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You should contact whoever sold it to you. You contract is with them.
Agree. First contact the seller for an exhange. You can always fall back to Samsung for a panel replacement.
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Is it possible to download firmware update from EU website
FAQ. You can download it if you like...

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I really don't understand why it is taking Samsung so long to get this update to everyone.
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Welp, noticed some dead pixels on my screen, so I looked closer at the whole thing and there is a sticker on the back stating the TV is refurbished. It was listed as new on Amazon, so I just contacted support. If I wanted a refurb I could have bought one for like 700 dollars less. They said I will receive a follow up email about it within 24 hours, I imagine to arrange them picking up the tv and arranging a replacement. Does anyone else have experience with this? Really sucks, my original KS8000 was stolen a few weeks ago, I was so excited to finally have one again.
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Welp, noticed some dead pixels on my screen, so I looked closer at the whole thing and there is a sticker on the back stating the TV is refurbished. It was listed as new on Amazon, so I just contacted support. If I wanted a refurb I could have bought one for like 700 dollars less. They said I will receive a follow up email about it within 24 hours, I imagine to arrange them picking up the tv and arranging a replacement. Does anyone else have experience with this? Really sucks, my original KS8000 was stolen a few weeks ago, I was so excited to finally have one again.
Amazon is really good at dealing with customer issues. You shouldn't have any problems. Even buying from Amazon Marketplace should be fine because of Amazon's A-z guarantee.
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Agree also. Amazon has great customer service. Never had an issue with them.
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I really don't understand why it is taking Samsung so long to get this update to everyone.
Take it easy. Some of their firmware rollouts have taken weeks. @mrtickleuk has produced a graph of different firmwares showing their initial spotted in the wild dates along with the dates they were available on the UK website, and in most cases there is a bit of a delay. There have also been one or two that only went OTA to sets that had received a problematic update via OTA.
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I really don't understand why it is taking Samsung so long to get this update to everyone.
Like @Rolls-Royce said, have a little patience. Samsung tends to stagger their firmware updates. I cannot remember what my firmware was when I got my KS, but it was pretty low compared to other owners at the time. I think I honestly sat on that firmware for about 2-3 months. So imagine how giddy I was when I received my first notification
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Take it easy. Some of their firmware rollouts have taken weeks. @mrtickleuk has produced a graph of different firmwares showing their initial spotted in the wild dates along with the dates they were available on the UK website, and in most cases there is a bit of a delay. There have also been one or two that only went OTA to sets that had received a problematic update via OTA.
I don't understand the impatience for a firmware update? Surely it can't make any major difference to PG at this stage in the TV life cycle? Or am I missing something?

TBH I have never noticed ANY noticeable PQ improvements, or had any issues from any of the firmware updates since I got my TV last July. I must be lucky as it was amazing then and still is today.

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Take it easy. Some of their firmware rollouts have taken weeks. @mrtickleuk has produced a graph of different firmwares showing their initial spotted in the wild dates along with the dates they were available on the UK website, and in most cases there is a bit of a delay. There have also been one or two that only went OTA to sets that had received a problematic update via OTA.
Actually I just logged "first date reported" (on this thread, if these are OTA downloads people report) or "date shown on website" as Samsung very helpfully marks the pages with the date it was uploaded there. Red dots are the T-JZMAKUC (USA/Can/SK) chassis f/w, Blue dots are the T-JZMDEUC chassis f/w.

Inside each zip there's a text file with a build date in ISO format. I can plot those dates two but it makes the graph very busy. However on average there's a week or so between build and first report of it existing. Sometimes longer.

I definitely understand the impatience, I was getting "new firmware withdrawal" symptoms myself. v1180.5 seemed ages ago. I'd be a lot more excited if they fixed the web browser memory leak (or whatever the underlying cause of the youtube bugs are)!
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TBH I have never noticed ANY noticeable PQ improvements, or had any issues from any of the firmware updates since I got my TV last July. I must be lucky as it was amazing then and still is today.
In general I agree, I am much more concerned about new features like having HLG support (very little content), HDR10Plus support (ditto), etc. The massive one for me was getting VP9 profile 2 support last November. At a stroke, that firmware update gave us access to HDR material on YouTube; this is now close to 200 free HDR video clips (including some short films) to watch. Most other HDR TVs still can't play this from YouTube. And with 4K Blu-Ray discs being so ridiculously expensive and wonderful sites like demo-uhd3d.com being threatened with legal action unless they took down the HDR demos they were kindly sharing, having YouTube HDR is absolutely fantastic. So that's one firmware upgrade that transformed the TV for me.

