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Having just recently set everything up, the only thing I can't figure out is how do I program the universal remote to turn on my TV along with my Sony receiver. I have them hooked up via optical at the moment. If I could figure that out, then I'd really have no reason to use my Harmony 650 anymore.

I've figured out how to pair the receiver to each HDMI (DTV and Xbox) in order to control volume on the receiver- just can't figure out the power.

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A not good enough hdmi cable will cause that issue dante. But of course I can't be sure what your issue is really.

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So for everyone with DirecTV are you using the RVU client or a DTV box?

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What are you watching? Depending on the input source, the TV might be switching refresh rate to match the source input (i.e. 24p from a PC if your PC is normally running 60hz).
mkv or just having the desktop showing while playing some music through winamp....


I was watching batman vs superman over my pc in mkv yesterday, no problems, with this cable https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

today I see those black screen stutters.
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So issues with back panel and general what not anyone think getting square trade protection is worth it. Anyone not getting a extended warranty when you bought it?

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So issues with back panel and general what not anyone think getting square trade protection is worth it. Anyone not getting a extended warranty when you bought it?
This is another personal preference thing (like the white balance setting). People will argue back and forth about whether it is a waste of money.

IMHO, these TVs are not made like they were years ago. When I was a kid, TVs lasted forever. Not anymore.

The Costco warranty to extend from the given 2 years to a total of 5 years is $89. I think I am going to get it.
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So for everyone with DirecTV are you using the RVU client or a DTV box?

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I am a DTV technician and I would only recommend someone use a box. RVU has gotten better but it is still sluggish compared to a box right at the TV. Plus you still need a coax cable and adapter to plug into the TV to connect the TV to the DTV coax network within your home. Plus you still have to pay the same amount as if you had a box for RVU.

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Damn you Netflix where is my HDR. Amazon seem to be more committed. I've used my sons email to start a 30 day free trial to watch this - hate the show but love HDR!
I don't have this TV yet, but I thought I read that the Netflix app on the TV supports HDR. Is this not true?

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mkv or just having the desktop showing while playing some music through winamp....


I was watching batman vs superman over my pc in mkv yesterday, no problems, with this cable https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

today I see those black screen stutters.
Not sure what to tell you. Sounds like a source or cable issue to me, though. Have you got another system/cable you can try?
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I don't have this TV yet, but I thought I read that the Netflix app on the TV supports HDR. Is this not true?


Built in Netflix app supports it. Just not YouTube yet.


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Okay, returned the Vansky bias lights and put up the ones from biaslighting.com. The bit of blue tint is gone. Currently have it set at 20%.

Are the ones from biaslighting.com worth the price? What is the difference between all of the ones on Amazon?

Does bias lighting make a big difference in picture quality? I have never used it before?

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XBOX One should be set standard RGB. And indeed, it's always blacked out on the TV when running the XBOX, so don't worry about that.

And yes, we all agree with you on the last point. Samsung really need to get on fixing that implementation of the settings!
mine is NOT greyed out when a movie is playing on the Xbox (STD or UHD)
is this something I have wrong in my settings? tried a new High speed cable with no change
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mine is NOT greyed out when a movie is playing on the Xbox (STD or UHD)
is this something I have wrong in my settings? tried a new High speed cable with no change
I know it's greyed out during HDR gaming. Can't speak for any other time.
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Are the ones from biaslighting.com worth the price? What is the difference between all of the ones on Amazon?

Does bias lighting make a big difference in picture quality? I have never used it before?

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Bias lighting "can" make a difference. Me? I find it to be more distracting than any perceived lack of black level, but then again it's all personal preference.
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Does the KS8500 have better blacks and contrast than the KS8000? I saw a KS850D at a Sam's CLub today and it looked as good as the OLED LG that was on display. I have a KS800D and the KS850D seemed more uniform in its blacks and more consistent contrast across the screen. The Sam's Club was brighter than my TV room but dim compared to how Best Buy stores usually are, so it was not all the lighting.

Both the 4K.com and rtings.com reviews of both the KS8000 and KS8500 find the KS8500 to have slightly deeper blacks and more contrast than the KS8000. That could be panel differences in what they tested but based on the display KS850D it seem to be the case.

Any posters tried both in same environment? Opinions?

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Does the KS8500 have better blacks and contrast than the KS8000? I saw a KS850D at a Sam's CLub today and it looked as good as the OLED LG that was on display. I have a KS800D and the KS850D seemed more uniform in its blacks and more consistent contrast across the screen. The Sam's Club was brighter than my TV room but dim compared to how Best Buy stores usually are, so it was not all the lighting.



Both the 4K.com and rtings.com reviews of both the KS8000 and KS8500 find the KS8500 to have deeper blacks and more contrast than the KS8000. That could be panel differences in what they tested but based on the display KS850D it seem to be the case.



Any posters tried both in same environment? Opinions?


I think the curve just reflects less ambient light so it looks like it has deeper blacks. Or just panel variance.


