Official Vizio 2016/2017 P Series Owners ONLY Thread UHD/HDR/DV No Price Talk Please - Page 49 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 288589Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1441 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:08 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mattopotamus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,616
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2119 Post(s)
Liked: 2188
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSonntag View Post
So how are the screen reflections on this display? For those of you that have it in a room with windows or other light sources opposite the screen, how noticeable are they?
reflections are pretty terrible. That is really the only way to describe it. Overhead lights, lamps, etc all create bad reflections.
Mattopotamus is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #1442 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:09 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Forum Special Member
 
thomasfxlt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,995
Mentioned: 122 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3331 Post(s)
Liked: 6192
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post
I have a 2013 80" M. How far back do you sit? I sit about 12' or so. I'm really concerned I'm going to notice and dislike the 5" size reduction. Any thoughts on going smaller?

My P75 is ordered. I'm meeting my installer today to redo some wiring and get prepped for Atmos. Set my delivery for ~3 weeks from now to get the other work done and make sure I'm confident on the buy.
Same M80 here. I was very reluctant to give up the size but it's a non issue IMO.

SONY Z9F LCD Master Series Owners Thread
Vizio 2016 P series FAQ, general info and Help
Sony Z9F 75, Vizio P75C1 UHD/HDR/DV, Pioneer Elite SC-95, Samsung UHD Bluray K8500, AppleTV 4K, CC Ultra
thomasfxlt is offline  
post #1443 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:16 AM
Member
 
drock2k1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 95 Post(s)
Liked: 35
Anyone coming from a Samsung JS8500 to this set? I love the deep color I get from my Sammy but do not necessarily care for some of the edge lot problems.
buju22 likes this.
drock2k1 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #1444 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:17 AM
Advanced Member
 
ttnuagmada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 629
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 260 Post(s)
Liked: 281
Quote:
Originally Posted by Surly73 View Post
Which is not to say that excited owners shouldn't post pictures, or that cell phone pics don't have some value (blooming etc...). Being hyper-critical or super excited based on cell phone pics and browser displays which lack calibration, proper color space, dynamic range and end-to-end quality is probably futile
Exactly, people trying to judge which display has better colors etc based on cell phone pics is pretty LOL.
ttnuagmada is offline  
post #1445 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:19 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mattopotamus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,616
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2119 Post(s)
Liked: 2188
Quote:
Originally Posted by drock2k1 View Post
Anyone coming from a Samsung JS8500 to this set? I love the deep color I get from my Sammy but do not necessarily care for some of the edge lot problems.
I am. You will not be disappointed. The blacks are even deeper, and you avoid all of the issues with edge lit. The vizio is just as uniform too. I have no banding, clouding, etc. The samsung does have better color accuracy and does a better job at upscaling sources that are of lower quality. My only gripe with the 8500 was night scenes, and the vizio destroys it. Also, DV is just flat out amazing. It was like watching Madmax for the first time.
venus933 likes this.
Mattopotamus is offline  
post #1446 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:22 AM
Member
 
stogie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 43
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSonntag View Post
So how are the screen reflections on this display? For those of you that have it in a room with windows or other light sources opposite the screen, how noticeable are they?
This was a snap my wife sent me to surprise me. She had the neighbor come over and help her hang it while I was at work. I haven't watched it during the day yet but it looks like the blinds will need to be lowered.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20160328_125519_2.jpg
Views:	691
Size:	407.3 KB
ID:	1346378  
stogie is offline  
post #1447 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:29 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by thomasfxlt View Post
Same M80 here. I was very reluctant to give up the size but it's a non issue IMO.
The only thing keeping me from buying one of these is the lack of a 70" model. I'm not paying for a 75" and I'm afraid the 65" will be too small at a 10 to 20 foot viewing distance. :/ Holding out hope for a 70" M series, but wishing there was a 70" P.
SGrim80 is offline  
post #1448 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:32 AM
Member
 
