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post #30751 of 36874 Old 11-28-2017, 12:38 PM
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Wow, just WOW on the disrespect being shown in this thread lately towards @Rudy1 . What makes matters worse is it is people who are fairly new to the forum and the thread. Go back and actually read what he said. Because if memory serves, he said the updates would start rolling out. You've waited this long, you can wait a little longer with the rest of us.

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Don't blame the messenger blame useless Samsung. My next set is a Sony.
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I’D LIKE TO CONVEY MY APPRECIATION TO THOSE OF YOU WHO’VE SHOWN YOUR SUPPORT VIA POSTS AND/OR LIKES. Thanks to the posts today from wotudo, thegam3, and Tigerriot (as well as dozens of others from other members over the past 18 months), I have decided to change the manner in which I participate on the AVS Forum.
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100% false, no he hasn't. It's impossible to read his very clear posts as saying that; you are being thoroughly disingenuous and behaving dishonestly about a well-respected poster who has done the entire community a massive favour.


Actually, false. That's not a fact. That's your nasty, spiteful, carefully worded vague accusation which helps no-one and just embarrasses you.
There seems to be a cult of personality on this forum regarding Rudy that I cannot relate to.

In Rudy's own post from earlier today he directly acknowledges having given a late November time frame for this firmware update, and you're accusing me of being "disingenuous". lol
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Don't blame the messenger blame useless Samsung. My next set is a Sony.
. Go take alook at the Sony UBD X800 deck. I own one.

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so uh.... decided to check the thread for the HDR game mode firmware.... looks like that's a no then eh? Looks like a giant **** show in here right now...

Oh well, honestly I haven't even touched my PS4 for a few months so if it takes a bit longer to arrive I'm ok with that. As long as this is something that is still happening that it all I care about.

I'll check in again in a few weeks.
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I just installed 1209 as an upgrade from 1207. I timed the process on my watch from 0% to 100%. It took 1m43s.

It's not good to provide unwarranted/unsubstantiated speculation like you have. That is how crazy rumors start.
Im just reporting my experience. Im glad it installs properly for other people. I've installed every update that has been released for this set and this time happen to take the longest to install. I do have a problem with custom color space and I hope that it doesn't effect others the same way. I did a reset by unplugging and a second hard reset by entering service menu and there has been no change.

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Just to give people one example of Rudy's claims not adding up. Here is a post from a few days ago where he claims to have this game mode HDR firmware update on his Q9, but he says he can't test it because he doesn't have a game console anymore.

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GAME MODE HDR:

Distribution of the firmware update has already begun (I have it on my Q9 but cannot test it because I no longer have a game console). This update will trigger HDR settings (color space, brightness, contrast, etc.) while in GAME MODE.
You don't need a game console to test if the game mode HDR has been fixed. You can simply put your tv in game mode, and then send it an HDR signal from any device. Does the tv auto switch to HDR picture settings or not? That is all that needs to be done to know if this problem has been fixed. Rudy seems to believe that a game console is needed to test this when that isn't true at all.

Reading his posts I do not get the impression he understands this game mode HDR problem at all.
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Im just reporting my experience. Im glad it installs properly for other people. I've installed every update that has been released for this set and this time happen to take the longest to install. I do have a problem with custom color space and I hope that it doesn't effect others the same way. I did a reset by unplugging and a second hard reset by entering service menu and there has been no change.
That doesn't sound great. Hope it gets resolved soon.

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I have decided to change the manner in which I participate on the AVS Forum.
Unfortunate to hear, but understandable. Know that there are quite a few people here, myself included, who appreciate the time and effort you invested into this on our behalf. As an owner of multiple hdr capable consoles, I still plan to provide as much feedback as possible once I get my hands on the firmware. If there is anywhere else you'd like us to post our feedback that would be helpful as well, simply let us know. Thanks!
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so uh.... decided to check the thread for the HDR game mode firmware.... looks like that's a no then eh?
It's a "not yet" at the moment, one day after the earliest day it was ever expected to appear.

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Looks like a giant **** show in here right now...
The attitude of some posters, yes I agree; today's posts complaining are pretty unbelievable.


