So, any ideas how to reduce blur while in game mode? It's awfully limited and makes horizontal scrolling look terrible, but lag is too high outside of game mode. I'm probably going to take this back and wait for the next wave of oled if this isn't fixable

These are the modes disabled when in Game Mode. I suppose all other options are free to tweak as needed.



-Digital Clean View

-Auto Motion Plus

-HDMI Black Level

-10 Point White Balance

-RGB Only Mode



I have yet to game with the KS8000. I suppose I need to give it a go as yet another test for this TV myself...

Yeah, that's the problem, auto motion plus anti blur is the only thing that makes it smooth as it should be, but you need game mode off to tweak it, which means that the input lag is terrible on non 4K sources. In gaming circles this tv is being hailed as the second coming and a lot of people are picking it up for the PS4 pro

Just noticed it's another new update. Second one this week.

I watch and play in a light controlled room in total darkness. Outside of the minimal light bleed, I've noticed no blooming or issues that have made me regret my decision to buy this television. You can ask what people think, but opinions are always going to vary. Bottom line, how does it look to you and do you have an electronics store outside of Costco and Best Buy that has it being displayed in a low lit room?

Like I said, I cannot attest for any blur or lag yet, and it's interesting you bring it up. Rtings loved this set:



"We played a lot of video games on the KS8000 and never found motion blur to be an issue. We played first person shooters, combat and racing games. As a whole, we enjoyed the experience better on the KS8000 than on other Samsung 2015 TVs we have played on."



However, if you notice it, that's all that counts. And if it's that bad for you, and there isn't a way to tweak it, you may have to hold off for that next round of OLED - that is if they've figured out input lag by then on those sets.

Yeah 1152.1 dated today.
Maybe it is HDR auto switching in Game mode!


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Different calculators and different posts in this forum seem to suggest different things regarding distance. My TV lives off to the right from my computer in my bedroom. I watch stuff / play games on it (while doing actual work/web surfing/etc on my computer monitor which is much smaller). What do you mean by 52" would be good? (If you mean screen size, for the KS8000 its 49 or 55 -- I was thinking the 49 because of the savings and because it would be a little easier to rotate it a bit to improve the viewing angle from my desk)

Regarding the rest: Thanks for the info. I guess there's no knowing with the light bloom (unless someone else offers their own experience on that) but I guess its probably ok (I hope). If the upscaling for DVD content seems good to you that's a big relief (I have many years 480p/i content that I'd hate to render unwatchable).

Regarding the UHD Blu Ray player: Hmm, interesting. Considering the relatively small number of titles available at the moment I'm considering holding off a few months on that, but I'm not sure. Amazon *was* running a good deal on the samsung UBD-K8500 but they seem to have ended that.

[edit] I totally should have properly quoted your response, sorry!

Yes I remember you saying that Samsung dropped BD Wise for 2016 models. here is a link scroll down to see full specs BD Wise plus
http://www.samsung.com/us/television...n60ks8000fxza/

Hey guys, thinking about pulling the trigger on the 60" 8000 today.

When I posted that 52" would be good, it mainly meant that I'm losing my ability to do arithmetic in my head. (4.5 feet is 54"). All that I really intended is that 4.5 feet would be an appropriate distance to appreciate 4k. Better than the distance I usually view my 49" TV at.

Blooming and light bleed are issues that are rather personality-dependent. Some people can't bear seeing bleed into the black bars when viewing a movie with an aspect ratio greater than 1.78:1. One European review site basically declares all LCD TVs (including FALD ones with hundreds of backlight zones) unacceptable because they all show blooming that was detectable under some circumstances (small bright images in a totally black surround). Only OLEDs are OK for that site. (That seems a bit less crazy at the moment, as 55" LG OLEDs are now available for $1800US.)

Yes I remember you saying that Samsung dropped BD Wise for 2016 models. here is a link scroll down to see full specs BD Wise plus
http://www.samsung.com/us/television...n60ks8000fxza/

It's not a feature that I care about, but it's absent on my 49" model.

I flowed the link, and see that it lists BD Wise Plus.

The 49", 55", and 65" models don't list it.

Can anyone confirm that it's actually present on the 60" model? I suspect an error on the web page.

Thanks, yeah I've got it set at 1080i at the moment. I've also tried 720p as well. Which one of those is the better signal to feed this TV?

