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Did you exchange your M-series for your P-series? I thought you sold it?
No, when I exchanged my M80 for a different M80 last fall. Point is, they don't leave until you sign for the new one.
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Most companies wouldn't let you get your old TV back once it's been officially exchanged. You called Vizio and expected them to use BB? That right there doesn't make any sense. Vizio and BB don't use the same distribution centers and don't sue the same inventory. I'm sorry for your issues, I hope your next set is problem free.


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Yeah, I get the policy of not letting you get your old TV back. I was just really hoping since this one is defective to the point of unwatchable, and at least I could play games and watch blurays on the old one while I waited for the next replacement to be shipped. Now I'm simply out a display until I get a replacement. It's stupid to have policies set in stone and not let customer service reps go outside of the box. I mean, I get it, but it's dumb.

As far as me expecting them to use BB - OK, fair enough. Overall what I was expecting is them to go above and beyond to expedite a replacement on the 2nd defective $2000 set in a row. Expecting me to wait another 10 business days is crazy pants. If this were my customer, I'd go out of my way to get a partner like Best Buy to help make that happen. Or, you know, figure out how to just get my own product from my own distribution center to the customer in 2-3 business days instead of 7-10.

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Sorry to hear about your experiences. Could you do us a favor though. Could you just take a picture of the image doubling and then post that. It would help other people to see some of the issues that others have experienced.
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Honestly, the differences in HDR with Netflix Marco Polo are subtle. I really haven't been impressed with it that much. However, you will see much more highlight details in windows and other very bright areas.

Vudu's HDR is a different story. It was much better in my opinion than even the UHD Blu ray of the same movie(Mad Max). Colors are much more vibrant and the shadow detail stays dark in the areas that should be dark and gets bright in the areas where it should be bright.
Oh, interesting, and good to know! I haven't ponied up for any Vudu movies yet, but I've been planning to watch Pacific Rim in 4K/HDR when I do. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is less than impressed with the HDR Marco Polo, and thrilled that this seems to be more about the content than the display.
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The delivery company that handled my M series exchange wouldn't leave without me signing for the TV.
Yeah, I guess I screwed up a bit on that one. The delivery company told me I could only reject for physical damage. Any defects on the new device would need to be handled through the manufacturer - so once I confirmed with them that there was no physical damage to the packaging, device, or my home (walls, floor, etc) they were good to go. I was hoping I could catch them in time to change their minds, but I couldn't.

I should have just refused confirmation until I checked every little thing out.
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Yeah, I guess I screwed up a bit on that one. The delivery company told me I could only reject for physical damage. Any defects on the new device would need to be handled through the manufacturer - so once I confirmed with them that there was no physical damage to the packaging, device, or my home (walls, floor, etc) they were good to go. I was hoping I could catch them in time to change their minds, but I couldn't.

I should have just refused confirmation until I checked every little thing out.
Live and learn. Stick with your decision. These are great displays.
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Live and learn. Stick with your decision. These are great displays.
I wish I could, I've just got a personal policy about going above and beyond for customer service

It's the way I run my own career and the way I manage my team (IT security manager, yay). If we drop the ball on something, we'll fix it. If we drop the ball on the same thing twice, someone on my team and myself are working overtime to make it right (my employees get compensation to make up for it, and I never ask them to work crazy hours I'm not working myself... I'm not quite the slave driver that makes me out to be). Knock on wood, we only run into this once or twice a year because we have a culture of quality and maintaining positive relationships with other teams.

Since I didn't even get a "let me talk to someone and see what we can do," and just a "sorry, the policy is the policy and it's gonna be a couple weeks" I can't do business with Vizio anymore, especially when it's a product in their higher end.

Too bad, it really is a beautiful screen.

I'll leave this as my last post, though, unless someone wants more pics or video of the issue. I don't really want to poop up the thread complaining about their customer service. AVS mods will have better things to do than deal with my posts getting reported :P
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That's why I'm disliking Vizio's approach here. I'm most likely going to have to buy a dedicated 4K streaming device along with a tuner for OTA since I stopped paying for cable years ago.
When did you find out there was no tuner?

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Just thought I'd let everyone know that the new firmware does fix the issue with most 4K youtube videos stuttering and causing the audio and video to become de-synced.