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Oh well, honestly I haven't even touched my PS4 for a few months so if it takes a bit longer to arrive I'm ok with that. As long as this is something that is still happening that it all I care about.

I'll check in again in a few weeks.
Perfect, that is a good healthy attitude. If only others were as reasonable as you

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I was looking for some HDR10 so I went to Fandango Now app on KS8000. I did find some HDR10 titles I owned.

Atomic Blonde
Spider-Man Homecoming
Snow White & the Huntsman

All were HDR10. They listed some others I don't own Pirates Dead Men was one. Others I own showed up HD or SD. LUCY came up UHD but no HDR10.

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Why not have a bit of patience first before you slaughter the guy? Let's give it some time for the update to make it through the channels first and see. I don't see anything to make me believe Rudy1 has mislead us or been "yanking our chain". I see someone who has gone out of his way to help in whatever way he can to get something added to our TV's that everyone wants. He doesn't even game himself but has put work in to help everyone , even YOU, get a feature that people really want. I have nothing but gratitude for his work and am certainly willingly to wait for the updates to arrive, without defecating on Rudy1 while I wait.
Instead of asking me to be patient, or accusing people of being spoiled brats, has it occurred to you to ask Rudy to explain this post right here?

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post55180078

6 days ago he was claiming he had the Game Mode HDR firmware on his own TV. Today he's not saying that anymore.....
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6 days ago he was claiming he had the Game Mode HDR firmware on his own TV. Today he's not saying that anymore.....
Not the same TV hence not the same firmware....

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1209 took about 20 minutes to install from USB, just a heads up for anyone else as impatient as me

I'd speculate thats its a full rewrite of the firmware in preparation of future updates to come.

Edit: Looks like "Custom" ColorSpace is now broke! Anyone using the Custom color setting might want hold off on this update or until more reports are posted..
Took 2 minutes just like every other update for me.

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Firmware update to Asia/Middle East Chassis (T-JZMUABC) is out today @ 1208.2 Firmware. Which is the one that UK receive roughly 2 weeks ago.

Considering it took close to 3 darn months to release 1203 on Asia, quite a big improvement this time.
Cool, thanks for posting that. Current state of play for anyone else who cares

T-JZMDEUC: ....................v1208.2 (14th Nov), ..........................v1203.6 (27th Sep)
T-JZMAKUC: v1209.0 (28th Nov), .....................v1208.0 (9th Nov), [...] v1203.6 ( 5th Sep)
T-JZMUABC: ................... v1208.2 [28th Nov*], .........................v1203.6 [1st Oct†]

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newbie here, but been following this thread since I got the TV last November. Its unfortunate the sudden turn and disregard to someone whos given us time and effort in this situation, and seriously people need to chill out. I think 1209 is a stability update, and not the one everyone is hoping for. Its unfortunate that it came out now out of all times, but relax. There was even times where I did not receive an update to this TV for weeks until after everyone else received it, so I don't think this is the one.
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It's here! HDMI 2.1 is here with 10K and Dynamic HDR support.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/28/...able-with-10k/

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I get the feeling some folks here had dramatic firmware discussions over Thanksgiving instead of politics!

Boy, back in my day we didn't even have 'Game Mode.'

But HDR is awesome!

I don't want to hear anymore of that Fourkay HD whatever nonsense. It's ruining our country!


Oh you just don't get it, grandpa.

Oh I surely do. You got them dynamic ranges and white points and HDMI and all sorts of diseases in college. Yup. Corruptin' our youth!


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I’D LIKE TO CONVEY MY APPRECIATION TO THOSE OF YOU WHO’VE SHOWN YOUR SUPPORT VIA POSTS AND/OR LIKES. Thanks to the posts today from wotudo, thegam3, and Tigerriot (as well as dozens of others from other members over the past 18 months), I have decided to change the manner in which I participate on the AVS Forum.
I've been reading this thread for a while. I was not planning on posting, but I wanted to voice my support and thanks for the updates and information you have provided. I hope that you will continue to provide us with updates, because many of us appreciate any information we can get. I also made sure to submit a ticket to Samsung requesting the Game Mode HDR fix, figuring the more data they have the better! I'll also be happy to provide feedback once the fix is live.