jrarnold4385's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSonntag View Post
So how are the screen reflections on this display? For those of you that have it in a room with windows or other light sources opposite the screen, how noticeable are they?
Sitting in my living room with the sliding glass door to the backyard behind me about 30 feet away. I had to look very carefully to see where the reflection is while reading this forum. Mind you I have my screen at only 50% backlight cause the white of this forum is too hard for me to handle otherwise.
jrarnold4385 is offline  
post #1449 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:35 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
ack_bk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 11,367
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1345 Post(s)
Liked: 1506
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGrim80 View Post
The only thing keeping me from buying one of these is the lack of a 70" model. I'm not paying for a 75" and I'm afraid the 65" will be too small at a 10 to 20 foot viewing distance. :/ Holding out hope for a 70" M series, but wishing there was a 70" P.
If you are sitting between 10-20' I really doubt 5" will make that big of a difference. Have you thought about buying a projector LOL
ack_bk is offline  
post #1450 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:37 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post
If you are sitting between 10-20' I really doubt 5" will make that big of a difference. Have you thought about buying a projector LOL
I have, but alas, it would do me no good because the largest screen size I can fit where it gets mounted is a 75". It would be an upgrade to a 55" that is currently there. 70" would just be the perfect fit.
SGrim80 is offline  
post #1451 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:40 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Goatse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Pineapple under the sea
Posts: 3,916
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 68 Post(s)
Liked: 52
My dilemma is having to buy a all new TV stand because of the legs. My beloved plasma died few weeks ago, I'm all ready to buy the p75. I just don't want to shell out few hundred just put put the TV on it and throw my old expensive stand away. Hoping the sharp 70n9100 comes out soon.
Goatse is offline  
post #1452 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:41 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
reallynotnick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,141
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 457 Post(s)
Liked: 327
Quote:
Originally Posted by rongopongo View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattopotamus View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcarboost View Post
The judder issue sounds like the same thing I've returned several Samsung's before. When it skips, is that with some smoothing on or without?

Has anyone else noticed this issue?
If you have clear action off and reduce judder and motion blur set to 0 you will not have judder. The judder can occur if you play around with the motion smoothing settings.
I have it set that way already. The problem is the 3:2 pulldown. Watching movies over 60 Hertz from my htpc is unbearable. My other TVs never had judder.
So do other sets have a reverse 3:2 pull down? As it sounds like your PC is adding a 3:2 pull down and the display is just displaying what the PC is sending?

I've never had a set that could do 5:5 so I'm excited to see what that looks like.
reallynotnick is online now  
post #1453 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:41 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
ack_bk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 11,367
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1345 Post(s)
Liked: 1506
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGrim80 View Post
I have, but alas, it would do me no good because the largest screen size I can fit where it gets mounted is a 75". It would be an upgrade to a 55" that is currently there. 70" would just be the perfect fit.
You may want to wait for the 70" Sharp N9000 model that is getting released soon to compare to the 65" Vizio. It will be FALD 4K with HDR and Quantum Dot with an MSRP of $3299. I suspect you will find it cheaper than MSRP especially if Sams Club and Costco carry it.
ack_bk is offline  
post #1454 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:45 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 136
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 75 Post(s)
Liked: 44
just left my local bb and the guy who helped me had no idea about the new vizio p series and wanted one himself after looking it up lol. I seen two empty spots on wall by m series of last year guessing that's where the new p series will be. hopefully I will have the 50 or 55 inch by Thursday still undecided on va or ips
Bamaboi89 is offline  
post #1455 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:51 AM
Member
 
Johnnyice426's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 169
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Liked: 33
A question for Matt McRae & something I found about calibration

First, this is for Matt. I don't know if this question goes into that special sauce but do the new P's respond to the 2086 metadata or do they ignore it?


Second part, I had mentioned early as to why anyone would want to calibrate to rec.709. I found this that somewhat vindicates me. It's a little lengthy and not for everyone but for those that are into calibrating you should give it a listen.