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I don't understand the impatience for a firmware update? Surely it can't make any major difference to PG at this stage in the TV life cycle? Or am I missing something?

TBH I have never noticed ANY noticeable PQ improvements, or had any issues from any of the firmware updates since I got my TV last July. I must be lucky as it was amazing then and still is today.
I agree with Blenky.Can't we all just relax? It'll come to you and hopefully fix something. RELAX....
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I don't understand the impatience for a firmware update? Surely it can't make any major difference to PG at this stage in the TV life cycle? Or am I missing something?

TBH I have never noticed ANY noticeable PQ improvements, or had any issues from any of the firmware updates since I got my TV last July. I must be lucky as it was amazing then and still is today.
Relatively frequent firmware updates mean that the TV is still well supported by Samsung. There are always bugs to fix and improvements to make. Once these start to dry up you're looking at a quick jump to EOL. Samsung made promises to bring even HDR10± to the KS series, but they've been known to not deliver on their promises. If the Q line isn't doing well hey will do whatever they can to make it more attractive, and if that means early end to support for last year's flagships that is what they will do. Let's see how long this update takes and if Samsung actually delivers on their promise of HDR10+ by EoY 2017.
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And with 4K Blu-Ray discs being so ridiculously expensive
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Everything is relative, as Lord Byron said when being chased out of the UK for incest with his half sister.

I recall paying $18US for audio CDs back in 1984. A consumer price index calculator tells me that's over $40 today. I don't know what the going rates for movie discs might be in the UK at present.

Of course, the replay value of a music CD is much higher than for a UHD BluRay disk.
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My last update was 1169. It has terrible judder (jittery motion in slow camera pans - i.e. not smooth) almost all the time on Netflix movies and TV shows. (Prior updates had no noticeable judder) Has anyone that has updated specifically from 1169 to 1180 noticed a big improvement in lack of judder?
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It seems that Youtube app has become more unstable with latest FW update.. I know it is just a wrapper to TV-web version but still fast forward and rewind sometimes seems to choke whole app and sometimes make it very unresponsive.. and whole ff/rewind functionality is bad user experience with remote, better than nothing but quite awkward.

Another minor annoyance with this KS series is that it is using dynamic backlight (smartled/dynamic contrast??) even when it is set to "off". (on top of that backlight flashing bug when Smartled is set to "off")
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Everything is relative, as Lord Byron said when being chased out of the UK for incest with his half sister.




I recall paying $18US for audio CDs back in 1984. A consumer price index calculator tells me that's over $40 today. I don't know what the going rates for movie discs might be in the UK at present.
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DVD : £10 / us$13
Blu-ray: £13 / us$16.88

Both the above are fully loaded with extras which I expect and want from this brilliant format: commentaries, behind the scenes, making ofs, etc. That is very important to me indeed.

4k Blu-ray+ Blu-ray double pack: £25-£30 / us$32.50-us$39.

Hence, more than double the cost of the Blu-ray, hence imho "ridiculous"

The 4k disc is BARE BONES. There is no option to buy what I want: a fully loaded 4k disc on its own. it's being sold as a bolt-on extra to the normal Blu-ray with the expectation that you watch all the extras on that.

In the early days of Blu-ray when dvd and Blu-ray double packs were common, they didn't cost more than double, and the Blu-ray discs weren't bare bones!

Early adopters in the UK are always massively ripped off, this is not new sadly.
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My last update was 1169. It has terrible judder (jittery motion in slow camera pans - i.e. not smooth) almost all the time on Netflix movies and TV shows. (Prior updates had no noticeable judder) Has anyone that has updated specifically from 1169 to 1180 noticed a big improvement in lack of judder?
Many have done that, get out of that trash!
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Many have done that, get out of that trash!
So I bought the 55" KS8000 on May 4th and it was fine until last week when it would just not power on anymore. I was rolling with FW 1168 and was avoiding 1169 or even 1180 until I heard something.


I put in a service call and Samsung sent out at tech and he replaced the main board. After making sure it mechanically functioned I noticed that the firmware was at 1155 or something lower like that. I wanted to flash it with 1165 since I have heard that many really loved that version the best. I downloaded 1165 on a USB drive and then inserted it but when I tried to flash the bios it said I needed to restart the TV. It did not recognize the update on my USB drive yet. Upon rebooting I go back into the update menu and I see that I am now on 1180. I didn't download it, I didn't choose it and I had automatic updates off. So....apparently the TV grabbed it in the background and it was in some sort of "cache" and when I tried to point the update at my USB stick the TV said "nahhh......we'll just install this newer one here!".