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I know it's greyed out during HDR gaming. Can't speak for any other time.
HDR gaming is great, just been curious about why a blue-ray is different
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HDR gaming is great, just been curious about why a blue-ray is different
Because it's sending a different signal to the display.
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I think I tested the XBOne with this and came to the conclusion that PC RGB crushed the black massively.

But some people tend not to notice or be bothered by this.

For example, check out this video at this timestamp (24 seconds). Pause the video right there, and look - this guy says it looks better with PC RGB ON. Not sure why he thinks that as the details on the truck are just... lost to blackness. The consensus is that PC RGB is broken on XBOX One.
Yeah, I like standard more in that video though PC RGB has some interesting parts.

Just so we're not confused on the terms it's either STANDARD vs. PC RGB. It's not "Standard RGB"

I'm leaving it on standard. 10-bit color depth.
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I've figured out how to pair the receiver to each HDMI (DTV and Xbox) in order to control volume on the receiver- just can't figure out the power.[/QUOTE]

how did you do that? I could only figure out how to combine the sound bar with one input
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When the guys are sitting at the table and talking to the audience, do you notice any blur with their hands/fingers? I do with any automotion settings. If you are not seeing blur, what setting are you on?
I did notice that in their fingers when hands moved. I just figured it's due to being an online stream. I could be wrong though.

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Just got the TV today and installed bias lighting. I like the bias lighting. Definitely easing eye strain on HDR in a dark room.

I just bought a $14 kohree 35.4" strip off Amazon.
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Having just recently set everything up, the only thing I can't figure out is how do I program the universal remote to turn on my TV along with my Sony receiver. I have them hooked up via optical at the moment. If I could figure that out, then I'd really have no reason to use my Harmony 650 anymore.

I've figured out how to pair the receiver to each HDMI (DTV and Xbox) in order to control volume on the receiver- just can't figure out the power.
That's more of a Harmony question than a Samsung TV question but basically you have to create am action like "watch TV" and then when you click the "watch TV" action, the TV will power up along with all other components you set to in that activity.

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I did notice that in their fingers when hands moved. I just figured it's due to being an online stream. I could be wrong though.
Could it be the 60fps? Definitely seemed like it was 60fps streaming.
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I've been a sound bar user for years, but am currently considering switching to a home theater system with a Sony receiver. I have a question about how that would integrate with the KS8000. If I use the receiver for HDMI pass through and only connect to the TV via the ARC from the receiver, how does the input experience change for the TV? will i have to manually change inputs on the receiver, or will things work as they do currently with all my HDMI's connected to the TV's one connect: power something on it switches to that input, custom settings for each input, etc.
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Hi
I have intel nuc (mini pc) and when I connect it to the tv, the movie mode becomes missing and I can't enable HDR+
how can I use movie setting with this pc ?
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Not sure what to tell you. Sounds like a source or cable issue to me, though. Have you got another system/cable you can try?
looks like the new nvidia drivers were ****ty. I went to the old ones and no issues any longer.
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looks like the new nvidia drivers were ****ty. I went to the old ones and no issues any longer.
There you go. Figured the source was the issue. Drivers are a pain in the butt. Glad you got it fixed!
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Wow, long thread and lots of info.... Anyhow I decided to take the plunge on the Samsung epp deal and get the 65" KS8000 for 1079 + 10% Discover cash back. It was between this and the Costco 70" LG set for $999 yesterday (plus uhaul rental to get it home...). This will be replacing a 5 year old LG 60" pv250 plasma. Has anyone had any experience with ordering direct from Samsung before?
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Are the ones from biaslighting.com worth the price? What is the difference between all of the ones on Amazon?

Does bias lighting make a big difference in picture quality? I have never used it before?

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Most brands of bias lights from all the major companies (Antec, Vlasky, etc.) are unfortunately almost always too "cool"/"blue". Even when they claim to be ~6500K (which is what you want), they are usually always cooler. Also, it doesn't help that the "silicone" coating on some of those light strips is of a bluish tint.

This is one of the main reasons that I now recommend the ones from www.biaslighting.com

>> The MediaLight 6500K Bias Lighting System <<

- 6500K Correlated Colour Temperature (CCT)

- Colour Rendering Index (CRI) of 90+ (actually ~94)

- Plug into any USB port (5V) but also include an AC Adapter

- Attach with peel and stick 3M adhesive (also include wire routing clips)

- Are fully dimmable and even come with a small RF remote

- Have a 5 Year Limited Warranty

- And they come highly recommended by people in the industry

- You can choose between a single 140cm strip, ideal for TV's on stands, or twin 61cm strips, ideal for wall mounting


About BiasLighting.com (Scenic Labs, LLC):

BiasLighting.com is a division of Scenic Labs. Founded in 2009, they are the publishers of Joe Kane's Digital Video Essentials (HD Basics, UHD, and more), as well as Knowhow Picture Perfect -- the top selling TV optimisation programme in the world.


And NO, I do not work for this company or have any affiliations with them whatsoever. Nor am I being paid to recommend their lights (I wish would be nice). However, I have had conversations with the Director of MediaLight (Jason Rosenfeld).



For general info about "Bias Lights", check out this article:

>> What Bias Lighting Is and Why You Should Be Using It <<


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