LG 65 B6P
Vizio 2014 P 702ui-3B
Samsung K8500, Apple 4K TV
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV THX
Atlantic technology speakers 5.1 THX
Johnnyice426 is offline  
post #1456 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:52 AM
Member
 
veli1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 174
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 120 Post(s)
Liked: 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattopotamus View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by drock2k1 View Post
Anyone coming from a Samsung JS8500 to this set? I love the deep color I get from my Sammy but do not necessarily care for some of the edge lot problems.
I am. You will not be disappointed. The blacks are even deeper, and you avoid all of the issues with edge lit. The vizio is just as uniform too. I have no banding, clouding, etc. The samsung does have better color accuracy and does a better job at upscaling sources that are of lower quality. My only gripe with the 8500 was night scenes, and the vizio destroys it. Also, DV is just flat out amazing. It was like watching Madmax for the first time.
I'm curious about dv with lower accuracy
veli1 is offline  
post #1457 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:56 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mattopotamus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,616
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2119 Post(s)
Liked: 2188
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatse View Post
My dilemma is having to buy a all new TV stand because of the legs. My beloved plasma died few weeks ago, I'm all ready to buy the p75. I just don't want to shell out few hundred just put put the TV on it and throw my old expensive stand away. Hoping the sharp 70n9100 comes out soon.
You can always buy a VESA stand on amazing for around $50 instead of using the actual legs that come with the TV. I went the other direction and just bought a new actual stand.
Mattopotamus is offline  
post #1458 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:57 AM
Member
 
ngordonmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Just to reiterate...I prefaced the pics that I posted that they were crappy iPhone pics that I rattled off in about 2 minutes. But they did convey what I was referring to which was just an issue with detail and processing compared to all the other sets in that room. My real purpose for doing so was to ask current owners if they had similar experiences and whether it was something that could be improved upon with software updates. It's a great looking tv and if I didn't have other sets directly adjacent to it, I probably wouldn't have noticed. Nevertheless, I'm still getting one this week.
ngordonmd is offline  
post #1459 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 10:59 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bargervais's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Tampa Bay Florida
Posts: 3,759
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1755 Post(s)
Liked: 1090
Quote:
Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post
If you are sitting between 10-20' I really doubt 5" will make that big of a difference. Have you thought about buying a projector LOL
i think the size is not the issue he wants the prices of last years M series.

Living Room Sam. UN65KS8000 / 2017 Roku Ultra / Onkyo TX-RZ920 7.2.4 / M-5010 Amp. /Sam. UBD-M8500 Blu-Ray Player.
DEN TCL 65R617 65-Inch 4K Ultra / Onkyo TX-RZ730 5.2.4 / Philips 4K UHD Dolby Vision Player (P7502) BEDROOM Sam. 55JS8500 / 2016 Roku Ultra / LG UP870 3D Ultra High Definition Blu-Ray 4K Player
bargervais is offline  
post #1460 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:06 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mavinwow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,249
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 499 Post(s)
Liked: 560
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyice426 View Post
First, this is for Matt. I don't know if this question goes into that special sauce but do the new P's respond to the 2086 metadata or do they ignore it?


Second part, I had mentioned early as to why anyone would want to calibrate to rec.709. I found this that somewhat vindicates me. It's a little lengthy and not for everyone but for those that are into calibrating you should give it a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0JAKAUu6IE
Matt said that they developed a calibration guide with SpectraCal, makers of CalMan software. Should be released soon.
WiFi-Spy and shoman94 like this.

Vizio PQ 65
Vizio '14 70 P Series, Calibration settings
Samsung 55ES8000
CalMAN 5 Novice Walkthrough
Denon X4200, 5.1.4 setup. Monolith 12 Sub
Mavinwow is offline  
post #1461 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:06 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bruceames's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Rafael, CA
Posts: 1,427
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 538 Post(s)
Liked: 371
Are there any owners that also have an HDR10 TV and the Samsung UHD BD player with one the Warner movies? I'd like to see how Dolby Vision HDR (via streaming) compares to HDR10 (on the UHD BD). I know it's not a true apples to apples comparison, but any impressions would be appreciated. Thanks.
bruceames is offline  
post #1462 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:09 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,006
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)
Liked: 95
Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
Are there any owners that also have an HDR10 TV and the Samsung UHD BD player with one the Warner movies? I'd like to see how Dolby Vision HDR (via streaming) compares to HDR10 (on the UHD BD). I know it's not a true apples to apples comparison, but any impressions would be appreciated. Thanks.
The Samsung doesn't support HDR yet.