So.....I'm on firmware 1180 and notice some odd behaviors now. When I power on the TV and my cable box is off, There is a long delay with a blank screen. I have to wait for a little menu to pop up saying "no signal on HDMI 1. Select source or hit power on to turn on device". It is something to this effect. I then have to select source and then I can choose the inputs like normal. This takes about 10-15 seconds total but before I could select the source within the first 2-3 seconds. It's almost as if the TV is trying to do something in the background and it is locking up and not allowing remote inputs. I literally have to wait for the TV to essentially "time out" before I can choose input or open anything. Is anyone else seeing this?


Also....it seems like the Smart LED feature is more obvious now. When the screen is dark and I hit the volume up/down the whole left side of the screen brightens behind the small volume icons. I know it's edgelit so this can happen but I don't remember this being so prominent before. It's not a huge deal but I was watching an HDR movie on Netflix with hard coded subtitles and the whole center of the screen would lighten up when titles appeared and then darken when they disappeared. It was terribly distracting. I never noticed this before. Is this normal??


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I have noticed that even with Eco mode off (no automatic dimming) my KS8000 still auto dims in certain situations/scenes. Is this intentional and if so why? I notice this pretty clearly when watching Planet Earth II in HDR, toward the beginning of the DESERTS episode when the lion is walking the dunes. Could I be seeing the effect of static metadata mapping used in HDR10?
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Roughly:
DVD : £10 / us$13
Blu-ray: £13 / us$16.88

Both the above are fully loaded with extras which I expect and want from this brilliant format: commentaries, behind the scenes, making ofs, etc. That is very important to me indeed.

4k Blu-ray+ Blu-ray double pack: £25-£30 / us$32.50-us$39.

Hence, more than double the cost of the Blu-ray, hence imho "ridiculous"

The 4k disc is BARE BONES. There is no option to buy what I want: a fully loaded 4k disc on its own. it's being sold as a bolt-on extra to the normal Blu-ray with the expectation that you watch all the extras on that.

In the early days of Blu-ray when dvd and Blu-ray double packs were common, they didn't cost more than double, and the Blu-ray discs weren't bare bones!

Early adopters in the UK are always massively ripped off, this is not new sadly.
Yikes.

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In the US, new UHD BD/BD packs are typically $22-$30, although their list prices can be much higher.

The only place I have seen UHD discs that are are not bundled with BDs is the dreaded Walmart. They sell some multi-disc sets (of older film series) at attractive prices. I eagerly await the arrival of UHD discs in the bargain bins.
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It seems that Youtube app has become more unstable with latest FW update.. I know it is just a wrapper to TV-web version but still fast forward and rewind sometimes seems to choke whole app and sometimes make it very unresponsive.. and whole ff/rewind functionality is bad user experience with remote, better than nothing but quite awkward.

Another minor annoyance with this KS series is that it is using dynamic backlight (smartled/dynamic contrast??) even when it is set to "off". (on top of that backlight flashing bug when Smartled is set to "off")
YouTube has been a pain for me through last two updates. It plays once, then next access it freezes so I need to do a force close. Rinse and repeat. I need to get round to re installing to see if that helps!

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I have noticed that even with Eco mode off (no automatic dimming) my KS8000 still auto dims in certain situations/scenes. Is this intentional and if so why? I notice this pretty clearly when watching Planet Earth II in HDR, toward the beginning of the DESERTS episode when the lion is walking the dunes. Could I be seeing the effect of static metadata mapping used in HDR10?

Are you using the Movie preset? It happens to me whenever i'm watching HDR content with that preset. If i use Standard, it doesn't happen.
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Are you using the Movie preset? It happens to me whenever i'm watching HDR content with that preset. If i use Standard, it doesn't happen.
Yep.

I'm assuming it's something to do with how tone mapping works on this set.

You can trigger this for yourself if you own a PS4 pro and the wipeout omega collection. its main menus suffer from this while running the game with hdr.

It's the worst i have seen this tv act with this behavior, The brightness fluctuates like mad not knowing where to settle itself.
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Game Mode vs Movie Mode for gaming.

I have a KS8000. I just got a PS4 Pro. I have been playing Last Of Us. I played many hours of it with the TV in Game Mode. Today when I played, I did not switch it to Game Mode, so it was in Movie Mode. I played for about 2 hours, including through a long boss/end of section scene with many running targets, before I realized that I was in Movie Mode. I noticed no difference in game play at all and was able to hit fast moving targets.