Also I've got my Onkyo set to simply pass the video signal through.

I'm on the fence with the ks8000 or ks8500.

The more I think about these two, the more I start contradicting myself.

My cable source is Cox, which is 1080i or 720p. With tv's now coming with HDR10 and Dolby Vision, would that even matter if I am not streaming anything that is 4k and HDR applicable?

Would it be best to just snag a tv under $600 that does not come with the latest technology if my source is not that which can produce what the newer technology can produce?

Does that make sense?

Basically, If I am not streaming 4k or HDR content, and just watching sports on basic cable, do I need all the new bells and whistles at this point or am I better off waiting a few years until cable starts pushing out more HDR content?

I purchased the M65-D0 last week at Best Buy for $1149, then came back and got them to price match Costco's $999.99 deal. I had a ton of issues getting the thing to work to my liking, namely due to smartcast not working well in my network configuration. I am generally not a fan of having to use the tablet for configuring picture settings, but I could get used to it. I'm currently having issues playing HDR Bluray content on the Xbox One S, and, after reading more reviews, I think ultimately, although the M65-D0 is a great deal, i'm going to be disappointed with the lack of color quality due to it being an 8 bit panel. So i'm going to return the thing and spend an extra $500 for either the P65-C1 or 65KS8000. I read some review sites and they favor the vizio. I read others that favor the Samsung. I really don't know who to believe, so i'm hoping some of you out there can help me make a decision based on your personal observations. Here are my viewing habits/priorities/TV room setup:

1. HDR content. Although I probably wont spend the most TIME watching HDR movies (due to limited availability), its the #1 reason i'm buying a tv. This is not my "general use" TV. its a TV in my "man cave." 90% of the time, i'll be watching movies, or shows on HBO like Game of Thrones, Westworld, etc. For HRD content, I want to watch Mad Max, The Martian, Sicario, and really be blown away by how amazing the colors look. I want the colors to POP. Just as important to me are the black levels. I'm coming from an old LG LCD and "bleeding" annoys the crap out of me. If i'm watching a movie, I want the letterboxes to be as close to black as possible. If i'm watching a movie set in space, I don't want to see a glow around a ship or other object moving across the screen. I also hate "banding" that I generally only notice when watching a movie and it pans up to show the sky.

2. The TV needs to handle cable broadcastsports motion well. I want a little "blockiness/pixilation" when watching cable content as possible.

3. Although most of the time I will be watching the TV in a dark room, there will be times i'll be watching during the day (sports mostly). Unfortunately, the way the room is configured, there is a window sitting behind where my couch is, aimed directly at the TV, so a set to reduce reflection or just be bright enough to counteract the glare, would be awesome.

4. The room is longer than it is wide. As such, I'm not concerned about needing to have wider viewing angle.

5. Although I have an xbox one S, I mainly use it because I like how it incorporates my Cable TV, has tons of streaming apps, and a Bluray player, all in one. I will rarely, if ever, play games on the TV so gaming is not important at all, HDR, or otherwise.

As KS8000 owners, can you provide any advise on how the Samsung would meet my needs? I'm somewhat concerned about the black levels/blooming from some of the reviews I have read, but everything else sounds like its great (aside from lack of dolby vision support).

Yes. It will. Samsung KS series is comparable with Vizio P series. Samsung KU series is comparable with Vizio M series. Totally different league for HDR.

I'm a little underwhelmed at how cable looks as well. PS4 and 4K YouTube look incredible. My fios box is set to 1080p.

So, any ideas how to reduce blur while in game mode? It's awfully limited and makes horizontal scrolling look terrible, but lag is too high outside of game mode. I'm probably going to take this back and wait for the next wave of oled if this isn't fixable

Thank you for your response. What are your personal experiences with viewing HDR content, specifically black levels? Do you notice significant bleeding in dark settings? That is really my only concern with this TV. to me, it boils down to: Is better brightness of the KS enough to outweigh any blooming/bleeding as opposed to the P series vizio.

Maybe I need to exchange my FIOS box for a newer version? I can only get 1080i on mine





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Thank you for your response. What are your personal experiences with viewing HDR content, specifically black levels? Do you notice significant bleeding in dark settings? That is really my only concern with this TV. to me, it boils down to: Is better brightness of the KS enough to outweigh any blooming/bleeding as opposed to the P series vizio.