I suggest patience and respect. It is fair to ask questions, but keep it respectful. We are all here as part of a supportive community!
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I’D LIKE TO CONVEY MY APPRECIATION TO THOSE OF YOU WHO’VE SHOWN YOUR SUPPORT VIA POSTS AND/OR LIKES. Thanks to the posts today from wotudo, thegam3, and Tigerriot (as well as dozens of others from other members over the past 18 months), I have decided to change the manner in which I participate on the AVS Forum.
Rudy, keep up the good work, many appreciate the work you do. I believe the fact other forums have KS8000 threads which regularly reference this forum and use your posts as "hope" (I guess, since most are gamers), probably contributed to the "new users" influx for this firmware.

Link: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...08315&page=195
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Sorry mate but I do believe in my equipment not in what you read around the web.



You ref point is your panel uncalibrated. Using somebody else setting only screw things up. You are talking about calibration and you never calibrated a set. I can see it from what you are writing.
Huh? Dude I literally just said the same thing to you a few posts back or at least I thought I did. It was late. I got my 65" 8500 ISF calibrated. I assumed that not many of the settings changed while in HDR mode based off of articles and review i've read.

You're THAT GUY on this thread asking for someone else's white balance settings. Not me. You might want to re-read my post. SDR is the mode that the TV is in when it is not displaying HDR correct? Maybe i've got understanding of what that stands for.

Other than that you guys are literally repeating what I said back to me.
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After reading through the posts since last night. Im going back to lurker status. People don't seem to appreciate the fact that we're even at this point. Last year all of the complaints fell on deaf ears. This year Samsung is rolling out a firmware that changes the way that they had originally intended the tv to work. Thanks again Rudy1. Cant wait til that firmware drops.
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You're THAT GUY on this thread asking for someone else's white balance settings. Not me. You might want to re-read my post. SDR is the mode that the TV is in when it is not displaying HDR correct? Maybe i've got understanding of what that stands for.
Just in case this is the cause of the misunderstanding: one of the most confusing things about how Samsung have implemented the HDR settings is that they "swap" with SDR, but they don't change the name of the Picture Settings.

So you have, using the modes for which this works:
Movie
Standard
the HDR+ "special Viewing mode".
etc.

Each of the presets I have listed above actually store two completely separate sets of numbers. So you effectively have
Movie (with HDR settings)
Movie (with SDR settings)
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Standard (with SDR settings)
HDR+ "special Viewing mode" (with HDR settings)
HDR+ "special Viewing mode" (with SDR settings)

So they store 6 complete sets of values not 3.

When you are in "Movie" mode, you can check whether the incoming signal is HDR by pressing Info and checking for [HDR] on the onscreen display, or - see if it's switched its settings from the "SDR" set, with a low backlight, to the "HDR" set, with a high backlight.

Other manufacturers don't do this - they force you to dedicate one picture mode to SDR, and another to HDR. So even though it's confusing at first, I think it's better than what we might have got.

Samsung doesn't make it at all clear that this is happening. You have to realise it's storing two sets, and adjust each one at the right time (ie play HDR content to make it switch).

So back on topic, the WB settings for Movie-HDR would/could be different to those for Movie-SDR. If you have one set of values, and someone's told you them, you haven't automatically got the other set as well if they didn't tell you .

It's probably not the cause of the misunderstanding here, but I thought it worth posting in case.

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No body is required to answer questions. If they are silent on the topic...guess what it's time to move on vs beating the topic to death. You are also welcome to use the ignore feature, that's what it's there for. Infractions have been issued and one person banned from posting in the thread for two weeks.

If we have to come back again, then suspensions maybe in order...as well as a perma-ban from posting in this thread.
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I send you a pm, but like I said I would leave 2 point white balance untouched if not calibrated. Try the settings and let me know how it works out.
Thanks for taking the time out to copy them for me.

I'll let you know tomorrow how I get on
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