Mike

wmwilker is offline  
post #1463 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:09 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 13
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 10
New here, I have been reading this and the other thread religiously for the past week. Last night I finally returned my M75-C1 due to a screen defect. I would have just exchanged it but the M75 is no longer available at Costco and the Wife and I agreed that the P75-C1 aligns more with what we want so yay for procrastinating.

So this Friday Bestbuy will be delivering the new Vizio P75. I would like to thank @thomasfxlt and @Matt McRae for their patience and knowledge. I am excited to get the new set on the wall to enjoy. If it weren't for these two members (among others) I would have been more reluctant to purchase something that I have not laid eyes on.
gotaudi is offline  
post #1464 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:10 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
CSonntag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Back in the SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,049
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 230 Post(s)
Liked: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by stogie View Post
This was a snap my wife sent me to surprise me. She had the neighbor come over and help her hang it while I was at work. I haven't watched it during the day yet but it looks like the blinds will need to be lowered.
ya, that sux...not really very good to use as a daily tv...better in a controlled HT environment

Take responsibility for your own actions...society is not here to look after you...
In other words, if you order coffee, expect it to be hot for christsake!
CSonntag is offline  
post #1465 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:11 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by bargervais View Post
i think the size is not the issue he wants the prices of last years M series.
A 70" is what I want...it would be nice to have that $2500-$2800 or so 70" P series in the lineup instead of the 10" jump from 65" to 75" along with a $1500 jump in price. I may settle for the 65". Who knows, waiting on the new M series prices, sizes, and additional information.
SGrim80 is offline  
post #1466 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:12 AM
Member
 
tedrik's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 158
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian22 View Post
Looks like this TV was great price wise and what you get for the price. Vizio P series has a challenger. Hisense curved with 200 zones coming in at 2 grand!!
Yes..Having trouble deciding on the Vizio P65 or waiting until summer for the 2016 Hisense 65H10C (4 year warranty) which is increasing their zones from 240 to 300 (depending on which review you read). Almost pulled the trigger at Amazon for the Hisense 65H10B with 240 zones at $1999 and then the P65 was released... ahhh decisions!
tedrik is offline  
post #1467 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:14 AM
Member
 
stogie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 43
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatse View Post
My dilemma is having to buy a all new TV stand because of the legs. My beloved plasma died few weeks ago, I'm all ready to buy the p75. I just don't want to shell out few hundred just put put the TV on it and throw my old expensive stand away. Hoping the sharp 70n9100 comes out soon.
My P65 wouldn't fit on my old stand so I bought an articulated wall mount. I didn't really need all the motion but it is sure nice to swing it away from the wall to connect the cables.
stogie is offline  
post #1468 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:15 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bruceames's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Rafael, CA
Posts: 1,427
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 538 Post(s)
Liked: 371
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post
The Samsung doesn't support HDR yet.
I'm referring to HDR10 on the Samsung player. I comparison I'm looking for is HDR10 vs. Dolby Vision. Obviously the HDR10 would have to be viewed on another TV.
bruceames is offline  
post #1469 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:17 AM
Senior Member
 
hockeythug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 472
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 238 Post(s)
Liked: 452
I just have the cheap SpectraCal C3 and the CalMAN Home Express software that my friend is currently borrowing. Should have it back tomorrow though. Looking at getting a C6 soon as I have a lot of tvs to do and want to learn more about calibration in general.

LG 65C7
Denon AVR-X3300W
Q Acoustics 3020 fronts, 3090 center, 3010 surrounds
SVS PB-1000
Samsung K8500
hockeythug is offline  
post #1470 of 64411 Old 03-29-2016, 11:18 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,006
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)
Liked: 95
Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
I'm referring to HDR10 on the Samsung player. I comparison I'm looking for is HDR10 vs. Dolby Vision. Obviously the HDR10 would have to be viewed on another TV.
I'm referring to the BD player.

Mike

wmwilker is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply LCD Flat Panel Displays

Tags
2016/2017 vizio p-series - nice pic(k)! / netflix , best value , D7000 , dolby vision , latest firmware - 6.0.18.1 - previous 5.0.16.1 , Vizio , Vudu

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off