I may be one of the few people here who watch youtube channels that have 4K content fairly often, but that was by far my biggest issue with the TV so far. Figured they'd eventually patch it, though. Glad it came through fairly quickly!
My experience with casting YouTube to my P65 via the tablet have been frustrating to say the least. I have my TV hardwired via powerline converters and have no trouble streaming anything through any of my streaming devices (Roku 4, Fire TV 4k, PS4, X-Box One) except for YouTube and a service I use called Mubi (via their app) through the tablet. When streaming YouTube videos the YouTube splash screen will pop up on the TV and then just sit there. If I wait long enough, always at least four minutes and sometimes more, the video will eventually play. Subsequent videos will play fine and quickly once the initial one starts to play. My Mubi app doesn't work at all and will never play although I can cast it through Chromecast and/or Roku casting just fine.

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There are several examples of calibration threads associated with a display model line. The members of those threads participate in both the calibration (specialist) thread and the owner's thread.

I believe that those who use computers for their source material are just as much specialists as those who invest in the equipment to do their own calibrations. If someone starts a computer thread for the P-Series, I expect that those interested will also stay active in the owner's thread. We are all subject to HDMI problems at any moment.
Vizio P observations
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1. 720p and 1080i sources look significantly worse on this tv versus my Samsung 2011 UN60D7000 60-Inch 1080p 240 Hz 3D LED HDTV via Comcast cable
2. Dolby Digital does not work when casting Netflix, vudu and hbo go. It does work with 4k youtube. Denon 2112… Yes I have tried several different cables; Amazon basics newest cables, cable mart elite 22 gbps, and various other high speed cables lying around. For some reason with Vudu hdx movies I received DD but not 4k.
3. 1080p 120fps 10bit on desktop looks significantly worse than 1080p 60fps and of course 4k 60 fps. It looks like it is a lower chroma 420 versus 444.
Positives
1. Finally watched a dolby vision 4k movie last night (pacific rim), OH MY!! The details and colors were outstanding… 4k youtube excellent
2. Even though 1080p @120 fps is gimped with subsampling, the feeling of control using a mouse is ridiculously good. I am on top of the leader boards consistently now with fps multiplayer games where as before with D7000 I was avg. to above avg. player.
3. In a dark room, black levels are incredible.

I wrote this as a reality check to potential buyers who say they “mainly watch cable during the day and occasionally play a game or watch a movie”, I personaly believe you should go with a 1080p oled or Samsung ks8000 for the better upscaling. If you watch movies at night and or love gaming, this set is for you. In addition, I think it’s funny that some people on this forum believe there is too much talk about pc or gaming while they are shooting the Sh_t and telling every noob that asks a question on this forum to check post 1 in a rude manner….
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I think part of the issue here is that these are all being treated as mobile apps from the Android store, and the design philosophy is different than apps that are specifically designed to take advantage of the real estate a large TV screen provides. It's similar to how Apple TV apps are different and better designed for media than iPad apps. That's why I'm disliking Vizio's approach here. I'm most likely going to have to buy a dedicated 4K streaming device along with a tuner for OTA since I stopped paying for cable years ago. I'm kind of annoyed that I need multiple devices and remotes to have an experience that was all in one on my last TV. I can probably bear with it for the picture quality but there's no way I could invite someone over and leave them alone in the room with the TV and expect them to figure this stuff out.

You're right. You won't see thumbs on any mobile apps. Probably unlikely to expect that to happen.

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Oh, interesting, and good to know! I haven't ponied up for any Vudu movies yet, but I've been planning to watch Pacific Rim in 4K/HDR when I do. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is less than impressed with the HDR Marco Polo, and thrilled that this seems to be more about the content than the display.

Pacific Rim looked amazing on my p50. You should definitely notice the DV in that movie. Marco Polo looks really good, but not as impressive as Pacific Rim. I just wish the VUDU rentals were not so expensive.
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Vizio P observations

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1.720p and 1080i sources look significantly worse on this tv versus my Samsung 2011 UN60D7000 60-Inch 1080p 240 Hz 3D LED HDTV via Comcast cable

2.Dolby Digital does not work when casting Netflix, vudu and hbo go. It does work with 4k youtube. Denon 2112… Yes I have tried several different cables; Amazon basics newest cables, cable mart elite 22 gbps, and various other high speed cables lying around. For some reason with Vudu hdx movies I received DD but not 4k.

3.1080p 120fps 10bit on desktop looks significantly worse than 1080p 60fps and of course 4k 60 fps. It looks like it is a lower chroma 420 versus 444.