Anyone play outside of Game Mode? Do you not notice the higher lag or do you notice no difference either?
It depends on the game for me. I find it more noticeable on faster paced games like Halo or Titanfall. Sometimes I can tell because I'll make a quick tap on the joystick and once I've stopped, THEN I see the picture move. But mostly I noticed that my scores are consistently lower. Putting Game Mode on remedies that. Other games tho, I've played in Movie Mode and not noticed at all.

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Add to this anything regarding "Firmware updates" and that will give you the perfect post in my opinion
I didn't want to put too many triggers in one post!

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Are you like me and the moment you get home you run to your TV and check if you won the 1201 lottery
Nope. I eventually got around to updating to 1168, and haven't checked since. I don't have any issue with the TV as it is, and the picture quality is the same as it's always been so there hasn't been a need. Now, if Game Mode gets a separate profile added for HDR I'll be spamming the Refresh button!

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If you read the post you would see that the stated CR for AUO panels can be found at Panelook which is an exchange that sells panels from manufactures from all over the world. If you actually looked at prior threads of older Samsung models you would see that there are members who have the equipment to actually measure these numbers and posted their results. I have a Samsung UN65H6350 from 2014 that has a AUO panel and the picture quality is good. My best friend also has a UN75H6350 and a few years ago I brought my set over to his house and fed both sets the same feeds synced up so we could compare the sets. We also had a few of our friends come over just to get more feedback. Everyone agreed that my friends UN75H6350 with the Samsung panel looked better. Blacks were better along with contrast. His set had some clouding and some bleeding on one of the lower corners. My set has none of these issues so you can certainly pick your poison. Also I never said anyone was offensive just petty with this type of talk. I do think the original poster has a point. If you bought a car that had 130hps and you found out someone else bought the same model car but his had 200hps, you might be a little upset. Unfortunately none of the professional reviewers are looking at both panels. Until then we can argue this point forever.
We aren't talking about the UN75H6350 tho. We aren't talking about older Samsung models either. We are talking about the Samsung KS line - and specifically this TV, no others. No one is disagreeing that in other manufacturers TVs, or that in older Samsung TVs, that panels didn't make a difference. This is well known. You posted an anecdotal story about how you and your buddies preferred one panel over another - on a different TV. But again, we aren't discussing those TV's. You say that Panelook has some CR #'s for AUO panels but all panels are different. Do you have the numbers for the one used in the KS TV? To use your car anology, just because the Ford Fiesta has 120 hp doesn't mean ALL Fords do. There would be a lot of upset Mustang drivers out there if that were so! There have been other posts where people have had both panels side by side in their house at the same time, and while individual differences were noted (one maybe had more blooming or backlight bleed or back panel separation) no "huge difference" in picture quality was ever noted. Many users have also had their TV's calibrated and no drastic differences have been reported between panels. In a year and a half. As has been noted before, it's always fun to play detective and try to learn something new. It's also good to be aware of as much as possible so as to make a proper informed purchasing decision (which is becoming less and less relevant as supply dwindles out). Speculation without proof doesn't outweigh a year and a half's worth of experience tho. I stand by my previous comment: no matter what panel you have, enjoy your TV since you have a great TV.
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Can anyone mirror their PCs ou Android phones to the TV when both devices are connected to a 802.11ac 5GHz wireless network?
If i set the wireless connection on the TV to the 802.11n (2.4GHz wireless channel, screen mirroring works without a hitch. As soon as i connect the TV to the 5Ghz channel (802.11ac), screen mirroring doesn't work anymore.
I recently bought a new router to take advantage of the increased speed ac provides, so i don't know if the TV always behaved like this.
I'm on the newest 1201.6 firmware.


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Yep.

I'm assuming it's something to do with how tone mapping works on this set.

You can trigger this for yourself if you own a PS4 pro and the wipeout omega collection. its main menus suffer from this while running the game with hdr.

It's the worst i have seen this tv act with this behavior, The brightness fluctuates like mad not knowing where to settle itself.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...ing-issue.html
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My last update was 1169. It has terrible judder (jittery motion in slow camera pans - i.e. not smooth) almost all the time on Netflix movies and TV shows. (Prior updates had no noticeable judder) Has anyone that has updated specifically from 1169 to 1180 noticed a big improvement in lack of judder?
I have no proof beyond what I feel but I think it has improved with 1180. Before I could not bear Judder 0 but now I can.
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