lottery with Samsung panels when I got bad panels from them too.


I also returned one JS8500 do to light bleed on the corners ,I never try another one because of too many reports.
Re-read what he wrote. the term Panel lottery is used in relation to which brand of panel you may or may not get in your tv.

Back on topic, has anybody had anything fixed with the new firmware? Just curious.
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