Positives

1.Finally watched a dolby vision 4k movie last night (pacific rim), OH MY!! The details and colors were outstanding… 4k youtube excellent

2.Even though 1080p @120 fps is gimped with subsampling, the feeling of control using a mouse is ridiculously good. I am on top of the leader boards consistently now with fps multiplayer games where as before with D7000 I was avg. to above avg. player.

3.In a dark room, black levels are incredible.



I wrote this as a reality check to potential buyers who say they “mainly watch cable during the day and occasionally play a game or watch a movie”, I personaly believe you should go with a 1080p oled or Samsung ks8000 for the better upscaling. If you watch movies at night and or love gaming, this set is for you. In addition, I think it’s funny that some people on this forum believe there is too much talk about pc or gaming while they are shooting the Sh_t and telling every noob that asks a question on this forum to check post 1 in a rude manner….


The reason, that a separate thread was suggested, was that the information was would be 1) easy to find and 2) focused on a specific topic that could easily go 100's of posts with all of the troubleshooting, tips and success/failure posts. That way those who do care about gaming (especially from a PC) would have a focused group of experienced members replying to those posts. As you can see things get pushed easily and having anything but basic troubleshooting posts are very difficult.


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I remember reading about it months ago but forgot about it. I only remembered after the Best Buy delivery tech tried to connect my coaxial cable to the TV, but couldn't.
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There are several examples of calibration threads associated with a display model line. The members of those threads participate in both the calibration (specialist) thread and the owner's thread.

I believe that those who use computers for their source material are just as much specialists as those who invest in the equipment to do their own calibrations. If someone starts a computer thread for the P-Series, I expect that those interested will also stay active in the owner's thread. We are all subject to HDMI problems at any moment.
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Vizio P observations
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1. 720p and 1080i sources look significantly worse on this tv versus my Samsung 2011 UN60D7000 60-Inch 1080p 240 Hz 3D LED HDTV via Comcast cable
2. Dolby Digital does not work when casting Netflix, vudu and hbo go. It does work with 4k youtube. Denon 2112… Yes I have tried several different cables; Amazon basics newest cables, cable mart elite 22 gbps, and various other high speed cables lying around. For some reason with Vudu hdx movies I received DD but not 4k.
3. 1080p 120fps 10bit on desktop looks significantly worse than 1080p 60fps and of course 4k 60 fps. It looks like it is a lower chroma 420 versus 444.
Positives
1. Finally watched a dolby vision 4k movie last night (pacific rim), OH MY!! The details and colors were outstanding… 4k youtube excellent
2. Even though 1080p @120 fps is gimped with subsampling, the feeling of control using a mouse is ridiculously good. I am on top of the leader boards consistently now with fps multiplayer games where as before with D7000 I was avg. to above avg. player.
3. In a dark room, black levels are incredible.

I wrote this as a reality check to potential buyers who say they “mainly watch cable during the day and occasionally play a game or watch a movie”, I personaly believe you should go with a 1080p oled or Samsung ks8000 for the better upscaling. If you watch movies at night and or love gaming, this set is for you. In addition, I think it’s funny that some people on this forum believe there is too much talk about pc or gaming while they are shooting the Sh_t and telling every noob that asks a question on this forum to check post 1 in a rude manner….
Why did you attach your post as a reply to my post stating that having a computer thread in addition to a calibration thread associated with this owner's thread? Is it because I tell newcomers to check post number one? I'm guilty of that. I even have a link to post number one in the signature area of my posts. So do a few other members.

I've no reason to debate the negative/positive points you make. I have no idea why you think that you're under attack -- by who and in what post?

I also can't comment on the problems that you've had or on how effective the attempt to diagnose them have been.

Any rude posts should be reported to the moderators of this thread. There is a link to do that in every post. The moderators put the link there as an alternative to conflicts within the thread.
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I remember reading about it months ago but forgot about it. I only remembered after the Best Buy delivery tech tried to connect my coaxial cable to the TV, but couldn't.
I guess now the question is what are you going to do with the display that you bought unless an exchange is available to you through BB. It seems that 3D and tuners are on their way out. I didn't buy 3D, and I've never used our tuner.

I complain every day about Comcast, and that does me no good at all.
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2. Dolby Digital does not work when casting Netflix, vudu and hbo go. It does work with 4k youtube. Denon 2112… Yes I have tried several different cables; Amazon basics newest cables, cable mart elite 22 gbps, and various other high speed cables lying around. For some reason with Vudu hdx movies I received DD but not 4k.
That's working as intended since HDX is a 1080p format.

Do you have the higher level Netflix package that lets you stream 4k content? Have you also checked your internet to make sure you have the bandwidth needed to stream? Are you wired or wireless connection to your display?
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Update:

I talked to my guy at Magnolia. The earliest I'd be able to have a 75'' P Series inside my home is mid July. That's not to say I would definitely, just that's the earliest it could happen. The next shipment is in about a month + time it'd take to ship to me. Honestly unsure what to do here... either sit on my hands for a month and a half or just get an OLED. He said he's honestly confused why Vizio is so far behind on shipments for the set. Maybe they didn't anticipate the demand?


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I talked to my guy at Magnolia. The earliest I'd be able to have a 75'' P Series inside my home is mid July. That's not to say I would definitely, just that's the earliest it could happen. The next shipment is in about a month + time it'd take to ship to me. Honestly unsure what to do here... either sit on my hands for a month and a half or just get an OLED. He said he's honestly confused why Vizio is so far behind on shipments for the set. Maybe they didn't anticipate the demand?


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Are you looking at the 2016 LG OLED sets at 65"? They seem to be great, but I would be careful to check out the 2015 line.

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I talked to my guy at Magnolia. The earliest I'd be able to have a 75'' P Series inside my home is mid July. That's not to say I would definitely, just that's the earliest it could happen. The next shipment is in about a month + time it'd take to ship to me. Honestly unsure what to do here... either sit on my hands for a month and a half or just get an OLED. He said he's honestly confused why Vizio is so far behind on shipments for the set. Maybe they didn't anticipate the demand?
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I just talked to Vizio and they said my P75 will ship on the 30th day. The website says "within 30 days" so they're making sure by shipping right on the 30th day.

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Do you perhaps have everything set up correctly?
HDMI 5...Game mode on...CA off (even with it on doesn't seem to make a difference). All processing off. Not sure what else there is. My xbox is set to 1080p with 24hz checked off. And for color space it's on Standard. PC RGB SETTING X1 makes everything crushed color wise and black wise. Plus it does nothing as far as the double ghosting.

Would a 120hz have the same issues? I would imagine this has to do with pixel response not refresh rate. The P55 is back down in price so I'm debating. Still have until 6/25 to decide. Everything else is great though minus viewing angle obviously
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Try setting the color space to RGB. IIRC, earlier in this thread someone also said to turn on HDMI Sub Sampling for the Port from the pc.
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Does anybody still not have the new firmware? As of last night mine still hadn't updated.
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I have an HDR/Dolby Vision question regarding my P50.

I finally upgraded my Netflix account to allow for 4K/HDR content, and I can't see any color or contrast improvements while casting Marco Polo through my P50. Maybe I am expecting too much, but I really don't see any difference at all from a non-HDR stream of the same content. I do see some additional resolution, though at a normal viewing distance, that difference is predictably minor over 1080p.

First thing I did was check System-->System Info to make sure the display was receiving HDR content. It definitely reads that it is receiving 4K resolution and "HDR: Yes." I also cycled the display off and on, and rebooted the tablet for good measure. I can also verify that my calibrated dark setting seems to have changed to the dolby vision mode (the backlight automatically went to 50).

I watched for a while, trying to look for more vivid colors, better contrast, more impressive detail in mixed light/dark scenes. Nothing "popped" for me any more than with normal 4K content I've streamed to this display from youtube, or other 4k, non-HDR content from Netflix.

As an experiment, I watched a scene in 4K Dolby Vision, then switched the input to my roku 3, and watched the same scene in 1080p/non-HDR. The colors and contrast looked pretty identical to my eye. The only difference I could see between the two was a resolution bump in the 4K (even this was pretty difficult to see from my couch, which you'd expect). My couch is 6 feet from my TV.

Obviously, I don't have a side-by-side comparison of the two feeds on the same display, but I was doing my best to watch intently for what I've come to expect from HDR video. I also simultaneously cast a 4K/Dolby Vision Marco Polo and the same scene on my iPad, which wouldn't get the Dolby Vision. I held them next to each other and watched for a while. I really couldn't see a difference.

So my question is this: is dolby vision really that subtle? Since the system info says "HDR: Yes," can I safely assume I'm really getting an HDR feed? What specifically should I be looking for when trying to see the benefits of Dolby Vision on Netflix's Marco Polo? Should I change any of the display settings? Is there any chance this is a hardware/firmware bug?

Thanks so much for reading through this! I'm thoroughly impressed with this display for watching normal 1080p and 4K content, but my first foray into dolby vision has left me scratching my head about what HDR/WCG is supposed to offer.
I had the same feeling when I first got the P50. I was hard pressed to see the difference between regular 4K and Dolby Vision. Everyone on this thread was like "wow" and I was left feeling "meh". Just like you, I verified the settings and cycled through inputs, factory reset, called Vizio... etc. Compared to my Samsung JS8500, no big difference. Maybe the P50s don't have that great of a WCG

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Does anybody still not have the new firmware? As of last night mine still hadn't updated.
Just got mine sometime between 11:30 last night and 4:30 today. Try a few service checks throughout the night. If you want you can try the "setup new device" trick that worked for many here.
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Oh, interesting, and good to know! I haven't ponied up for any Vudu movies yet, but I've been planning to watch Pacific Rim in 4K/HDR when I do. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is less than impressed with the HDR Marco Polo, and thrilled that this seems to be more about the content than the display.
I'm going to wait until Pacific Rim comes out on UHD disc in August so that I can compare the HDR10 to the Dolby Vision.

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Does anybody still not have the new firmware? As of last night mine still hadn't updated.
I still don't have it either. I don't have too many issues with the display (besides random tablet pairing issues) so no big deal. The only thing I want is HDR10. I read somewhere on AVS forum that Vizio may be waiting for Dynamic HDR to be released before giving us the update. Not trying to start no rumors though.

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I have an HDR/Dolby Vision question regarding my P50.

I finally upgraded my Netflix account to allow for 4K/HDR content, and I can't see any color or contrast improvements while casting Marco Polo through my P50. Maybe I am expecting too much, but I really don't see any difference at all from a non-HDR stream of the same content. I do see some additional resolution, though at a normal viewing distance, that difference is predictably minor over 1080p.

First thing I did was check System-->System Info to make sure the display was receiving HDR content. It definitely reads that it is receiving 4K resolution and "HDR: Yes." I also cycled the display off and on, and rebooted the tablet for good measure. I can also verify that my calibrated dark setting seems to have changed to the dolby vision mode (the backlight automatically went to 50).

I watched for a while, trying to look for more vivid colors, better contrast, more impressive detail in mixed light/dark scenes. Nothing "popped" for me any more than with normal 4K content I've streamed to this display from youtube, or other 4k, non-HDR content from Netflix.

As an experiment, I watched a scene in 4K Dolby Vision, then switched the input to my roku 3, and watched the same scene in 1080p/non-HDR. The colors and contrast looked pretty identical to my eye. The only difference I could see between the two was a resolution bump in the 4K (even this was pretty difficult to see from my couch, which you'd expect). My couch is 6 feet from my TV.

Obviously, I don't have a side-by-side comparison of the two feeds on the same display, but I was doing my best to watch intently for what I've come to expect from HDR video. I also simultaneously cast a 4K/Dolby Vision Marco Polo and the same scene on my iPad, which wouldn't get the Dolby Vision. I held them next to each other and watched for a while. I really couldn't see a difference.

So my question is this: is dolby vision really that subtle? Since the system info says "HDR: Yes," can I safely assume I'm really getting an HDR feed? What specifically should I be looking for when trying to see the benefits of Dolby Vision on Netflix's Marco Polo? Should I change any of the display settings? Is there any chance this is a hardware/firmware bug?

Thanks so much for reading through this! I'm thoroughly impressed with this display for watching normal 1080p and 4K content, but my first foray into dolby vision has left me scratching my head about what HDR/WCG is supposed to offer.
ScaryLarry, I sort of feel the same way but I think that it is just marco polo. On my 65, it seemed a little dark and not too vibrant. I have not tried a Vudu DV movie yet, which many have said are awesome. MP seems like it was filmed with a certain "darkness". It does seem incredibly realistic and crisp, though. I have seen DV flip on and off and definitely did notice a difference between non-hdr and hdr modes.

I was going to tell you to follow the procedure to assure DV kicks on, but I re read your post and see that you did. You could try playing with the gamma settings to see which looks best to you (but not any others). 2.4 gamma will have more color but will be darker, 1.8 or 2.0 will be much brighter, but you will loose a little color vividness. 2.2 should be what it is set on by default (i think) and will be a nice balance.
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I still don't have it either. I don't have too many issues with the display (besides random tablet pairing issues) so no big deal. The only thing I want is HDR10. I read somewhere on AVS forum that Vizio may be waiting for Dynamic HDR to be released before giving us the update. Not trying to start no rumors though.

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Isn't it amazing that you just did start a rumor that disregards the latest confirmation from Matt McRae.

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